2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumArmitage to back Clinton over Trump
Former Reagan and Bush appointee is highest-ranking Republican to break ranks for Hillary.Richard Armitage, the deputy secretary of state under George W. Bush, says he will vote for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, in one of the most dramatic signs yet that Republican national security elites are rejecting their partys presumptive nominee.
Armitage, a retired Navy officer who also served as an assistant secretary of defense under Ronald Reagan, is thought by Clinton aides to be the highest-ranking former GOP national security official to openly support Clinton over Trump.
If Donald Trump is the nominee, I would vote for Hillary Clinton, Armitage told POLITICO in a brief interview. He doesn't appear to be a Republican, he doesn't appear to want to learn about issues. So, Im going to vote for Mrs. Clinton.
Dozens of Republican foreign policy elites have already declared their unwillingness to support or work for Trump, though far fewer say they would cast a ballot for Clinton. The latter group includes Max Boot, a prominent neoconservative military analyst and historian; Mark Salter, former longtime chief of staff to Republican Sen. John McCain; and retired Army Col. Peter Mansour, a former top aide to retired Gen. David Petraeus.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/richard-armitage-endorses-clinton-224431
SidDithers
(44,273 posts)Subtle, you ain't.
Sid
insta8er
(960 posts)deserve.
SidDithers
(44,273 posts)Sid
insta8er
(960 posts)SidDithers
(44,273 posts)Sid
insta8er
(960 posts)SidDithers
(44,273 posts)but don't have the courage to actually come out and say it.
Your threads in the past half-hour:
Republican Brent Scowcroft backs Clinton
Armitage to back Clinton over Trump
Former top McCain aide: Ill vote for Clinton over Trump
Bush Treasury Secretary Paulson endorses Clinton
Hard-line right-wing war hawk Max Boot applauds Hillary
Sid
book_worm
(15,951 posts)I'm hoping that Elizabeth Warren will be our VP. She seems to be very comfortable with the idea and supporting Hillary.
SidDithers
(44,273 posts)Sid
insta8er
(960 posts)enlighten us with that either. While I have said on most of my posts that she is reaching over to the other side and seems to be getting them aboard. So...your point?
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)Republican Brent Scowcroft backs Clinton
Armitage to back Clinton over Trump
Former top McCain aide: Ill vote for Clinton over Trump
Bush Treasury Secretary Paulson endorses Clinton
Hard-line right-wing war hawk Max Boot applauds Hillary
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)and even 2008 when Barack Obama got the support of several prominent Republicans.
OrwellwasRight
(5,214 posts)Armitage and neocons hawks hurt consolidation of the Democratic vote. I wish they would shut up.
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)and are choosing accordingly.
If some Sanders voters don't understand that, they might want to reevaluate the situation.
OrwellwasRight
(5,214 posts)People have many choices. Staying home. Voting third party. If we want Hillary Clinton to win, we have to earn the votes of Sanders voters, not say blasé things like "they have the same choice as the rest of us."
As we all should have learned during primary season, there is distrust between the supporters of the two Dem candidates. That won't disappear on its own. It means the Hillary campaign must be smart about reaching out and healing wounds.
Your comments are not only unhelpful, they read as if you have no idea understanding that elections are about turnout. Suppressing turnout does not help Dems.
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)As for the OP, he's posting these endorsements sarcastically. I am treating them accordingly.
insta8er
(960 posts)real. I have given the links to each and everyone of them, or don't you like that they are coming from our good friends across the aisle? if that is the case then it sounds like you have a problem. I am just pointing out how well our candidate is perceived on the other side. Please elaborate...
SidDithers
(44,273 posts)Sid
OrwellwasRight
(5,214 posts)There are other choices out in the world of real people. It's them we need to convince. Your response remains unhelpful.
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)I said that they - meaning Republicans - have two choices and are choosing accordingly. In this case - and likely in many more - their choice is Clinton because Trump is a nutjob.
I wasn't talking about DU. This thread isn't about DU. It's about a Republican endorsing Clinton, which I, unlike the person who posted this thread and about a dozen others, have no problem with. The more, the merrier.
OrwellwasRight
(5,214 posts)I read what you wrote. It said, in full,
"No, there are two options in this race. As for the OP, he's posting these endorsements sarcastically. I am treating them accordingly."
You didn't say "they" and therefore could not have been referring to any "they."
And comments like "This thread isn't about DU" are irrelevant. If you want to respond to the OP, respond to the OP. If you respond to me, please stay on topic. And my topic was that Armitage endorsing Clinton is not helpful in consolidating the Democratic vote. Sentiments like "you have two choices where ya gonna go" actually are not helpful in consolidating that vote. They are going to sound insensitive and arrogant. We should be strategizing on how to drive D turnout, not saying insensitive things that will drive folks to stay home.
Johnny2X2X
(21,822 posts)But even he knows that the nuclear codes belong nowhere near Trump.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Keep these GOP endorsements coming, every last one is OUTSTANDING NEWS for Democrats!!!!!!!!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Beat by a wide margin.
George II
(67,782 posts)oasis
(51,730 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)oasis
(51,730 posts)to America how dangerous Trump would be as president. Certain Democrats would be wise to catch on and follow their lead.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)She will be a great president
scscholar
(2,902 posts)plus the 20 kg bar, so he isn't a normal person. This means nothing.
still_one
(96,715 posts)Bloomberg poll indicates that up to 50% of supposed Sanders supporters say they will not vote for Hillary in the general election against Trump, that implies that those supposed voters don't see Trump as the danger he really is
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-22/nearly-half-of-sanders-supporters-won-t-support-clinton
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)"Dozens of Republican foreign policy elites have already declared their unwillingness to support or work for Trump."