2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhite Male Privilege 101.
Do you think there's any important difference between President Donald and President Hillary that might affect you?
Thanks. That's all we need to know.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)White Male Privilege?
Certainly not Trump...but Hillary, being a woman and all???
That's all 'we' need to know...being a white male?
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I know many women. I am married to one and have a 14-year-old daughter.
I have Muslim friends. Many are here on work or study Visas. Will they be allowed to stay?
I know people who have insurance for the first time because of the ACA.
Lastly, I give a shit about people and yeah, this country.
Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)Here's a letter sent to the Atlantic from a Bernie supporter now tempted to vote for Trump. More at link
http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/05/why-one-bernie-sanders-supporter-is-tempted-to-vote-donald-trump/484841/
I do think a sort of white tribalization has something to do with it,
though it isnt all tribalization; class appeals are part of it as
well. I can remember the first time I was spat on in an activist
meeting, sometime after Occupy. I hadnt said much of anything, but I have always been an independent thinker and follow my own analysis, something of an idiosyncratic Marxism typically, and it was just for being white and male and not agreeing with whatever the speaker had said. I was privileged.
I didnt make too much of it at the time, as there are always some unpleasant people you end up dealing with while doing activism, but I started noticing more and more of this over the next few years. I was not the only one. Most of my old circle of activist contacts dropped out one by one. Then I dropped out, quit Facebook and social media. It felt like such a relief; things had become so toxic.
Since then, I have been extensively re-evaluating my politics, and I
know there are many others doing the same thing. A left which is
focused on issues of identity and excludes issues of class (it was class issues which drew me to the left years ago) is no friend of mine, and it is no friend of the working class. And if it is all going to be tribal politics, then well, I guess you have to go with your own tribeif not for your sake, then for the sake of your kids.
Trump as a person seems despicable. But he also seems strong. And he
listens to the popular will. He is against many things that I, as a
leftist, have protested over the years, such as NATO, international
trade agreements, and foreign wars. I feel like the corporate
globalization of the 25+ years has just ripped a hole through this
country, especially in the Midwest where I am from. Clinton will just
continue this and Trump seems like someone who wants it to stop.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Go for it. Seriously. It will help.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)karynnj
(59,498 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)ram2008
(1,238 posts)And can we stop dividing people/ trying to make them feel like their opinion is less because of their background or race. Thanks.
Signed,
A Latino.
6chars
(3,967 posts)Q: "Do you think there's any important difference between President Donald and President Hillary that might affect you?"
A: "No"
Conclusion: Privileged
Q: "Do you think there's any important difference between President Donald and President Hillary that might affect you?"
A: "Yes, my taxes will go down under Trump and up under Hillary"
Conclusion: Not privileged.
One Black Sheep
(458 posts)white male, or not.