2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumKaine was "exciting" enough to be elected mayor, Lt. Gov., Gov., and US Senator. Hm, not bad.
Kaine is quite obviously a good campaigner, and if you've ever seen him in a committee hearing he is crisp, articulate, well-thought, focused, savvy, and simply brilliant.
The first and foremost criterion for VP is if the person is well qualified to be president. Gee, um, in '08 the R's decided to take a "bold" gamble with Palin. Oh she was new, different, and "exciting" right? When she was chosen, oh boy, remember the huge crowds and all the "excitement"? But she wasn't ready for the job. She was from a small in population red state so really brought no new geography to the race.
True, Palin is no Warren. But Warren is not ready to be President, brings no new geography or demographics to the table, and doesn't bring gender balance either which is a plain reality at this point in our history and most everyone knows it.
The VP job isn't just about "excitement." It is about being prepared to be the president at a moment's notice if necessary. And it is also about the ENTIRE picture, not just the "excitement" factor.
s-cubed
(1,385 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Boredom and/or excitement is simply commercial branding, and has little to nothing to so with management, policy, leadership, and breadth/depth of relevant knowledge.
underpants
(182,725 posts)He is as real as he seems in TV.
He is a great campaigner. Fluent in Spanish due to his Catholic mission to Honduras (before law school I think) and he virtually locks up Virginia.
As for the Warren comment - you're on your own with that one.
oswaldactedalone
(3,490 posts)interview show and I thought he sounded great. Well-spoken, you might say!
Funtatlaguy
(10,868 posts)Warren helps with younger and more liberal Dems, some Sanders people (like me).
I adore her. But, I'm very liberal. So, not all that representative of general population.
PJMcK
(22,023 posts)Let's see what Secretary Clinton comes up with. She's pretty smart and has really good advisors so we can be assured that she'll make her decision intelligently.
In 2008, my family and I were in a restaurant when then Senator Obama announced Senator Biden as his running mate. I was very surprised by his choice and as the announcement was made, a huge groan went through the eatery. History has shown that Mr. Obama made a brilliant choice as Vice President Biden has been exemplary in his position.
MADem
(135,425 posts)If she's not going to be VP, she's going to have her pick of positions--should she be interested. Treasury? Sure. Fed Chair? You're up next! What's your pleasure?
Warren is performing a great service for both Clinton and the Democratic Party. She is doing the UNITY deed and doing it superbly.
She deserves her propers.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)any of them will be good...
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)Not a bad trait. Solid reasonable chap a bit right of many Dems. Decent campaigner and well-informed. He helps in a swing state and he doesn't raid the Senate.
That's quite a bit, but it's all he's got. He doesn't really fill any HRC gaps other than chromosomes, and how many sexists will be swayed by VP gender? He doesn't electrify any constituency blocs like Warren or Castro. He would scare the choice lobby despite his Solomon impression lately. He's not great in the attack dog role VPs often fill in GE campaigns, and we already have a thoughtful, pragmatic but not particularly gripping vanilla politico on the ticket.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)but let's face it, he would be kind of a "meh" pick.
I won't cry if he's picked, but I might prefer Martin O'Malley over him. I'm a little surprised O'Malley was never considered.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)and get out the D voters in historic numbers.
jcgoldie
(11,627 posts)VP doesn't do much anyway. The question isn't who's qualified its who brings the most people to the polls.