2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDoes Hillary need to pivot *left* after the primaries?
The conventional wisdom is that candidates pivot to the center after primaries, but I wonder in this case if the opposite is true. It seems highly unlikely that Hillary will be able to recruit many Republican votes, and she's had the conservative Democrat vote locked up solid since before she even announced.
Sanders has demonstrated that there's a huge swath of voters to recruit from her political left, and all the 'Bernie or Bust' talk makes me think she can't take their votes for granted.
So would Hillary Clinton be better off bucking tradition and pivoting left after the primaries?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)immediately after Bernie concedes. She represents those who think more conservative in nature. Things like TPP, XL Keystone pipeline, lowering the minimum wage back to 10-12 dollars an hour are representative of her big donors. None of these shifts will surprise me.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)I'm not sure why that would be unlikely at all. There's a significant anti-Trump contingent, many of whom are already talking about voting for her over Trump. Susan Collins, for one. If a sitting GOP Senator is openly contemplating it, then it would seem likely that there will be plenty of crossover votes.
"Bernie or Bust" is a small fraction of the total. 70% of his supporters are already on board. That number will increase when he concedes and endorses Clinton, and it'll go up further as the rest have some time to contemplate the idea of President Donald Trump. Some of the holdouts wouldn't have voted for her, regardless of what she does between now and November.
Marr
(20,317 posts)I don't know how the Republican vote will break down with Trump, but I never thought he'd last through half the primary, either.
It seems to me like Hillary is absolutely despised on the right, generally-- and not in a policy-based, logical way. She's one of their perennial villains. Not to their elite, of course, but they're increasingly insignificant. When I hear Republicans talk about Hillary, it's like they're talking about Hitler, seriously. It's an unhinged, irrational hatred. I think the vast majority of Republicans would vote for Satan himself if he was running against Hillary.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)There are a lot of reasonable people out there that vote and don't make a big deal out of it. I think there are a lot of right-leaning and moderate independents and a lot of moderate Republicans who simply won't vote for Trump, because they believe, like the rest of us, that he's abhorrent. They'll either stay home or vote for Hillary.
As for shifting, there's little reason for Hillary to do so. She won the nomination pretty convincingly and then essentially kicked off her general election campaign at Planned Parenthood. That's a pretty direct shot at the GOP and a likely sign of how she plans to proceed.
George Eliot
(701 posts)Is that asking for too much?
randome
(34,845 posts)Part of the problem, imo, is that we have too many representatives, all of them jockeying for position.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)she has a great platform. stay the course.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)HRC was pulled left during this primary by Bernie, held there throughout... her history is and always will be republican light in policy
she's angling back to right, just listen to her recent speeches.... using verbiage of a war hawk as one example
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)There are huge swathes of moderate Republican voters who can't stand Trump and whose votes are there for the taking. I think Hillary using the phrase "Islamic extremism", taking this issue away from Trump, presages her strategy on this front.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Whatever that may be. I just wish she would figure it out.
I really don't know what she believes in; it seems to change daily.