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uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 03:25 PM Jun 2016

Bad News For Donald Dump, Sanders Supporters Flocking To Hillary Clinton

http://winningdemocrats.com/bad-news-for-trump-sanders-voters-are-flocking-to-hillary-clinton/


The Washington Post reports that “20 percent of Sanders supporters said they would back Trump over Clinton in the general election” in a poll conducted last month. Now that number is down sharply to only 8 percent, which means the progressive wing of the party is getting behind the woman who is seeking to become the first female president in United States history.

That new number could even drop further considering the poll was conducted prior to Bernie Sanders declaring that he would support Clinton over Trump and that his supporters should do the same.


From Maddows show the other night Clinton has a faster transition of Sanders voters to her than Clinton voters had to Obama in 08.

I'm not understanding from what position of leverage Sanders is coming from seeing there's relatively little hold overs and Clinton has Warren now, not a progressive slouch.

Is he going to withhold a smiley face from Clinton when she passes by in congressional halls?

Your take?

tia
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Bad News For Donald Dump, Sanders Supporters Flocking To Hillary Clinton (Original Post) uponit7771 Jun 2016 OP
Having Warren with us really made it unnecessary to beg for an endorsement bravenak Jun 2016 #1
+1, He's losing whatever influence that he could've had by holding out for the perfect over the good uponit7771 Jun 2016 #2
Exactly my thoughts on this, too obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #9
I am a Sanders supporter gabeana Jun 2016 #3
Your last sentence PJMcK Jun 2016 #6
I hope it destroys them gabeana Jun 2016 #8
The long view of history PJMcK Jun 2016 #16
All good points you made gabeana Jun 2016 #17
Your second sentence. brush Jun 2016 #14
I think they are probably Randians obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #10
Yeah gabeana Jun 2016 #11
I won't be holding my breath for Little Star Jun 2016 #4
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #5
Unnnn, a loss is a loss... and facts are facts uponit7771 Jun 2016 #12
That's a stretch Android3.14 Jun 2016 #7
No, the drop went nearly percent to percent for Clinton... very small amount went green uponit7771 Jun 2016 #13
Hahahahahaha! brush Jun 2016 #15
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. Having Warren with us really made it unnecessary to beg for an endorsement
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jun 2016

At this point I see no influence for him

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
2. +1, He's losing whatever influence that he could've had by holding out for the perfect over the good
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jun 2016

... or adequate.

Don't understand his position now

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
3. I am a Sanders supporter
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 03:34 PM
Jun 2016

I am not going to lie, I am still disappointed that he didn't win but I fully support Clinton, She won, the people that voted in the Democratic primary spoke, Hillary is the nominee, and Sanders has said as much
I am very excited that this election could seriously wound the conservative party. The former Sanders supporters that will support Trump aren't Dems, Liberals or progressives
they are prob moderate Repubs, that are going back to their tent to support the repub nominee

PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
6. Your last sentence
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jun 2016

Hopefully, this election won't just wound the GOP. This could be the coup de grace for this disgraceful, deceitful and un-American band of scum.

Also, I respect your honesty about your position, gabeana. It's always hard to take it when your candidate loses but your mature response could set the tone for others. We need to elect Democrats at all levels of government in order to deal that fatal blow to the Republicans.

Meanwhile, enjoy the fourth!

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
8. I hope it destroys them
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jun 2016

but after the 64' election it looked like they were destroyed but the the assholes came back with a vengeance and we are just now finally moving away from the bullshit conservative agenda

PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
16. The long view of history
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 04:14 PM
Jun 2016

The difference between 1964 and now is vast. Keep in mind that in those days, Republicans and Democrats mostly worked together to run our country. Although they had serious disagreements about policies, for the most part they did their jobs and kept the country functioning.

Today, we have a vast chasm between the parties and the Republicans have repeatedly demonstrated that they don't want to govern. They don't want to do anything for our country. They don't pass bills. They don't hold hearings on presidential appointments. They shut down the government. The Democrats try to function but their power is limited by their minority status. Our president has had to take extraordinary steps just to keep the lights on in DC.

Back in '64, Barry Goldwater didn't really represent the majority of Republicans, many of whom were quite moderate. I'm sure you've heard it said that if he were alive today, Dwight Eisenhower would be a liberal Democrat. (wink) But the conservative movement, mostly led by William F. Buckley, Jr. among others, hadn't yet matured into a powerful national force. Since 1980, we've had to fight the Dark Side of American politics and we've lost far too many battles over those years. The success of the conservatives has allowed them to become more and more extreme which is a big part of why they are fracturing: their coalition has finally shown its cracks.

One other point about the 1964 election. It's always struck me that the US had lost its president to an assassin only a year before. Perhaps the electorate wasn't ready for that amount of political instability in such a short time. President Johnson really didn't have to work up much of a sweat to defeat Senator Goldwater. Today, the polarization of our nation means that Secretary Clinton could have more of a challenge on her hands.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
4. I won't be holding my breath for
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jun 2016

his endorsement of Hillary but I'd applaud him if he did so in a timely manner.

Response to uponit7771 (Original post)

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
7. That's a stretch
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jun 2016

""20 percent of Sanders supporters said they would back Trump over Clinton in the general election” in a poll conducted last month. Now that number is down sharply to only 8 percent, which means the progressive wing of the party is getting behind the woman who is seeking to become the first female president in United States history."

A drop in claims to vote for Trump does not mean the vote now goes to Clinton. That message is more propaganda.

This is not an "xor" choice. I know of many Bernie supporters who are sitting this one out rather than participate in what many believe is an eight-year extension to a do-nothing government and worsening conditions for everyone. Low voter turnout favors Trump.

If she pivots to the right, it will only become worse. The only reason I'm paying attention is for the possibility of a Warren VP choice.

brush

(53,740 posts)
15. Hahahahahaha!
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jun 2016
. . . many believe is an eight-year extension to a do-nothing government and worsening conditions for everyone. Low voter turnout favors Trump.


You're serious with that?
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