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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. It doesn't hurt your candidate to admit that Bernie had some influence here.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

OK, she has some progressive views, but Bernie added some good things.

Just let this be a partnership, a coalition for victory.

There aren't any votes in the fall you can ONLY get by saying Bernie didn't matter.

Response to Ken Burch (Reply #2)

still_one

(92,108 posts)
4. You are right Ken, but it is also a fact that those progressive decisions that are part of the
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jun 2016

platform were arrived at because all sides worked together on the committee.


 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
11. I'm grateful for that, but some people are arguing that it was all HRC's doing
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jun 2016

and in doing so, they are trying to imply that Bernie's campaign should never have happened.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
5. I honestly don't
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jun 2016

Think he did much for the party.

Hillary and Bernie agree on most of the same things. The only thing Bernie did was talk about $15 min wage, universal health care and breaking up the big banks. All were current democratic values, but more realistic in timeframe, Bernie didn't really bring new ideas.

You asked, I answered.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
9. Sorry, Bernie is not a Neoliberal. He's an FDR Democrat.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jun 2016

Many of the social issues are within the realm of agreement. But there is a big difference...and a lot of it around Money and Power. Who has it and who doesn't.

We all have our opinions.

Response to Chasstev365 (Reply #7)

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
12. When some people act like they invented what everybody else has worked towards for years,
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jun 2016

you have to expect that there will be push-back.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
14. Since you asked.....
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jun 2016

I do not buy into this meme that all of these ideas are his. She has had held out most of these issues for a very long time, AND her policy proposals are much more detailed than his, and frankly more practical and likely to see the light of day in congress. Folks that can't admit that are the same people who will not accept that they voted the same way 93% of the time, or continue to insist she is republican light when that is just factually incorrect.

I also will not soon forgive him for spending a solid year trashing the Democratic party, claiming the system is rigged, and attacking the DNC. The party is the ONLY thing that stands between liberal people and the horrific damage the GOP has done and will do to this country. And the fact that he has convinced a generation of young people that Dems are crooks is pretty much unforgiveable in my opinion.

To potential jurors - I am simply answering the question Ken asked. I assume he did want an honest response.

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