Clinton calls for U.S. ‘intelligence surge’ in wake of Orlando attack

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-clinton-surveillance-idUSKCN0YZ2I2

This bothers me because didn't the FBI already interview this guy multiple times, have a gun sold to him through a loophole etc? I feel like the existing system failed multiple times, and it feels wrong to expand internet surveillance. It's obviously a tricky issue, so I'm curious what you guys here think.

[valerief]

1. Not gun fuckin' control?

Same old same old.

[leftofcool]

11. She's already called for that.

[NWCorona]

2. All the intelligence in the world doesn't do any good if you don't act on it.

[JonLeibowitz]

3. "You're gonna hear all of the usual complaints, you know, freedom of speech, etc."

--Hillary Clinton



I am not surprised.

[catnhatnh]

16. For someone who disses the 5th amendment

she sure has a bunch of aides who embrace it...

[JonLeibowitz]

17. Freedom of speech is the 1st amendment ... ;-)

[catnhatnh]

19. And due process is the 5th

That's the one that states it would be unconstitutional to deny someone the rights guaranteed to citizens without a trial.

[MineralMan]

4. There's no sure solution to either problem.

We have a population over 315 million in the US. Unless a person meets specific criteria that prohibit it, that person can buy an AR-15 type semi-auto rifle at any time in many states. The problem is not in surveillance, it is in our system that requires proof of reasons not to allow the purchase. The burden of proving that falls on the government, which is inadequate in providing that proof.

It is simply too easy to buy quasi-military grade firearms. We need a different way to control those purchases that doesn't depend on negative information in federal databases. That is clearly not adequate, as we've seen from the recent mass shootings.

Different states have different rules regarding things like waiting periods and models of semi-auto military-style firearms. The federal database is dependent on state reporting of criteria, as well.

The entire regulatory system for purchasing such weapons needs to be re-designed and made uniform. Any action toward that, however, is heavily lobbied against by the NRA and other lobbying groups. There's no simple solution.

[SpareribSP]

8. Absolutely agree n/t

[Downwinder]

5. Knee jerk reaction. Get used to it.

[bunnies]

6. Looks like Big Brothers about to get a whole lot bigger.

Swell.

[PoliticAverse]

7. "she wants technology companies to be more cooperative ... intercepting communications."

she said she wants technology companies to be more cooperative to government requests for help in countering online propaganda, tracking patterns in social media and intercepting communications.

[merrily]

9. STOP IT. Neither this guy nor the Tsarnaevs require more spying.

[ucrdem]

10. Sounds like they had the right intel but were focusing on the wrong things.

Way wrong.

[HumanityExperiment]

12. AKA.. increasing scope of Patriot Act...

HRC is using verbiage that signal expansion of Patriot Act

Why are DEMs here on DU not speaking to that issue of DEM presumptive nominee?

[Wilms]

13. How about a "czar" to go with that "surge".

And the average American buys this stuff.

[LoverOfLiberty]

14. I'm sure no on on here will like it

but online privacy is a thing of the past.

[m-lekktor]

15. Here we go. smh. nt

[Lazy Daisy]

18. Of course she does.

And because she's a Democrat we'll all happily get in line, applaud and hand over our rights.

This is only the beginning

[DCBob]

20. No doubt that is where this is heading.

There is strong bipartisan for this. I suspect all the changes that were made due to the Snowden leaks will now be rolled back and then some.

[GreatGazoo]

21. how about just background checks?

why can't we start there.

Pretty much everyone on earth hates someone else on earth so are they going to compile a huge database of THAT and then do what exactly?

The 911 hijackers were all on watch lists. Lee Harvey Oswald was under surveillance. Didn't stop anything.

And notice they only call it "terrorism" when they have some more war or surveillance to sell you.