2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Would Be A Popular Vice Presidential Pick, New Poll Says
Source: The Huffington Post
Thirty-nine percent of voters nationwide said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic ticket if Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders were on it, according to a new poll from Monmouth University.
The poll tested six potential Democratic and six potential Republican vice presidential picks, and Sanders was the only name to stand out from the pack. Among undecided voters, a whopping 50 percent said they would be more likely to support the Democrats if its a Clinton-Sanders ticket. That could be a substantial number of voters the HuffPollster model indicates that 9.8 percent of voters are undecided.
Although voters would like Sanders as the vice presidential nominee, the Clinton campaign reportedly does not view a Clinton-Sanders ticket as an option. Sources told the Wall Street Journal that Hillary Clinton is not considering Bernie Sanders as a running mate.
Clintons campaign is instead exploring other alternatives and has reportedly begun to narrow its VP shortlist. Among the floated names are Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine, and Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro of Texas.
In the Monmouth poll, Warren is the second-place finisher among vice presidential options 24 percent of voters said they would be more likely to vote Democratic if Warren were on the ticket. A recent CNN/ORC poll shows that 34 percent of the Democratic electorate believes Clinton should select Warren, while 54 percent said they would rather see someone else on the ticket.
Kaine mobilizes a low level of voter interest a mere 5 percent of likely voters backing Clinton in a recent Bloomberg Politics national poll say that Clinton should select Kaine as her running mate. Only 9 percent of all voters nationwide say they would be more likely to vote Democratic with Kaine on the ticket, according to the Monmouth poll.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-vice-president_us_576d761ee4b0dbb1bbba7942
msongs
(67,395 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)The Monmouth University poll of 803 registered voters nationwide was conducted June 15-19, 2016. Respondents were reached by both landline and mobile telephone. Results have a margin of error of +/- 3.5 percentage points.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)I hardly think that likely.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)for the past year. I also don't think he is a good choice for a number of reasons.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)The polling that shows Elizabeth Warren with strong support among voters and which also shows Tim Kaine with practically no support among voters.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I would not want to have to share an office with someone who I defeated. I also think she needs someone younger, younger than her actually. I LOVE Warren, I think she does us much more good in the Senate. If she were running i would have broken down doors to get her elected. I don't think Tim Kaine is the guy, I think it will be Castro from Texas.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Castro just hasn't distinguished himself with the American populace. Picking Castro would be the equivalent of picking 'random guy off of the street'.
And Kaine is a poor choice as he re-enforces the public perception of Clinton as being subservient to Wall Street's interests.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)who is not crazy. I still don't think it will be Kaine.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)point from his canned stump speech when asked, so no need to keep rehashing bogus talking points since the primaries are over.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)She would have to deal with him on a daily basis and worry about what he would say at any given time. I would not want anyone in my administration, better choice of words, that I had defeated. Now it worked for Hillary and Barack but she stopped the attacks before the convention.
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts). . . Vice Presidents have no executive authority beyond what the President chooses to delegate to them.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)She'll see fine enough to make a good vp pick
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La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)People are not as dumb as you seem to think they are. She won because she had done the work of being well integrated with minority communities for years. minority voters are not stupid.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Basically the entire base.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I like a lot of his ideas but in the end I knew he could not get elected. I knew the RNC would run ads saying he was a socialist and to so many uneducated Americans that is communist. The ads run against him in the primary were nothing compared to what they would run in the GE. I commend the Bernie supporters, they are progressives, but so are a lot of us, we just never got credit for it. Sorry we will continue to disagree about Bernie. I am looking to the general and a VP candidate that will bring something additional to the table.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)people who showed up to vote. No sense rehashing bogus primary talking points now.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)I guess more people knew Barack Obama in 2008 and Bernie spent all that money on ads that never included his name.
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red dog 1
(27,792 posts)Has the platform already been written?
Do we know for sure that it WILL be pro-fracking, pro-TPP, against $15/hr minimum wage, and against "single-payer"?
If it is all those things, then I agree with you that Bernie Sanders, as well as many liberals & progressives will likely not "accept such a regressive platform.."
My hope is that the Clinton & Sanders people will work together to come up with a platform
that appeals to progressives as well as so-called "centrists."
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Little Star
(17,055 posts)red dog 1
(27,792 posts)"Thirty nine percent of voters nationwide say they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic ticket .if Sanders is on it"
as opposed to twenty four percent if Elizabeth Warren is on the ticket.
Also important, IMO, is the finding that "among undecided voters, a whopping 50 percent said they would be more likely to support the Democrats if it's a Clinton-Sanders ticket."
This is important because of the unusually large chunk of American voters who are still undecided.
However, I think Elizabeth Warren would also make a great V.P. candidate, and I don't think that two women on the same ticket would be a bad thing, especially since Trump may well choose a woman to be on the ticket with him.
If it came down to picking someone other than Bernie, Sen.Warren would be a much better choice than either Sen. Tim Caine or Julian Castro, IMO.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)That person is not on any short list I've seen and he's not being vetted, so the point is entirely moot.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)William769
(55,145 posts)think
(11,641 posts)William769
(55,145 posts)This was on June 7th Clinton endorses Obama, calls for party unity http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/07/clinton.unity/index.html?eref=rss_us
Hillary actually did help Democrats win, Sanders not so much (he can't even endorse the presumptive nominee).
So what's up with Sanders? (Yes that's a rhetorical question.)
Better luck next time.
think
(11,641 posts)William769
(55,145 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Clinton conceded on June 7, 2008; she endorsed Obama in her concession speech and urged her followers to vote for him.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5020581
Sen. Hillary Clinton conceded the Democratic nomination to Sen. Barack Obama Saturday in Washington.
"The way to continue our fight now, to accomplish the goals for which we stand, is to take our energy, our passion, our strength, and do all we can to help elect Barack Obama as the next president of the United States," Clinton said.
"Today, as I suspend my campaign, I congratulated him on the victory he has won. ... I endorse him and throw my full support behind him."
Clinton began lightly, telling the cheering crowd, "Well, this isn't exactly the party I'd planned, but I sure like the company."
It is now June 26 and Sanders has done none of this, even though her lead over Sanders is far larger than Obama's was over her in '08. As far as a VP nod, of course she would have taken it "to help Dems win". She's like that. Warren would accept it now, and probably Sanders if he were asked, for the same reason. Irony indeed.
think
(11,641 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Saying you would consider it if it helps the party is not the same as "inviting herself to be VP". Candidates say that every cycle. I guess you don't get that. See, I can be condescending too.
think
(11,641 posts)cosmicone
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Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Personally I think both he and she would do better with him being appointed Secretary of the Treasury and let him have at it in the area he's the strongest.
VP is such a.. Well.. Blah position.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)oasis
(49,376 posts)to run smoothly. The MSM would be sticking a mic in this face on a daily basis in hopes of getting him to second guess her on every issue.
robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)The guy is still running against her. Somehow.