I really believe a Clinton-Warren team is looking better and better...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Senator Warren really seems to relish lambasting Donald Trump. Better to double down on our strengths than chase the mythical white male working class voter... We will never be able to outbid the GOP for his affection because it would mean throwing large parts of our base overboard.

That doesn't mean we should ignore their concerns when we are in power. It does mean we can't count on them to help us gain that power.

[TwilightZone]

1. We may not be able to count on them, but I think we're going to get a lot of them anyway.

Trump may be unprecedented as a candidate. I think there are a lot of moderate Republicans and right-leaning Independents, including some of those white middle-class males, who won't be able to vote for him under any circumstances. Some will stay home; some will vote for Hillary.

When all is said and done this election season, the demographic results could end up being mind-blowing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. I hate to single out any cohort .

But white working class males are a specific demographic, to be distinguished from Republican women, right leaning independents, college educated white males et cetera.

President Obama received 26% of that cohort in 012. Hard to go much lower.

[TwilightZone]

8. Sure, I understand that.

Is Trump going to win them overall? Of course.

Will we get more of them than many might expect? I think it's certainly possible.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. There is a not insignificant plurality of Americans who would vote for David Duke if he had a R ...

There is a not insignificant plurality of American who would vote for David Duke if he had a R after his name.

[Backwoodsrider]

3. never going to happen

Warren is an advocate not a leader. Compare her to Biden who fits the VP role perfectly. Biden smooths over the ruff spots with congress and the Senate as most people like him. Most people do not like Warren.

She will do her best as a senator, hopefully for many years but not in the whitehouse.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. The goal is to get elected and then to govern.

I favor any vice presidential pick that increases the possibility of winning the election.

[Backwoodsrider]

16. Me too, I get giddy thinking of a liberal leaning supreme court that might happen if Dems win

The Clinton camp is going to act like they are seriously vetting Warren to hopefully attract her far left followers but she is not being seriously considered. Warren on the actual ticket would scare off more middle class folks who see her as a frantic taker than a leader, and lets face it Clinton would rather please the middle class than the far left. Even though Clinton is a Dem it is still all about power and while Warren is a pitbull when it come to trying to take from the rich she does not have the type of power the Clinton team is looking for. Nope I believe it is going to be some average white guy from a Midwest state as we need the white guys vote.

[floriduck]

5. I get your reasoning during the GE campaign period. But once elected, I see Clinton's and Warren's

major issues as being different. The fact that some Wall Streeters are telling Hillary not to pick Warren implies she may lose much of their support. If the choice is Jamie Dimon/Loyd Blankfein or Elizabeth Warren, what's Hillary going to do?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I am not a !% er but if I was I would be more comfortable with Clinton/Warren than Trump/Whomever

Why?

Because the former are sane.

[floriduck]

13. One per centers, yes, I agree. Wall Street donors, no. Just my opinion.

[uponit7771]

15. The issues wouldn't be major, if they agreed on everything then somethings wrong... that they

... agree on 93% of things is good.

We'll see... Clinton needs Warren more than vs versa

[KittyWampus]

7. She's got next to nothing to recommend her.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. Other than being an outspoken progressive firebrand.

. She's got next to nothing to recommend her.

Other than being an outspoken progressive firebrand.


I wasn't her biggest fan but the relish with which she goes after Trump has won me over.

[uponit7771]

11. hmmmm

[bigwillq]

12. I'd rather Warren stay in the Senate (nt)

[procon]

14. What would she do differently as the VP?

She is a much more effective agitator right where she is. As the VP she would have many other duties that would make her less effective against Republicans. Keep in mind that the VP speaks for the interests of the entire country, not just Democrats, and in that role she could not be seen as attacking half of the population who are Republicans. As the VP her formidable voice as a raconteur would be lost.

There's also the fact that she's from a safe state and not likely to bring in a huge shift in Democratic voters. If she left Congress, her seat would be up for grabs and a Republican could take it. She would be 76 after Hillary's presidency, and as unfortunate as that might be, that's probably too old by most Americans. She's a strong activist in Congress, and that's where she should stay.

[SheilaT]

17. Okay, so she'd be a fabulous campaigner, but what exactly would she accomplish

after January 20, 2017? The Vice President has zero power, other than the rare opportunity to cast a tie-breaking vote. Which hasn't happened lately.

Last year lots of people here didn't want her to run for President because they felt she belonged in the Senate, not in the White House. So why on god's green earth are so many here wanting her to disappear from being an effective Senator?

[John Poet]

18. I'm a white male working class voter....... (?)

The GOP is nowhere with me.

Is this just about running mates? Because I don't need a white male, or another white, or a male, as VP on the ticket to get my vote. I'm fine without that.

I find it a little offensive to be characterized as a 'likely GOP voter' based on race and sex and especially class...

One problem with my demographic is, the overwhelming numbers of white males in the south and west who vote knee-jerk Republican skew the numbers against those of us in the north who are loyal Democrats. You're right that it's not worth trying to chase them with a white male VP candidate, if that's what you mean, but what you mean isn't totally clear.

The Democrats should be promoting policies that appeal to the working class, white, black pink and purple. If it doesn't, then it ceases to be the Democratic party-- which was one of my concerns during the primary campaign.


I do like Warren for VP, I'm just a tad uncomfortable with how you put it...

[TheBlackAdder]

19. That's a winning combo. It also sets up Warren for 2020.