We're in the new GE, right? All on the same side, generally speaking.

In that transcript Trump's clearly linking her to Obama's supposed Islamic ties, but since he's been talking to evangelicals, he could just be accusing her of having (gasp!) no religion at all. That won't go far. Even most of them know she's been a Methodist Christian all her life.

ailsagirl

(22,896 posts)

2. OK-- if I look at something like this in light of drumpf NOT wanting to be president...

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:40 PM

Jun 2016

it all makes sense.

He's being as outrageous as possible, quite deliberately. I don't know if it's "all a game" to him or if he's rapidly deteriorating into some sort of mental madness, but it's beginning to be clear that he's deliberately sabotaging himself.

Through the Looking Glass, anyone??

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)

3. FFS

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:48 PM

Jun 2016

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)

5. Don't religions come with their own certificate!

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:00 PM

Jun 2016

Should be in everyone's passports or ID!

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

7. What Trump said:

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:04 PM

Jun 2016

“She’s been in the public eye for years and years, and yet there’s no, nothing out there. There’s like nothing out there,” he said. “It’s going to be an extension of Obama, but it’s going to be worse, because with Obama you had to have your guard up. With Hillary you don’t and it’s going to be worse."

He added, “We can’t be again politically correct and say we pray for all your leaders because all your leaders are selling Christianity down the tubes, selling the evangelicals down the tube.”

Lying sack of crap.

Just one example, Mr. Trump.

On Monday, at a town-hall-style event in a school gymnasium here, Jessica Manning, 36, a high school guidance counselor from Pella, Iowa, told Mrs. Clinton that as a Catholic and a Democrat, she felt conflicted. She explained that she had called into a Catholic radio show to discuss whom to support in the presidential race, and the host advised that she back a candidate based on faith, rather than blindly supporting any one political party.

Hillary's response:

“Thank you for asking that. I am a person of faith. I am a Christian. I am a Methodist. I have been raised Methodist. I feel very grateful for the instructions and support I received starting in my family but through my church, and I think that any of us who are Christian have a constantly, constant, conversation in our own heads about what we are called to do and how we are asked to do it, and I think it is absolutely appropriate for people to have very strong convictions and also, though, to discuss those with other people of faith. Because different experiences can lead to different conclusions about what is consonant with our faith and how best to exercise it.

The idea you heard on the radio of looking at individuals, I think, is absolutely fair. My study of the Bible, my many conversations with people of faith, has led me to believe the most important commandment is to love the Lord with all your might and to love your neighbor as yourself, and that is what I think we are commanded by Christ to do, and there is so much more in the Bible about taking care of the poor, visiting the prisoners, taking in the stranger, creating opportunities for others to be lifted up, to find faith themselves that I think there are many different ways of exercising your faith. But I do believe that in many areas judgment should be left to God, that being more open, tolerant and respectful is part of what makes me humble about my faith, and I am in awe of people who truly turn the other cheek all the time, who can go that extra mile that we are called to go, who keep finding ways to forgive and move on. Those are really hard things for human beings to do, and there is a lot, certainly in the New Testament, that calls us to do that.

The famous discussion on the Sermon on the Mount should be something that you really pay attention to. There’s a lot of great Bible studies: What does the Sermon on the Mount really mean? What is it calling us to do and to understand? Because it sure does seem to favor the poor and the merciful and those who in worldly terms don’t have a lot but who have the spirit that God recognizes as being at the core of love and salvation.

So there is much to be learned and I have been very disappointed and sorry that Christianity, which has such great love at its core, is sometimes used to condemn so quickly and judge so harshly. When I think part of the message that I certainly have tried to understand and live with is to look at yourself first, to make sure you are being the kind of person you should be in how you are treating others, and I am by no means a perfect person, I will certainly confess that to one and all, but I feel the continuing urge to try to do better, to try to be kinder, to try to be more loving, even with people who are quite harsh.

So, I think you have to keep asking yourself, if you are a person of faith, what is expected of me and am I actually acting the way that I should? And that starts in small ways and goes out in very large ones, but it’s something that I take very seriously. So thank you for asking.”

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/25/hillary-clinton-gets-personal-on-christ-and-her-faith/