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w4rma

(31,700 posts)
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:41 PM Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders Would Be A Popular Vice Presidential Pick, New Poll Says

Source: The Huffington Post

Thirty-nine percent of voters nationwide said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic ticket if Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders were on it, according to a new poll from Monmouth University.

The poll tested six potential Democratic and six potential Republican vice presidential picks, and Sanders was the only name to stand out from the pack. Among undecided voters, a whopping 50 percent said they would be more likely to support the Democrats if it’s a Clinton-Sanders ticket. That could be a substantial number of voters — the HuffPollster model indicates that 9.8 percent of voters are undecided.

Although voters would like Sanders as the vice presidential nominee, the Clinton campaign reportedly does not view a Clinton-Sanders ticket as an option. Sources told the Wall Street Journal that Hillary Clinton is not considering Bernie Sanders as a running mate.

Clinton’s campaign is instead exploring other alternatives and has reportedly begun to narrow its VP shortlist. Among the floated names are Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine, and Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro of Texas.

In the Monmouth poll, Warren is the second-place finisher among vice presidential options — 24 percent of voters said they would be more likely to vote Democratic if Warren were on the ticket. A recent CNN/ORC poll shows that 34 percent of the Democratic electorate believes Clinton should select Warren, while 54 percent said they would rather see someone else on the ticket.

Kaine mobilizes a low level of voter interest — a mere 5 percent of likely voters backing Clinton in a recent Bloomberg Politics national poll say that Clinton should select Kaine as her running mate. Only 9 percent of all voters nationwide say they would be more likely to vote Democratic with Kaine on the ticket, according to the Monmouth poll.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-vice-president_us_576d761ee4b0dbb1bbba7942

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Bernie Sanders Would Be A Popular Vice Presidential Pick, New Poll Says (Original Post) w4rma Jun 2016 OP
is this the Onion? nt msongs Jun 2016 #1
This is the Monmouth University poll w4rma Jun 2016 #4
Since Clinton people now own 'The Onion', John Poet Jun 2016 #44
Ain't happening. She has to be concerned about that other 61% tonyt53 Jun 2016 #2
I don't see it. I don't think he would even like being second banana after being in the limelight redstatebluegirl Jun 2016 #3
I agree. Clinton is too shortsighted to see the benefit. But, the other polling is more interesting. w4rma Jun 2016 #6
I don't agree about Clinton, I think she sees just fine. redstatebluegirl Jun 2016 #7
Noone outside of a few political junkies care about Castro. He doesn't help the ticket. w4rma Jun 2016 #8
It isn't going to be Bernie, it may be Warren if they can find someone who can fill her seat redstatebluegirl Jun 2016 #13
"subservient to Wall Street's interests" Bernie himself was unable to substantiate that talking R B Garr Jun 2016 #29
Your wording about Julian Castro leaves something to be desired. nt sheshe2 Jun 2016 #42
Presidents don't "share an office" with Vice Presidents n/t markpkessinger Jun 2016 #25
I know that...it was a figure of speech. redstatebluegirl Jun 2016 #28
I got that . . . but it isn't true even figuratively . . . markpkessinger Jun 2016 #34
She saw fine enough to win this primary La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #9
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #10
No, she won because core democratic base trusts her La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #11
Name recognition among older Democrats. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #12
Trust among gay democrats, black democrats, Hispanic democrats and women La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #14
"Basically the entire base. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #43
Nope, she won because she appealed to the base more than Bernie. redstatebluegirl Jun 2016 #15
Another bogus talking point that has been proven completely wrong by the actual R B Garr Jun 2016 #26
Funny how that works... SaschaHM Jun 2016 #17
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #5
I agree, but red dog 1 Jun 2016 #19
I trust Hillary to pick the right Veep!! Hiraeth Jun 2016 #16
No thanks. Little Star Jun 2016 #18
While only 803 voters is not a very large sample, this poll does have potentially important data red dog 1 Jun 2016 #20
Moot point. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #21
Thankfully that isn't going to happen. n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #22
Not going to happen. You reap what you sow. nt William769 Jun 2016 #23
"Clinton refuses to concede nomination" Says she'll consider a VP role to help Dems win think Jun 2016 #30
That was on June 4th. William769 Jun 2016 #31
Sanders didn't invite himself to be VP did he? Better luck next time... think Jun 2016 #32
To the Victor goes the spoils. William769 Jun 2016 #33
Oh, please charlyvi Jun 2016 #35
She invited herself to be the VP. That was the point. But I guess you missed that part.... think Jun 2016 #37
She did not "invite" herself to be the VP charlyvi Jun 2016 #39
If it makes you feel better keep parsing those words... think Jun 2016 #40
OK. charlyvi Jun 2016 #41
Who? n/t cosmicone Jun 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Jun 2016 #27
Is VP really a good place for him though? Amimnoch Jun 2016 #36
No. Xavier Becerra for VP. lunamagica Jun 2016 #38
Bernie as VP would be a large distraction for Hillary's administration oasis Jun 2016 #45
Then, it's a good thing it's not done by polling. robbedvoter Jun 2016 #46
 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
4. This is the Monmouth University poll
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jun 2016

The Monmouth University poll of 803 registered voters nationwide was conducted June 15-19, 2016. Respondents were reached by both landline and mobile telephone. Results have a margin of error of +/- 3.5 percentage points.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
3. I don't see it. I don't think he would even like being second banana after being in the limelight
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jun 2016

for the past year. I also don't think he is a good choice for a number of reasons.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
6. I agree. Clinton is too shortsighted to see the benefit. But, the other polling is more interesting.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jun 2016

The polling that shows Elizabeth Warren with strong support among voters and which also shows Tim Kaine with practically no support among voters.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
7. I don't agree about Clinton, I think she sees just fine.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jun 2016

I would not want to have to share an office with someone who I defeated. I also think she needs someone younger, younger than her actually. I LOVE Warren, I think she does us much more good in the Senate. If she were running i would have broken down doors to get her elected. I don't think Tim Kaine is the guy, I think it will be Castro from Texas.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
8. Noone outside of a few political junkies care about Castro. He doesn't help the ticket.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jun 2016

Castro just hasn't distinguished himself with the American populace. Picking Castro would be the equivalent of picking 'random guy off of the street'.

And Kaine is a poor choice as he re-enforces the public perception of Clinton as being subservient to Wall Street's interests.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
13. It isn't going to be Bernie, it may be Warren if they can find someone who can fill her seat
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jun 2016

who is not crazy. I still don't think it will be Kaine.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
29. "subservient to Wall Street's interests" Bernie himself was unable to substantiate that talking
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jun 2016

point from his canned stump speech when asked, so no need to keep rehashing bogus talking points since the primaries are over.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
28. I know that...it was a figure of speech.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jun 2016

She would have to deal with him on a daily basis and worry about what he would say at any given time. I would not want anyone in my administration, better choice of words, that I had defeated. Now it worked for Hillary and Barack but she stopped the attacks before the convention.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
34. I got that . . . but it isn't true even figuratively . . .
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jun 2016

. . . Vice Presidents have no executive authority beyond what the President chooses to delegate to them.

Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #9)

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
11. No, she won because core democratic base trusts her
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jun 2016

People are not as dumb as you seem to think they are. She won because she had done the work of being well integrated with minority communities for years. minority voters are not stupid.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
15. Nope, she won because she appealed to the base more than Bernie.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 03:52 PM
Jun 2016

I like a lot of his ideas but in the end I knew he could not get elected. I knew the RNC would run ads saying he was a socialist and to so many uneducated Americans that is communist. The ads run against him in the primary were nothing compared to what they would run in the GE. I commend the Bernie supporters, they are progressives, but so are a lot of us, we just never got credit for it. Sorry we will continue to disagree about Bernie. I am looking to the general and a VP candidate that will bring something additional to the table.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
26. Another bogus talking point that has been proven completely wrong by the actual
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jun 2016

people who showed up to vote. No sense rehashing bogus primary talking points now.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
17. Funny how that works...
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 03:55 PM
Jun 2016

I guess more people knew Barack Obama in 2008 and Bernie spent all that money on ads that never included his name.

Response to w4rma (Original post)

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
19. I agree, but
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jun 2016

Has the platform already been written?

Do we know for sure that it WILL be pro-fracking, pro-TPP, against $15/hr minimum wage, and against "single-payer"?

If it is all those things, then I agree with you that Bernie Sanders, as well as many liberals & progressives will likely not "accept such a regressive platform.."

My hope is that the Clinton & Sanders people will work together to come up with a platform
that appeals to progressives as well as so-called "centrists."

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
20. While only 803 voters is not a very large sample, this poll does have potentially important data
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jun 2016

"Thirty nine percent of voters nationwide say they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic ticket .if Sanders is on it"
as opposed to twenty four percent if Elizabeth Warren is on the ticket.

Also important, IMO, is the finding that "among undecided voters, a whopping 50 percent said they would be more likely to support the Democrats if it's a Clinton-Sanders ticket."
This is important because of the unusually large chunk of American voters who are still undecided.

However, I think Elizabeth Warren would also make a great V.P. candidate, and I don't think that two women on the same ticket would be a bad thing, especially since Trump may well choose a woman to be on the ticket with him.

If it came down to picking someone other than Bernie, Sen.Warren would be a much better choice than either Sen. Tim Caine or Julian Castro, IMO.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
21. Moot point.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jun 2016

That person is not on any short list I've seen and he's not being vetted, so the point is entirely moot.

William769

(55,145 posts)
31. That was on June 4th.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jun 2016

This was on June 7th Clinton endorses Obama, calls for party unity http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/07/clinton.unity/index.html?eref=rss_us

Hillary actually did help Democrats win, Sanders not so much (he can't even endorse the presumptive nominee).

So what's up with Sanders? (Yes that's a rhetorical question.)

Better luck next time.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
35. Oh, please
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jun 2016

Clinton conceded on June 7, 2008; she endorsed Obama in her concession speech and urged her followers to vote for him.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5020581

Sen. Hillary Clinton conceded the Democratic nomination to Sen. Barack Obama Saturday in Washington.

"The way to continue our fight now, to accomplish the goals for which we stand, is to take our energy, our passion, our strength, and do all we can to help elect Barack Obama as the next president of the United States," Clinton said.

"Today, as I suspend my campaign, I congratulated him on the victory he has won. ... I endorse him and throw my full support behind him."

Clinton began lightly, telling the cheering crowd, "Well, this isn't exactly the party I'd planned, but I sure like the company."


It is now June 26 and Sanders has done none of this, even though her lead over Sanders is far larger than Obama's was over her in '08. As far as a VP nod, of course she would have taken it "to help Dems win". She's like that. Warren would accept it now, and probably Sanders if he were asked, for the same reason. Irony indeed.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
39. She did not "invite" herself to be the VP
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jun 2016

Saying you would consider it if it helps the party is not the same as "inviting herself to be VP". Candidates say that every cycle. I guess you don't get that. See, I can be condescending too.

Response to w4rma (Original post)

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
36. Is VP really a good place for him though?
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jun 2016

Personally I think both he and she would do better with him being appointed Secretary of the Treasury and let him have at it in the area he's the strongest.

VP is such a.. Well.. Blah position.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
45. Bernie as VP would be a large distraction for Hillary's administration
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jun 2016

to run smoothly. The MSM would be sticking a mic in this face on a daily basis in hopes of getting him to second guess her on every issue.

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