Just heard something interesting about CA votes

[pdsimdars]

Last edited Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Both Bernie and Hillary got 3+ million votes. . . there are still 2+ million votes that haven't been counted. There are 43% of the votes that have yet to be counted.
That is interesting.

Yes, that was from 6 days ago. But it is interesting that they called the election that day, when well over 40% of the votes weren't even counted.

[LoverOfLiberty]

1. It would have been sort of interesting last week

but most of the rest of us have moved on.

[onehandle]

2. You heard that, huh?

It's interesting that you heard that.

I hear things too.

[bhikkhu]

3. The California secretary of state updates the official vote count here:

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/

You don't have to rely on what you "hear" somewhere or other. Currently its 2.4 million Clinton, 1.9 million Sanders, still a ten point spread.

[onenote]

6. And the number of unprocessed ballots is down to below 1.4 million

http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/statewide-elections/2016-primary/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf

Which means that after post-election night processing of over a million ballots (of the original 2.5 million that were not processed), Sanders has not made a significant dent in Clinton's lead. Given that a considerable number (possibly as high as 40 percent) of the 1.339 unprocessed ballots will not be ballots cast for either Sanders or Clinton (because they are cast in one of the other presidential primaries or are NPP ballots), the hill that Sanders would have to climb to overtake Clinton gets steeper and steeper and is almost certainly insurmountable.

[onenote]

4. Since what you heard is inconsistent with the reported facts

Why don't you tell something more about your source so we can decide if this is just more bullshit.

[pdsimdars]

5. Just saw it again. . . . 2.4 million votes remain uncounted.

Here's a good quote
"According to The Washington Times, there were approximately 2.6 million ballots still uncounted as of Thursday, June 9. California’s Secretary of State, Alex Padilla, said that six million ballots had already been counted, and the remaining uncounted ballots could increase the total voter turnout to approximately 8.6 million. If all the ballots are certified, that will result in a 48 percent voter turnout."

Google is a good way to look things up. Try it.

[onenote]

7. Link? Because this is the official number of unprocessed ballots as of last night:

http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/statewide-elections/2016-primary/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf

[MineralMan]

8. Go to the CA Secretary's site at the links above.

Your source is incorrect. Please check your sources before posting. Thanks.

ETA: When you post such things, please include a link, so we can visit your source. For any state's election results, the best source is the official one.

[MineralMan]

10. The CA Secretary of State's site has numbers from yesterday,

not June 9. Please keep yourself updated. Google is useful, but you do have to watch the sources you visit, check dates, and all that sort of thing.

[Demsrule86]

12. I see why you would not post it...for Inquisitor and is seven days old.

It is from last week folks...how disingenuous.


http://www.inquisitr.com/3189262/california-primary-you-wont-believe-how-many-votes-still-not-counted-numerous-other-votes-actually-missing/

[FSogol]

16. Here's how you can tell when someone is trying to play you: "According to The Washington Times..."

[BlueCaliDem]

21. Washington Times = RW Rag. Everybody knows that - as I'm certain, so does the poster

who is touting it here on Democratic Underground.

[pdsimdars]

23. God you guys are paranoid. I happened to see it in a youtube video and thought it

was very interesting. And it is. They called it when at least 43% of the votes weren't even counted. Maybe they have gotten more counted by now. But the fact remains, they CALLED the election BEFORE at least 43% of the votes weren't even counted. That is shocking.
I don't do that "kill the messenger" thing that a lot of people do. I agree that some "news" outlets really put a mind numbing spin on things but usually they report facts as facts. I use my intellect on that, not just the knee jerk emotions.

[FSogol]

24. Paranoid? That was a propaganda outlet created to help the GOP.

Google Rev Sun Myung Moon sometime.



The gullibility on display here sometimes is incredible.

x ?

[brooklynite]

25. I find cat videos on YouTube interesting...

....I don't look to them for news.

[TwilightZone]

34. That...

is one of my favorite posts in a long time.

[Lord Magus]

27. No it certainly is not "shocking."

When an election isn't close there's no need to wait until every vote is counted before projecting a winner. A projection is not binding, so if there's a huge unexpected swing in the other direction the media outlets' projections can easily be withdrawn.

[onenote]

18. That was accurate a 8 days ago, but not today.

And it doesn't support your claim that Sanders and Clinton each got 3 million votes.

I can't decide whether you are being intentionally disingenuous or simply are clueless about the California primary. Either way, you don't end up looking so good.

[pdsimdars]

22. Probably it is old info. Sometimes on youtube they list stuff as today but the

actual date it was made was a while back.
And no, they had a bit above 3 million combined, with a couple million uncounted.

[Stallion]

9. Clinton Leads by 467,130-More than She Did on Election Nite

it was about 475,000 vote lead last weekend

[SFnomad]

11. There are about 23% of the votes left to be counted ....

Unprocessed:
http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/statewide-elections/2016-primary/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf

Current Results:
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/

Unprocessed: 1339438
Clinton: 2433870
Sanders: 1966740

And we're still at about 55% Clinton, 44% Sanders

[onenote]

14. Actually, there are around 15 percent of the ballots left to be counted

The total number of ballots is 8,728,172 -- the sum of the ballots processed thus far (7,388,734) and the unprocessed ballots(1,339,438)

Sources: ballots processed: http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/status/
ballots unprocessed: http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/statewide-elections/2016-primary/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf

The unprocessed ballots are around 15.3 percent of the total number of ballots.

Moreover, a significant percentage of the unprocessed ballots will not have been cast in the Democratic primary for Sanders or Clinton. They will have been cast in one of five other presidential primaries (republican, Green, Libertarian, AIP, Peace and Freedom) or by NPP voters who did not request a party ballot.

[SFnomad]

19. Good catch ... you're right ... I must be on Friday Happy Hour time already n/t

[Adrahil]

13. Clinton killed it on early vote, and SLIGHTLY leads on votes counted since then....

The margin will close, but even now he actual vote count margin has increased slightly, and the percentage margin is over 10%. Let it go, he's not going to win....

[eastwestdem]

15. Sources are always a good thing. nt

[zappaman]

17. I heard something interesting about the weather.

Supposed to be hot today.

[CorkySt.Clair]

20. I heard Bernie was going to lose with dignity.

We hear a lot of things, don't we?

[LiberalFighter]

26. Your information is wrong.

There are 1,339,438 votes still remaining to process.
Of those, 603,687 are vote-by-mail, and 691,051 provisionals. An additional 44,700 are damaged or otherwise not machine readable and have to be remade.

Current results are Clinton: 2,433,870 and Sanders: 1,966,740.

Both are current as of June 17th. More recent then the June 9th info.

4,441,241 ballots have been counted for Democratic candidates.
2,011,045 ballots have been counted for Republican candidates.

Not including other political parties there have been 6,452,286 ballots counted.

Elections were being held for more than just the Democratic Party.

[NCTraveler]

28. The best part about the Sanders campaign is that he brought new people into the process.

The worst part is that he brought new people into the process. It takes a lot of time for them to understand how it all works. I hope you have read all of the excellent and educational replies.

[RogueTrooper]

29. Top Flogging OP

[msongs]

30. hillary cheated bernie won by 2 million votes fraud made him lose. there, feel better now? nt

[MisterP]

31. you can check on the SoS site if you've been counted yet

our 3 Sanders votes are still in a box

[anigbrowl]

32. Because this sort of thing happens every electoral cycle in CA

We're used to it taking a long time to get a final count of all the ballots because we have a paper-trail oriented system and also because CA ballots are so fucking long. It is perfectly reasonable to make the call on the results on election night or the next day except in very close races, because statistically the partial result is an ideal sample and so error factors are easily quantifiable. And in the end when all the ballots are counted, the results closely track the original projections.

I am sure it is interesting to you if you are unfamiliar with because you are not a California resident or only recently became one, but we are quite used to it. however, it bums me that you don't seem to understand how the outcome can be predicted quite accurately before all the voters are counted. Do they not teach basic statistics in American high schools any more?

[Retrograde]

33. Down to 1.3M as of this morning

Of course, the individual counties have until July 8 to certify their results and submit them to the Secretary of State, and some of them aren't as good about updating their counts as others.

Over half the uncounted ballots are provisional ballots, and those are the ones that are going to require the most time to first verify that each vote is valid.

X million sounds like a lot, but remember that there are ~40 million people in California (10 million in Los Angeles county alone), and turnout for the primary was larger than the last statewide election n 2014. It always takes time to count all the votes - it's just that usually the national media don't care that much about California to give it much press.

And it happens in other states: Florida and Minnesota in 2000 come to mind.