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Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:26 PM

Markos: Hillary Clinton 'pivots' to GE by affirming same great liberal policies from primary

By kos

Tuesday Jun 21, 2016 · 2:14 PM EST

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Clinton stuck to her populist themes while speaking today in Columbus, Ohio.

I know, I know, some of you “don’t trust her,” but given opportunities to backtrack from primary promises, Hillary Clinton is actually doing the opposite—she’s doubling down. Some choice bits from her speech today:



I believe we can compete and win in the global economy. And reject any agreements like the partnership that don't meet my high bar for rising wages.



“The partnership” is obviously TPP. Clinton took too long during campaign season to come out against it (a factor in Bernie Sanders’ rise, I believe). I still believe it had more to do with trying not to embarrass the president than any real support for the trade deal, but whether cynical or not, her new position has held.



(Trump) has no ideas how to strengthen medicare or expand social security and his tax plan.



The campaign to expand Social Security appeared to be a pipe dream when a handful of bloggers (really, Atrios) started pushing it four years ago. It was an idea that was anathema to the Third Way crowd as recently as late 2015. And yet here we are, barely six months later, with our “establishment” presidential nominee proudly supporting it.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:48 PM

1. Disagree with Markos. HRC said that TPP was the gold standard in free trade deals until

 

she saw that supporting it publicly was toxic. Her resistance to change had nothing to do with embarrassing President Obama but with the fact that she had participated in negotiating it and had called it the gold standard.

I still do not trust HRC. I credit the progressive movement with forcing her to change her positions and that is the point in being active politically. Politicians rarely change because they want to. They need to either be forced to or be given the right political environment to support changing their once previous bad positions.

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Response to Larkspur (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:58 PM

2. Politicians "change" when they see something will have enough votes

both in campaigns and in Congress. You should thank them for paying attention to the American people.

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:02 PM

3. FDR.....Now make me do it!



After his election in 1932, FDR met with Sidney Hillman and other labor leaders, many of them active Socialists with whom he had worked over the past decade or more. Hillman and his allies arrived with plans they wanted the new President to implement. Roosevelt told them: "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it."

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Response to charlyvi (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:15 PM

6. The Democrats even accused Hoover of being a socialist during the 1932 campaign.

It's hard to really know what Presidents will do considering the evolving political climate. Obama ran for President as anti-gay marriage, then we put all kinds of pressure on him and he's been the best LGBT rights President in history. He's done a couple things I disliked (kicking Jennicet Gutierrez out of the WH pissed me off) but mostly he's responded to pressure.

I think HRC supporters should have been a little more gentle in the primary about reinforcing that she's transparently going to respond to political pressure. Everybody knows that, and we don't have to like it to make it work for the Left.

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Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:13 PM

5. This has all been argued back and forth ad museum. FACT:

she is promising certain actions. You can attribute her evil motives however you want if it makes you sleep better. I am not going to argue it with you beyond stating my opinion which I have done.

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 21, 2016, 10:41 PM

8. 'thank them'?

 

WTF.... I don't 'thank' someone for doing their job, their only priority is 'paying attention' to the citizens

I would 'thank' them if they went above and beyond, so far I haven't seen much of that from our politicians these past years

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Tue Jun 21, 2016, 10:00 PM

7. kick

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