2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBREAKING: Hillary Clinton DOWN TEN POINTS!!!!!
That's damned well how all of us should be handling this election, any way.
Fuck the polls, we're down ten points and we have to double down on our work!!!
FUCK THE POLLS, the latest SCOTUS decisions have emboldened the evil right to get out and hold their noses and vote for the fucking moron in an orangatan suit!!!!
FUCK THE POLLS!!! AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, HILLARY CLINTON IS DOWN TEN POINTS AND WE ALL HAVE TO WORK OUR ASSESS OFF TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!
IF we don't consider ourselves down ten points in the polls from now until November, this thing could easily slip away.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)Run like you're ten points behind. No complacency allowed!
BlueNoMatterWho
(880 posts)The state polls are way too close for comfort.
Kingofalldems
(38,452 posts)Wow!!
I always believe Fox & Friends.
And they have absolutely no agenda!!
Haha.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)jamese777
(546 posts)For the week of October 15, 2012 had Romney beating Obama by 7 points. Three weeks later Obama beat Romney by 4.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)as he wears their label. A sad observation over 40 years is that most conservatives, who may be kind, honorable, responsible and sensible people among their own family and friends, knowingly vote scum and idiots into office when they're the Republicans on the ballot.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... 10
still_one
(92,155 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Too much can happen on election day to risk waiting until last minute.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)didn't count them till election night.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)election day illness, long lines, family event, work, weather, laziness, or whatever interferes with best intentions (and I've been guilty of a couple of those over the years).
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)get out to vote.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)how stupid are people in this country? i don't care if you're a right winger, you've got to know that trump is not qualified and could get us into a war. even people in his party are afraid of him.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Good to be reminded of this.
WhiteTara
(29,704 posts)in the car. You never know when you will get to register someone.
brer cat
(24,560 posts)The deal killers are complacency and over confidence.
eallen
(2,953 posts)Trump is the most irresponsible presidential candidate a major party has put forward in our lifetimes.
For the sake of our nation, we need to make sure he loses in a way that makes 1964 look a close match.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)People are starting to realize that Trump is making it up as he goes along.
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hollysmom
(5,946 posts)educate people to all of them.
treestar
(82,383 posts)We have to pay attention to elections other than the Presidency. It seems to be our weakness, one the Rs don't have.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Especially the independents among them, who have far less reason to care about a D behind someone's name.
And that means: no TPP, no TTIP, no fracking, no Citizens United, no wars. Police Reform. An end to unwarrented surveilance. Reform of the second amendment. Change, not status quo. Going left, not going on.
And for crying out loud: NO THIRD WAY VP CANDIDATE! NO THIRD WAY DNC CHAIR! NO THIRD WAY SENATE LEADER! If "Clinton is down ten points", then "Third Way has run its course and we need a new direction".
Fair enough?
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)that they don't get representation this time around. The umbrella is big enough for everyone, you know.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)it needs to stop raining, and we can make that happen. Systemic change. Your moderate acquaintances will like it too.
Fair enough?
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)acknowledging that there is more than one way to govern and more than one type of constituent within the Democratic Party. For example, some of the moderates I personally know didn't agree with most of Bernie's platform. Does that mean they don't get a say in what kind of representative they want because it's not progressive enough for some?
And they would disagree that what you think is good for them is actually good them. They'd say they know their own minds and would like things to be their way--which would exclude most of the progressive strides we've made. Doesn't make them less a Democrat--just makes them a different kind of Democrat (the kind that I see slammed so often on DU but they still support the Democratic Party nonetheless).
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)if we are to compare the two platforms in a cartoonish way, Clinton's platform (or the DNC's preferred platform, or Third Way's preferred platform, or what have you) could be described as "a big umbrella for lots of different people to find shelter against the rain. Meanwhile, Sanders (or the Democratic Left, or the Progressive Independents, or all of them together) advocated that we can collectively step out of the rain, thus obviating the need for the umbrella. So now we are discussing whether the want a stationary party that tries to maintain the umbrella, or a movement that gets us out of the rain, or maybe a compromise where we orderly walk out of the rain while holding the umbrella.
Because if the young, the restless, the entire left are going to walk anyway, we won't have enough people left to hold up the umbrella.
Fair enough?
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Stuart G
(38,419 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,338 posts)Gotta keep that balloon inflated until AFTER the Repugnant Convention. We don't want them to somehow conjure up a different candidate. This one's a classic.