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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:48 PM Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders should ask Clinton to more clearly oppose the TPP.

She's already said she's against the TPP, and so there wouldn't be a problem with contradicting herself (any more than she already has on this issue.)

If Clinton opposes the TPP more clearly, it will give Sanders an argument to make to his supporters for why to support her. It would also stop Donald Trump from getting to her left on the issue of Trade.

The TPP includes Investor State Dispute Settlement (courts which can be used by corporations to hurt the environment, but which can't be used by environmentalists to protect the environment.)

Clinton hints that she's against ISDS in her book, "Hard Choices."
http://new.www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/30/hillary-clinton-trans-pacific-partnership_n_7173108.html

She should say that she'll oppose any trade deal with ISDS.

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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
3. Congress will probably pass TPP in the lame duck session amid silence from HRC.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jun 2016

But maybe Sanders can get her to speak out and stop it from passing.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
10. BS cheerleaders sound a lot like Republicans ...
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jun 2016

Build up a strawman to tear down ... and if Secretary Clinton states she is on the same side of the position they are, they say she is lying. It's a win/win for them, they get to oppose Secretary Clinton no matter what reality is, because they've built their own little reality and echo chamber.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
7. Hillary could ask all her endorser SD elected officials to vote against in the lame duck
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jun 2016

She may be a public citizen, but she does have pull here. I'd like to see them all sign a pledge to vote against especially/at least ISDS BEFORE the GE.

Autumn

(45,042 posts)
8. Why? Saying you are against something means diddly squat.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jun 2016

She promoted it world wide. She hinted she's against it. It's like a fucking merry go round. What if she just comes out and says she'll fix it later? That would do just as good as coming out and saying she'll oppose any trade deal with ISDS.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
11. OP Title: Hillary Clinton Agrees With Elizabeth Warren On Trade Dispute With Obama
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jun 2016
Hillary Clinton is opposed to a critical piece of the Obama administration’s Trans-Pacific Partnership, which would give corporations the right to sue sovereign nations over laws or regulations that could potentially curb their profits.

The policy position is contained in her book Hard Choices, and was confirmed to HuffPost by a spokesperson for her presidential campaign. Obama and congressional Democrats are locked in a bitter public feud over TPP — a deal between 12 Pacific nations — with much of the controversy derived from concerns it will undermine regulatory standards.

The Australian case that Clinton referenced in her book, however, is instructive. The Australian government enacted legislation that would require tobacco products be sold only with plain, simple packaging that includes health warnings — labeling the tobacco companies objected to. Philip Morris Asia is suing Australia under a different free trade pact, using a similar ISDS provision, arguing that the Australian law is cutting into its profit. It’s easy to see how laws in, say, New York City, would be similarly targeted.

Of course, Big Tobacco and its republican congressmen are opposing TPP precisely because it excludes tobacco from the ISDS process. What happened in Australia cannot happen under TPP but will continue under existing agreements.
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