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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 09:48 AM Jun 2016

Kaine was "exciting" enough to be elected mayor, Lt. Gov., Gov., and US Senator. Hm, not bad.

Kaine is quite obviously a good campaigner, and if you've ever seen him in a committee hearing he is crisp, articulate, well-thought, focused, savvy, and simply brilliant.

The first and foremost criterion for VP is if the person is well qualified to be president. Gee, um, in '08 the R's decided to take a "bold" gamble with Palin. Oh she was new, different, and "exciting" right? When she was chosen, oh boy, remember the huge crowds and all the "excitement"? But she wasn't ready for the job. She was from a small in population red state so really brought no new geography to the race.

True, Palin is no Warren. But Warren is not ready to be President, brings no new geography or demographics to the table, and doesn't bring gender balance either which is a plain reality at this point in our history and most everyone knows it.

The VP job isn't just about "excitement." It is about being prepared to be the president at a moment's notice if necessary. And it is also about the ENTIRE picture, not just the "excitement" factor.





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Kaine was "exciting" enough to be elected mayor, Lt. Gov., Gov., and US Senator. Hm, not bad. (Original Post) RBInMaine Jun 2016 OP
OK think Jun 2016 #1
He's still boring, compared to Warren, who is exciting. nt s-cubed Jun 2016 #2
Warren would be much more effective in the Senate. A VP doesn't have much sway. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #11
Boredom and/or excitement is simply commercial branding LanternWaste Jun 2016 #12
I've met him on several occasions underpants Jun 2016 #3
Heard him recently on an NPR oswaldactedalone Jun 2016 #4
Kaine helps with moderate republican/independents Funtatlaguy Jun 2016 #5
You make a good argument for Mr. Kaine PJMcK Jun 2016 #6
The bottom line on Elizabeth Warren--HRC gave her a blank check. MADem Jun 2016 #7
I like Kaine, but no administration has ever had "gender balance" Renew Deal Jun 2016 #8
hillary has several dozen great picks she can choose from... beachbum bob Jun 2016 #9
But he really is blah whatthehey Jun 2016 #10
He's perfectly qualified, and I think he'd be okay.... Adrahil Jun 2016 #13
He's ok, personally I find a Sanders VP the best choice for Mrs. Clinton to unite the party. Sunlei Jun 2016 #14
They are all qualified jcgoldie Jun 2016 #15
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Boredom and/or excitement is simply commercial branding
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jun 2016

Boredom and/or excitement is simply commercial branding, and has little to nothing to so with management, policy, leadership, and breadth/depth of relevant knowledge.

underpants

(182,725 posts)
3. I've met him on several occasions
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jun 2016

He is as real as he seems in TV.

He is a great campaigner. Fluent in Spanish due to his Catholic mission to Honduras (before law school I think) and he virtually locks up Virginia.

As for the Warren comment - you're on your own with that one.

Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
5. Kaine helps with moderate republican/independents
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jun 2016

Warren helps with younger and more liberal Dems, some Sanders people (like me).
I adore her. But, I'm very liberal. So, not all that representative of general population.

PJMcK

(22,023 posts)
6. You make a good argument for Mr. Kaine
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jun 2016

Let's see what Secretary Clinton comes up with. She's pretty smart and has really good advisors so we can be assured that she'll make her decision intelligently.

In 2008, my family and I were in a restaurant when then Senator Obama announced Senator Biden as his running mate. I was very surprised by his choice and as the announcement was made, a huge groan went through the eatery. History has shown that Mr. Obama made a brilliant choice as Vice President Biden has been exemplary in his position.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. The bottom line on Elizabeth Warren--HRC gave her a blank check.
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jun 2016

If she's not going to be VP, she's going to have her pick of positions--should she be interested. Treasury? Sure. Fed Chair? You're up next! What's your pleasure?

Warren is performing a great service for both Clinton and the Democratic Party. She is doing the UNITY deed and doing it superbly.

She deserves her propers.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
10. But he really is blah
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 10:10 AM
Jun 2016

Not a bad trait. Solid reasonable chap a bit right of many Dems. Decent campaigner and well-informed. He helps in a swing state and he doesn't raid the Senate.

That's quite a bit, but it's all he's got. He doesn't really fill any HRC gaps other than chromosomes, and how many sexists will be swayed by VP gender? He doesn't electrify any constituency blocs like Warren or Castro. He would scare the choice lobby despite his Solomon impression lately. He's not great in the attack dog role VPs often fill in GE campaigns, and we already have a thoughtful, pragmatic but not particularly gripping vanilla politico on the ticket.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
13. He's perfectly qualified, and I think he'd be okay....
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 11:36 AM
Jun 2016

but let's face it, he would be kind of a "meh" pick.

I won't cry if he's picked, but I might prefer Martin O'Malley over him. I'm a little surprised O'Malley was never considered.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. He's ok, personally I find a Sanders VP the best choice for Mrs. Clinton to unite the party.
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 11:41 AM
Jun 2016

and get out the D voters in historic numbers.

jcgoldie

(11,627 posts)
15. They are all qualified
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jun 2016

VP doesn't do much anyway. The question isn't who's qualified its who brings the most people to the polls.

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