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I think Bernie will concede later today in that speech (Original Post) malaise Jun 2016 OP
If he was holding out for the final tally in California, maybe so LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #1
If he won the state, how many delegates WhiteTara Jun 2016 #2
Not nearly enough LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #6
Not even close. But he won;t win CA. Adrahil Jun 2016 #15
I don't think he will. The sit-in has pissed him off it seems like. Sheepshank Jun 2016 #3
He was at the sit-in n/t malaise Jun 2016 #4
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #7
Sander's has been in a lose / lose situation for a year. Second guessing is just that. peace13 Jun 2016 #11
Yes he stopped by. Her Sister Jun 2016 #8
His name is Bernie or Senator Sanders. It is not BS. jillan Jun 2016 #27
I use HRC and BS... Her Sister Jun 2016 #29
I don't think people mean anything by using Sanders's initials, lapucelle Jun 2016 #32
That Mr. Thing is super creepy! synergie Jun 2016 #47
He said on Twitter My middle name is Bernie Sanders," Hortensis Jun 2016 #36
Bernie Bernie Sanders Sanders? Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #43
As he said on Twitter. :) Hortensis Jun 2016 #49
And using his initials is crime in your eyes? synergie Jun 2016 #46
Sanders aide says 'no' bigtree Jun 2016 #5
I hope not. peace13 Jun 2016 #9
Is he going to say anything different than last weekend's speech? brooklynite Jun 2016 #10
By now, everyone has his speech memorized. n/t cosmicone Jun 2016 #13
People need frequent reminding. Otherwise it will go throught one ear and come out Cal33 Jun 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Jun 2016 #31
He'll work in the Sit In. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #35
I hope he doesn't run third party. cosmicone Jun 2016 #12
If he does, he would be going against his word. Adrahil Jun 2016 #16
Not only would it be going against his word, he can't in many states Maeve Jun 2016 #38
Texas also has a sore loser law. okasha Jun 2016 #41
Do you know where and when I can get to hear that speech? Thanks. Cal33 Jun 2016 #14
Can't imagine him doing that, and maybe not ever, even at or after the convention. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #18
He gave his word he would endorse and support the nominee, why would you not believe him? Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #44
I don't recall him saying he would endorse her. Can you point me to that? JudyM Jun 2016 #55
Who? CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #19
That was tasteless liberalnarb Jun 2016 #21
Bernie's day-to-day movements, thoughts, decisions, whims aren't that relevant anymore. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #23
Ok, let's just stop here. liberalnarb Jun 2016 #24
Works for me. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #25
Why then point out the irrelevance of the irrelevant unless they are yet relevant? LanternWaste Jun 2016 #40
Bernie Sanders (nt) bigwillq Jun 2016 #22
More snark from a hillary fan, rude and no reason for it. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #30
You're going on my ignore. 840high Jun 2016 #39
Sanders will probably concede at some point bigwillq Jun 2016 #20
He might or might not. Eventually, it won't matter. MineralMan Jun 2016 #26
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #28
I don't see Sanders ever really endorsing Clinton. lapucelle Jun 2016 #33
Agreed. Not that he can't walk it back, but that he can't unsee what he and many more have seen. JudyM Jun 2016 #45
At this point he's pretty irrelevant to me. I'm more focused on the GE NYC Liberal Jun 2016 #34
Meh! Ennnhhhhh! I think he waited too long for it to have any meaningful impact. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #37
A true leader of a revolution needs to have some sense of drama in order to succeed. randome Jun 2016 #50
Doesn't matter at this point anyway bravenak Jun 2016 #42
There's a better chance of aliens landing in my backyard. grossproffit Jun 2016 #48
you want to bet still_one Jun 2016 #51
Bernie cannot and will not do anything till after the convention. litlbilly Jun 2016 #52
When is this happening? HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #53
At the convention. Why is everyone in such a rush? Exilednight Jun 2016 #56
Honestly, it doesn't matter anymore. NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #54

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
1. If he was holding out for the final tally in California, maybe so
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:23 AM
Jun 2016

There's a good chance that he will be mathematically eliminated from winning CA today.

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
2. If he won the state, how many delegates
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:24 AM
Jun 2016

would he pick up? Not enough to overcome Hillary's lead, I don't imagine.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
6. Not nearly enough
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jun 2016

Clinton only needed 17% of the California delegates to win the pledged majority; as of this morning, she would have 47% even if every single remaining ballot goes to Sanders.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
15. Not even close. But he won;t win CA.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jun 2016

Clinton still has about a 450,000 vote lead with only 680,000 votes outstanding. He has been about breaking even with the outstnading votes. No way he takes the lead.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
3. I don't think he will. The sit-in has pissed him off it seems like.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:26 AM
Jun 2016

so "now" is probably not a good time.

Response to malaise (Reply #4)

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
11. Sander's has been in a lose / lose situation for a year. Second guessing is just that.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:45 AM
Jun 2016

Our deciding what he should do is of no value. His life has been an example of real action. He doesn't need to 'start' doing that. People should stop judging and let this play out. In the end our opinions won't make a bit of difference. Imagine if he did what you suggest and use your words. 'This is just the photo op for posterity'........I don't think anyone who knows Bernie would consider that a compliment. People should keep their attention on what is happening on the Floor. Our country is in crisis and we need a resolution. We do not need photo OP's. Thanks for the opportunity to speak.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
27. His name is Bernie or Senator Sanders. It is not BS.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jun 2016


This had gotten old a year ago, yet certain people still use it.

lapucelle

(18,039 posts)
32. I don't think people mean anything by using Sanders's initials,
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jun 2016

but I do remember the middle school kid in me snickering whenever I saw President Obama referred to as BO during his first campaign.

Have you ever noticed how reverently EVERY surrogate refers to The Donald as Mr. Trump? Now that's sickening

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. He said on Twitter My middle name is Bernie Sanders,"
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016

so BBSS would work. Her Sister, a lot of people call him SBS for Senator BS, a way of avoiding giving offense, unintentional or otherwise.

(What were his parents thinking of not to give him a middle name, though?)

Maru Kitteh

(28,303 posts)
43. Bernie Bernie Sanders Sanders?
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jun 2016

Sorry to derail here, but I'm just a little amused trying to figure out where BBSS would come from.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
9. I hope not.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:35 AM
Jun 2016

I think it would be a distraction to what the House is trying to accomplish. In the same breath, I don't think that Hillary or Trump speaking at this time will be beneficial to them. Not saying that they shouldn't do it. It is their choice. I would hope that a speech from Senater Sander's regarding his concession would be at a time when his supporters and team could focus on that.

Sander's concession or lack there of has no effect on Clinton and her ability to do her business.

brooklynite

(93,852 posts)
10. Is he going to say anything different than last weekend's speech?
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jun 2016

"We need a revolution"?

"Run for office"?

I don't see why he needs to speak again, and why he's doing it in New York.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
17. People need frequent reminding. Otherwise it will go throught one ear and come out
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

the other. Have you noticed how often Republicans repeat what they say? That's because
they've discovered that repetition works. Most human beings need it.

Response to Cal33 (Reply #17)

LuvLoogie

(6,854 posts)
35. He'll work in the Sit In.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jun 2016

"Congress has heard our voices and finally standing up! The Revolution is happening! We must continue to put pressure on Congress. This is why we must continue to the convention to make sure our voices heard!"

That or announcing another lawsuit to "let the voters vote."

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
16. If he does, he would be going against his word.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jun 2016

I used to think that NO WAY would be that stupid. He could see it would just empower the Republican, but with his unwillingness to concede? Who knows?

Maeve

(42,224 posts)
38. Not only would it be going against his word, he can't in many states
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jun 2016

Ohio is one of them--it's called a "sore loser" law and says he can't get on the ballot as an indie if he tried and failed to win an party's nomination.
He'll support Hillary.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
41. Texas also has a sore loser law.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jun 2016

It also requires that a write in candidate must declare as a write in candidate, and the sore loser law covers that, too.

Maru Kitteh

(28,303 posts)
44. He gave his word he would endorse and support the nominee, why would you not believe him?
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jun 2016

Why on Earth would anyone assume he did not mean to keep his word?

I firmly believe he will keep his word. While he may be quite famously a bit stubborn (this is frequently a good trait, BTW), I've never heard anyone anywhere suggest he was not honorable.



 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
23. Bernie's day-to-day movements, thoughts, decisions, whims aren't that relevant anymore.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jun 2016

The GE season has commenced.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
40. Why then point out the irrelevance of the irrelevant unless they are yet relevant?
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jun 2016

Why then point out the irrelevance of the irrelevant unless they are yet relevant?

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
20. Sanders will probably concede at some point
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jun 2016

Be it today, next week, next month. Whenever he does it is fine by me. He should be able to concede when he wants to. The election season has moved on, and will move on, whether he concedes or not or does it today or next week or next month.

Response to malaise (Original post)

lapucelle

(18,039 posts)
33. I don't see Sanders ever really endorsing Clinton.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jun 2016

I can see him working hard to make sure that The Donald isn't elected, but I think it's difficult at this point to walk back some of his criticism of Clinton.

I hope Sanders is getting good advice on how to best leverage his primary wins into real power in the Senate.

JudyM

(29,122 posts)
45. Agreed. Not that he can't walk it back, but that he can't unsee what he and many more have seen.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jun 2016

NYC Liberal

(20,132 posts)
34. At this point he's pretty irrelevant to me. I'm more focused on the GE
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jun 2016

and electing HRC and other Democratic candidates in November.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
37. Meh! Ennnhhhhh! I think he waited too long for it to have any meaningful impact.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jun 2016

In my opinion, it will be a non-event. An "oh-that's-nice" moment, rather than a "WOW" moment.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
50. A true leader of a revolution needs to have some sense of drama in order to succeed.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jun 2016

You can't inspire people by blandly following a script.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
42. Doesn't matter at this point anyway
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 05:57 PM
Jun 2016

We all know he is not the nominee. If he does concede I hope he gets to speak at the convention.

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