Hillary should not pick Warren but she should pick a true progressive anyway.

[JRLeft]

Fuck Wall Street, she has a chance to pick up a large portion of Bernie donors. She could fundraise from the people.

Hillary has a chance to make a major statement and excite the nation.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. I agree completely.

Senator Warren should stay in the Senate, where she is doing so much good.

[JRLeft]

2. If Hillary gives the middle finger to Wall Street she gains instant credibility.

[pnwmom]

8. Harry Reid doesn't seem worried about losing her spot in the Senate.

He checked into the law and found out it required a special election. And there is a Kennedy who won election to the House with 61% of the vote.

So maybe she could do a much good as V.P. I think it would all depend on how she and Hillary arranged it.

[TheKentuckian]

10. Even if you keep the spot you sideline the voice and leadership on issues.

and trading her in for a backbencher who almost certainly would be far less of a force.

Jewel up someone from the House (aka actually build the bench instead of relying solely on the Social Security set), maybe a former or present cabinet level appointee, or a former Governor.

You'd also be sticking Massachusetts with their 1,000th Senatorial election in like 9 years, it has to adversely affect senorita and influence due to factors having little to do with their state or their own electoral decisions.

[uponit7771]

4. "true progressive" should be a agreed upon benchmark too, not just a small part of the base who want

... to define everyone else's progressive credentials

[JRLeft]

5. Progressivism is not selling out to industry. Hard to regulate industry when you take its money.

[bravenak]

18. Progressivism is about making progress not ideological purity

Taking what we can get then demanding more, not leavng shit that we can get on the table becaus it aint enough. It aint never gonna be enough. But one thing is for sure, peopke are thinking about it now. The cashier at my store just went on a rant at me about conservatives stopping us from getting good healthcare. She says she is changing her registration from R to D. One at a time.

Donald is KILLING Conservatism. Fucking love this shit.

[JRLeft]

22. You can't have progress with the widening of the income inequality gap

and the nonexistent upwards mobility. That won't change if industry continues its control over the democratic party.

[Chan790]

48. Actually, your first sentence is incrementalist and anti-progressive.

It doesn't matter if that's what you think, it's a fact. Incrementalist approaches are anti-progressive by definition.

They're fine when they're necessary, unacceptable otherwise.

[PassingFair]

6. She will pick a conservative white man.

From the south. Or Indiana or Ohio.

[TwilightZone]

12. Her short list contains no one who fits your assertion.

Perhaps you can shed some light on whom you believe she's going to surprise us all with.

[HarmonyRockets]

25. Tim Kaine

[TwilightZone]

26. Tim Kaine isn't conservative

[HarmonyRockets]

34. He's one of the most conservative Democratic members of the Senate

according to progressivepunch. 70% lifetime record on crucial votes, 60% for 2015-16.

[JRLeft]

37. A lot of people do not know what a real progressive looks like. A lot of people in this country

believe neoliberalism is progressivism.

[TwilightZone]

42. Or not.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Tim_Kaine.htm

[HarmonyRockets]

43. Nope, sorry.

http://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?house=senate

[Chan790]

49. Yes, he is. By his own admission and campaign materials.

I know because I was living in Arlington when he first ran for the Senate and he couldn't shut up about how proud he was of being a conservative, traditional Democrat.

[Cary]

7. Hillary is going to romp regardless

Our future looks really bright. Maybe we win the Senate and the House?

[Bucky]

54. She'll romp in the electoral college certainly. I'm not sure she'll get a popular majority tho

Last I saw, the Green & Libertarian candidates are pulling about 12% (9% for Johnson, 3% for Jill)

In a normal year, 3rd parties tend to lose support as November approaches. But this year they're attracting people who are tremendously dissatisfied with the major party nominees. And the public is generally ready for outsiders, which obviously the fringe parties are in spades. Plus Clinton and Trump will be trashing each other AND facing more breaking revelations on their respective scandals (not that I think Clinton's scandal is even close the scope of Trump's dozen or so character-revealing atrocities).

Sadly while the Greens may not hurt Clinton nearly as much as the Libertines will steal votes from Trump, I think their candidates at the Congressional level may give an edge to the Republicans facing Democratic challengers. The better they do, the more secure Ryan is holding onto his gavel.

[Hortensis]

9. How do you feel about Labor Sec Tom Perez?

Business and conservatives don't seem to like him at all, and right wing rags have been badmouthing him as "ultra leftist," "radical," etc. Sounds promising.

Mr. Perez is also an atypical cabinet secretary. The son of first-generation immigrants from the Dominican Republic, he paid his way through Brown University by collecting trash and working in the cafeteria. He went on to study at Harvard Law School, then worked as a federal prosecutor in the Justice Department’s civil rights division. While there, he led an interagency task force designed to improve conditions for low-wage workers.

Mr. Perez has won elected office only once — in 2002, when he took a seat on the Montgomery County Council in Maryland. In that role, he continued to campaign for vulnerable employees, opposing mergers likely to result in job cuts and fighting for better benefits for county workers.

In 2007, he was appointed to run the Maryland Department of Labor, Licensing and Regulation, where his efforts to help workers continued. And in 2009, President Obama appointed Mr. Perez assistant attorney general for civil rights, where he took on discrimination by police, discrimination in schools and onerous voter ID laws.

Mr. Perez has been suggested as a possible vice-presidential running mate for Hillary Clinton. He is progressive enough to excite supporters of Senator Bernie Sanders. He has Latino heritage. (At the Modern, he broke into Spanish when he met a Dominican server.) And he has a strong record pushing for core Democratic values like civil rights.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/business/thomas-perez-a-labor-watchdog-whos-not-all-bite.html

[okasha]

13. I would really like Hillary to save Perez for SCOTUS.

VP is either an apprentice or a mentor. (Or in Cheney's case, a keeper).

[Hortensis]

14. Interesting thought. So you like him!

Cheney, though, demonstrates just how powerful a VP can be and how wide the range of duties -- depending on the president. He had what seemed to be almost unlimited presidential authority at times.

Not that there'd be anything like that with Hillary Clinton, of course, but Pere might have some aspirations that were beyond the scope of Labor Sec that he could pursue with direct presidential power from the White House.

[okasha]

15. I do indeed like him.

In fact, I like everyone on the "short list" that's been circulating. But I would prefer to leave all sitting Senators and Representatives where they are until we have majorities in both Houses. And I think Perez, honestly, would be so strong as AG or on SCOTUS that putting him anywhere else would be wasting his talents.

[Hortensis]

16. I just looked and notice that Moher Jones

liked him for AG in 2016 to replace Holder. But 54 is a nice age for a potential justice... I can see why you think VP would be a waste.

[JRLeft]

19. He could work I need learn more about him though.

[liberalnarb]

11. If not Liz, who do you recommend?

[JRLeft]

21. Find a progressive congresswoman or congressman.

[Armstead]

44. Rep Peter Welch from Vt.

Bernie's replacement. Not a firebrand but very progressiveness in a Bernie sense.

https://welch.house.gov/

[JRLeft]

45. I can get behind him.

[bravenak]

17. But I want Warren

Because Trump is at home crying in his bed because two women are kicking his ass tag team style. He really has no clue how to handle this, I love it so much.

[JRLeft]

20. We need her in the Senate or as a future president.

[bravenak]

23. She won't be able to run in eight years

[JRLeft]

24. Then there's no reason to take her out of the Senate.

[bravenak]

27. What about Sherrod Brown?

[JRLeft]

35. Kasich would replace him.

[StevieM]

50. I disagree. I see no reason why she cannot run in 2024.

I understand that she will be 75 on Election Day. I don't think it matters.

I think a more likely obstacle is the possibility that Hillary's VP will be seeking the White House in his or her own right. But we don't know if that will happen either.

[Gothmog]

29. I also want Warren and she would bring in a large percentage of Sanders supporters

[bravenak]

30. She sure would.

They are a great team, she and Hillary.

[Laffy Kat]

31. I like Warren, too, bravenak.

Those two would absolutely kick ass. If not Warren, I like Castro: progressive, Hispanic, originally from Texas. It's a good fit strategically.

[bravenak]

32. I like Castro too

We have a deep bench. Republicans are scared of running with Trump.

[joshcryer]

36. That's my main reason for backing her.

She really riles Trump up.

[Agnosticsherbet]

28. Progressive Punch lists Warren tied for second place in the Senate as a progrevive

Warren is tied with Tammy Baldwin. Ed Markey is the most progressive.

[Glamrock]

33. Yes she should.

As long as Trump is the candidate that is. If he does make it out the other side of the convention, it'll be a blowout. With that in mind, she should pick the most liberal female she can find....preferably a minority lesbian! I want complete repudiation of the conservative /misogynist movement. A white dude won't send the same message, in my less than humble opinion.

[book_worm]

38. Well if you are going to have a progressive and she's willing to do it why not the

most visible one--Elizabeth Warren?

[JRLeft]

39. Because she would not have a lot of power. VP is weak unless you have a stupid president

(Dubya). She would have to push Hillary's agenda. We need Warren to fight Wall Street from a position of power.

[Cryptoad]

40. If Liz takes the job

it will be one more bitter pill for some to swallow!

Go for it Liz!

[JRLeft]

41. If she takes the job chances are we end up with a corporate Democrat. I

say hell no. Keep her seat progressive with her as senator.

[ecstatic]

46. She needs to pick someone who can run in 2024 and serve 8 years.

That takes Warren off the table.

[JRLeft]

47. Agreed, but she may not go that route.

[StevieM]

51. Not in my mind. I think Warren is absolutely a possibility in 2024.

I could see her running at 75 and serving for eight years until she is 83 years old.

I see no problem with that.

[immoderate]

53. Sounds like fun!

--imm

[LonePirate]

52. My preferences: 1. Becerra 2. O'Malley 3. Pocan