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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:03 PM Jun 2016

Elizabeth Warren Draws Fire from Left and Right Over Clinton Endorsement

Senator Warren has built her career on criticisms of Wall Street’s money spigot, which she correctly says is corrupting government, perpetuating the growing divide between the super rich and the other 99 percent, while perverting so many members of Congress that meaningful Wall Street reform like restoring the Glass-Steagall Act hangs in limbo. And yet, despite years of pounding the table on these issues, last Thursday Senator Warren went on the Rachel Maddow show on MSNBC and spiritedly endorsed Hillary Clinton for President – an establishment politician with a criminal FBI investigation hanging over her head for violating State Department policy in the handling of her emails on a private server in her home while Secretary of State. Clinton is also the only Presidential candidate to have personally accepted millions of dollars from Wall Street for giving speeches and who is now refusing to release the transcripts of what she told Wall Street in exchange for those hefty fees.

Warren is clearly missing the big picture here. The Democratic base is fed up with conflating empty talk that goes nowhere with progress. Student loan debt, fueled by the same greedy Wall Street banks, is now $1.2 trillion. It’s crushing the lives of young people, creating student prostitutes at NYU, while lining the pockets of the serial criminals on Wall Street that the Obama administration refuses to put in jail.

As Warren correctly pointed out in a previous Senate hearing, Wall Street received $13 trillion in cumulative loans as a secret bailout through the Federal Reserve. Much of that money was loaned at below 1 percent interest. Struggling students, the future of America, are still paying four to six times that amount after all the talk in Washington.

Increasingly, the progressive base in America has lost confidence in its leaders in Washington. The Warren endorsement of Clinton adds mightily to the cynicism. A Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted June 7-10 showed that 44 percent of Democrats nationwide would like Senator Bernie Sanders to make an independent run for the White House. A mere 3 percent more, or 47 percent, said he should not.

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/06/elizabeth-warren-draws-fire-from-left-and-right-over-clinton-endorsement/

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Elizabeth Warren Draws Fire from Left and Right Over Clinton Endorsement (Original Post) Skwmom Jun 2016 OP
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #1
... Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #2
ROFL! tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #32
+1000 AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #47
She has a powerfully unique quality PJMcK Jun 2016 #3
As long as she remains fearless and independent.... Armstead Jun 2016 #7
She has been kinda quiet for a week though yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #12
Interesting point, yeoman6987 PJMcK Jun 2016 #16
This week she spoke at the New American Open Markets project, did an appearance LanternWaste Jun 2016 #50
Fearless? I don't think fearless is the word to describe someone who waited on the sidelines to Skwmom Jun 2016 #15
Respectfully, I don't understand PJMcK Jun 2016 #17
If she were really brave, she would have gone with Bernie CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #20
Virtually none of his colleagues endorsed Sanders, Hortensis Jun 2016 #24
I agree with you CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #35
Oh, sorry! Having to explain that one is Hortensis Jun 2016 #39
Thank you (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #26
It has to do with this Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #30
Thank you for the clip (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #34
You bet Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #38
I support Hillary Clinton strongly zenabby Jun 2016 #46
+1000. Go along to get along is nothing to aspire to in this case. JudyM Jun 2016 #55
Funny how that Reuters/Ipsos poll can't be located to verify the article. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #4
Do you mean this poll? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #8
Nope, because that's the article, with no link to the actual data. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #10
So you are calling the Reuters site incorrect? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #11
I'm calling the site incorrect because they didn't post data to back up a claim they made. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #27
Trump is the enemy Renew Deal Jun 2016 #5
Exactly and times 1000 (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #29
Clinton and Warren share the same goals. Tal Vez Jun 2016 #6
LMAO at all the whiny losers hating on Elizabeth Warren nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #9
seems Elizabeth has been very quiet since her private meeting with Hillary Friday morning azurnoir Jun 2016 #13
Jury results edbermac Jun 2016 #14
How did you get Jury results for this OP? stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #52
It was before the switchover. edbermac Jun 2016 #53
thanks. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #54
It's going to be fun when Bernie endorses Hillary (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #18
I lost all respect for her. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #19
It was bad when she endorsed Hill but... peace13 Jun 2016 #36
Not from this lefty. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #21
The wheels on the bus go round and round. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #22
It's not because she endorsed Clinton. It's because she endorsed a candidate that represents jillan Jun 2016 #23
Exactly! Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #41
did you miss when she encouraged hillary to run a few years ago? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #49
Honestly, those who have issues with Hillary being the nominee, get over it, she's the nominee still_one Jun 2016 #25
Only the Turd Way view has counted for decades, what you are seeing is a little pushback. TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #28
name calling is such a classy way to respond. I have no doubt you have already catorgized me still_one Jun 2016 #37
I called someone a name? Sounds like a fabrication. TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #44
Which direction are you firing from? Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #31
In the End, NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #33
.+1 840high Jun 2016 #40
Very fitting shanti Jun 2016 #42
Really? She can't even endorse the party nominee without backlash? nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #43
Isn't that crazy???!?!?!!! AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #48
. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #45
The Democratic base voted for Hillary. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #51

Response to Skwmom (Original post)

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
32. ROFL!
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jun 2016

This picture is classic. We should all brace ourselves as A LOT of people are going to get thrown under the bus as they come out with their support of Hillary.

I, for one, am pretty damn shocked at how bad Warren has been thrown under the bus around here. She was everyone's messiah until she wasn't. I respected the fact that she stayed out of the primaries for the reason she did.

PJMcK

(22,025 posts)
3. She has a powerfully unique quality
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jun 2016

She's fearless.

I can't wait to see her accomplish more great things for advancing our country. She'll have my support.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
7. As long as she remains fearless and independent....
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jun 2016

and doesn't succumb to the DC elite syndrome

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
12. She has been kinda quiet for a week though
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jun 2016

I thought that was a bit strange. I hope she appears again soon. I like her speeches.

PJMcK

(22,025 posts)
16. Interesting point, yeoman6987
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jun 2016

Isn't it refreshing that a politician doesn't feel the need to be the lede every day?

There's another strategy in force, I think. There's slightly less than five months until the election. That's a long time and makes the campaign a marathon. You can't do too much too soon or you'll expend too much energy too early. If the attacks on Mr. Trump are strategically spread out from many different angles, it will unbalance any responses. Of course, Mr. Trump is already unbalanced!

I suspect that Secretary Clinton's team is proactively coordinating public statements with their allies. She is an extremely savvy politician.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
50. This week she spoke at the New American Open Markets project, did an appearance
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:54 AM
Jun 2016

This week she spoke at the New American Open Markets project, did an appearance on the View, and delivered a speech in Washington criticizing tech companies using economies of scale to reduce competition.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
15. Fearless? I don't think fearless is the word to describe someone who waited on the sidelines to
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:25 PM
Jun 2016

endorse the candidate who represents everything she claims to be against.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Virtually none of his colleagues endorsed Sanders,
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:53 PM
Jun 2016

Corky.

That includes people who share his views and been working for and fighting to protect progressive government action for decades. They apparently just don't think he has the right stuff to work from the White House, and obviously she does not because her endorsement might well have made all the difference.

Passion is not competence. Claiming he himself is the only one and everyone else is corrupt is incompetence. But let's hope he has managed to make them wonder if they should raise their own bars in the process of insulting and denying their commitment.

"You have to bring people together who may not agree on every issue," he said, "but who understand that the middle class is collapsing and we are moving toward an oligarchic form of society, where the billionaires will control the economy and the political life of this country." Bernie Sanders
 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
38. You bet
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jun 2016

I'm not here to do "hit" jobs or be a disruptor. I've been on this site since January on 2004 and in all my years I've never seen such blind allegiance to what I perceive to be a flawed candidate.

zenabby

(364 posts)
46. I support Hillary Clinton strongly
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 10:06 PM
Jun 2016

but this is an amazing clip! Makes me stop and think..

What does it say that Hillary Clinton saw the op ed and asked Elizabeth Warren to meet with her privately and learn about the bill? She was the first lady. She didn't have to do that. It shows she is intelligent, curious, does her home work and cares to understand the details. That's more than you can say for many others.

What does it say that she went back to White House and made Bill veto the bill? It shows that she follows through, she is not all words, but actions.

What does it say that she voted for the bankruptcy bill when she was a senator? Does it show that she is a politician faced with the same pressures as most politicians and she is willing to play the game?

I was not happy about the last part. So, I did some research. This is what Hillary Clinton told in response.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/07/clinton_accuses_sanders_and_warren_of_smear_campaign.html

So she voted for it in 2001 but was against it in 2005. If she were in big bank's pockets, why did she vote against it in 2005?

I am under no illusion that she is a flaw less candidate. I just don't believe such a viable candidate exists. When Obama talked about rising the seas and so on, I rolled my eyes. All politicians are ambitious, and have to handle the multiple commitments and pressures that their job entails and still get the job done. I believe Hillary will get the job done.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
4. Funny how that Reuters/Ipsos poll can't be located to verify the article.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jun 2016

Almost like it's nothing but made-up bullshit.....

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
10. Nope, because that's the article, with no link to the actual data.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jun 2016

There's nothing to prove what the article says.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
27. I'm calling the site incorrect because they didn't post data to back up a claim they made.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jun 2016

Real polling data displays the questions asked, and the breakdown of responses. This article doesn't, nor does it link to anywhere that the data can be viewed separately.

Like I said before, it's nothing but bullshit at this point, another media attempt to keep the "horse race" alive even after Bernie had his ass handed to him by Secretary Clinton in the primary.

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
6. Clinton and Warren share the same goals.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jun 2016

If Sanders had won the nomination, Warren would have endorsed him, too. Sanders will endorse Clinton, too.

The "big differences" are mostly just differences in strategies.

edbermac

(15,937 posts)
14. Jury results
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jun 2016

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Elizabeth Warren Draws Fire from Left and Right Over Clinton Endorsement
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peace13

(11,076 posts)
36. It was bad when she endorsed Hill but...
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jun 2016

....when she was goading Trump, Who I feel is beneath her concern, that iced it.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
23. It's not because she endorsed Clinton. It's because she endorsed a candidate that represents
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:49 PM
Jun 2016

everything she has been fighting against since her tenure in DC.

It makes Bernie supporters, like myself, wonder who is the real Elizabeth Warren?

It sent a very confusing message. Elizabeth has gone after Hillary on several occasions.

This one is a head scratcher.

Pastiche423

(15,406 posts)
41. Exactly!
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:58 PM
Jun 2016

It makes not a lick of sense to me.

Was Elizabeth lying the whole time she was screaming about Wall Street?

It sure seems that way now.

I am incredibly disappointed in her.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
49. did you miss when she encouraged hillary to run a few years ago?
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 11:38 PM
Jun 2016

why would she encourage HRC if she didn't want HRC as the nominee?

still_one

(92,116 posts)
25. Honestly, those who have issues with Hillary being the nominee, get over it, she's the nominee
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:08 PM
Jun 2016

This pattern by some of trashing any person or group that has endorsed Hillary reflects an intolerance and arrogance that only THEIR view counts

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
33. In the End,
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jun 2016

we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. ~ Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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