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Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:49 PM Jun 2016

The my way or the highway of the pure ..Sanders blew it

Bernie Sanders did not win the Democratic nomination..but he had a hell of a chance to leave a legacy.. and instead.. like so many who insist on purity of thought.. my way or the highway.. no compromise need apply.. he blew it ..

But then you have to be a part of something to make change..not just hammer it from a distance..

I don't know.. maybe he will find his way to being a part of the party he tried to lead..but my guess is if it keeps going as such.. not much of a chance.


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The my way or the highway of the pure ..Sanders blew it (Original Post) Peacetrain Jun 2016 OP
I do get the impression MFM008 Jun 2016 #1
he didnt like it much for 73 years until he needed the $$ and resources from the dems to run for msongs Jun 2016 #3
Exactly!! nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #4
He had no other party to use. The GOP? Hortensis Jun 2016 #36
He gave the same stump speech he's given for a year. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #2
I used to have respect for Sanders NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #5
i agree. nt DesertFlower Jun 2016 #30
It isn't over yet. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #6
Bernie would not be a good poker player. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #8
so a good poker player cheats? "having an ace up one's sleeve" is generally considered cheating azurnoir Jun 2016 #11
He can't "win" no matter what he does. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #12
but you just indicated he didn't cheat so thank you azurnoir Jun 2016 #13
Uh, you're welcome? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #16
Unrelated, but... Scootaloo Jun 2016 #20
FYI, that is not a good pic of Hillary. nt Logical Jun 2016 #26
There's just no pleasing you guys, is there? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #31
Just pick a good one like this.... Logical Jun 2016 #32
Ah yes, another "Purity" sneer Scootaloo Jun 2016 #7
My disgust, at this point, with the lack of graciousness cali Jun 2016 #10
The newest meme seems to be --"Bernie who?, never heard of him." panader0 Jun 2016 #15
I remember that from 2nd grade Scootaloo Jun 2016 #18
LOL, it's too be expected, though. joshcryer Jun 2016 #24
I'm going to take Hillary's lead on this WhiteTara Jun 2016 #9
I'm sure you will n/t Scootaloo Jun 2016 #14
Thanks for your confidence! WhiteTara Jun 2016 #17
I think we all will on Monday. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #21
If it's over... 99Forever Jun 2016 #19
99, I can't speak for other Hillary supporters. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #22
Well then stop posting it Scootaloo Jun 2016 #23
No. We won we are happy we post what we want. Get use to it! upaloopa Jun 2016 #29
Perhaps... 99Forever Jun 2016 #33
Yea it's crazy ain't it. bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #28
He scares them. They 840high Jun 2016 #34
That's all you got, eh? NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #37
LOL, ok. nt Logical Jun 2016 #25
Laughing at him disgracfully in so many posts....I'm waiting to see who gets the last laugh. bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #27
It really is quite pitiful. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #35

msongs

(67,395 posts)
3. he didnt like it much for 73 years until he needed the $$ and resources from the dems to run for
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jun 2016

not-senator-from-vermont-anymore

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. He had no other party to use. The GOP?
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:05 AM
Jun 2016

Make a "symbolic" candidacy with the Green Party? I don't exactly blame him for using the Democratic Party and even for trying to take it over (he's always been something of an extremist--should we be surprised?!), though I do think poorly of him for being so self-deluded as to think he could.

The worst thing I know about Sanders, though, because I believe he does truly despise liberals and Democrats, seeing them as little better than conservatives, is that he kept an extremely cushy and well paid j in Congress by voting with the Democrats over 96% of the time on average for a quarter century. His voting record, with its long-term subjugation of principle to self interest, is almost completely unexamined. We certainly had better things to do than use it to reveal that he does not deserve his reputation for integrity.

The reputation he deserves is for being intractably committed to his narrow ideology. T

That said, I STILL feel we needed a message generally like his and that his candidacy has done far more good for the Democratic Party than bad. I wish people would not let his petty insults and threats distract from the important reality that we do need to substantially improve ourselves. He may be far too flawed to be able to contribute much more than criticism, but we also shouldn't dismiss his reminder of what are really just traditional liberal concerns that we really need to re-commit ourselves to.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
5. I used to have respect for Sanders
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jun 2016

When these campaigns started I always supported Hillary but I respected Sanders; I thought he had something to add to the process. Unfortunately all his legacy will be is the image of a wagging finger and a tired stump speech. The time has passed when he could have gracefully and graciously conceded and declared support for the Democratic nominee. Instead we're left with the odor of sour grapes.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
11. so a good poker player cheats? "having an ace up one's sleeve" is generally considered cheating
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jun 2016
NurseJackie
8. Bernie would not be a good poker player.
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He doesn't even have an ace-up-his-sleeve.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512199610#post8
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
20. Unrelated, but...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jun 2016

Isn't it a little strange to have braille text in a purely visual medium? I'll admit, I don't know if readers read braille like standard text (I guess they might?) but the idea seems a little strange overall.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. Ah yes, another "Purity" sneer
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jun 2016

Alright, you tainted goofballs, let's do this. You dislike purity so much, sure thing, let's talk compromise.

These are the people you will be compromising with:


Now. You need to come up with two lists.

1) A list of things you want out of Republicans like those pictured.
2) a list of who you are willing to sell out, screw over, and let the Republicans have their way with to achieve what's on list #1. Be sure to set priority; i.e., if you're willing to sell off gay rights before you're willing to toss out the right to choose, put it first.

There. Do that, and then you can say shit about "purity." Be honest about yourself and your plans.

I have no idea what you could hope to gain from wheeling and dealing with Republicans, but I know damn well what it'll cost - it probably won't cost YOU, of course, which I guess is the whole point...

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. My disgust, at this point, with the lack of graciousness
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jun 2016

the taunting and the ridiculous locks of ops that in no way break the rules.

Worst winners ever.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
15. The newest meme seems to be --"Bernie who?, never heard of him."
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jun 2016

"Who is this Bernie you speak of?" etc ad nauseum

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
24. LOL, it's too be expected, though.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:27 PM
Jun 2016

Four months of total garbage. I truly believed, naively, that we could have a good spirited debate on the issues, that we could support both candidates but prefer one over the other, that we could have mutual respect, etc.

What a joke.

WhiteTara

(29,703 posts)
9. I'm going to take Hillary's lead on this
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jun 2016

and move on to the general election. Bernie is the past. No more attention from me.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
21. I think we all will on Monday.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jun 2016

Time to unite and move on.

I hope that Bernie endorses Hillary and begins to work on the movement that he started before it loses all momentum as movements tend to do after the election.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
19. If it's over...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jun 2016

... why the hell are you Hillarians posting post after post after post after post bashing Senator Sanders and telling everyone "it's over?"

You don't sound too damn sure of yourselves.





kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
22. 99, I can't speak for other Hillary supporters.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jun 2016

But I'm feeling quite confident.

We're just tired of all the Bernie snark when it's time to move to the general.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
29. No. We won we are happy we post what we want. Get use to it!
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jun 2016

Months and months of your Hillary bashing leads us here.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
33. Perhaps...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:12 PM
Jun 2016

... telling 44% of voting Democrats to shut the fuck up and be brought to heel isn't the best way "to move to the general." Don't listen to what's important to us and OUR families. Do your little victory dance and pretend you've actually won something. (Like this is a gawddamn sporting event.)

But go ahead, keep doing what you are, then let me know much you enjoyed winning the battle only to lose the war.

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