2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTim Kaine as VP? Please, just say "hell no!"
http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Tim_Kaine_Abortion.htmKaine on abortion:
Promote abstinence; ban partial-birth abortion
I will reduce abortion in Virginia by enforcing current Virginia restrictions, passing an enforceable ban on partial-birth abortion, ensuring womens access to health care (including legal contraception), and promoting abstinence-focused education and adoption. We should reduce abortion in this manner, rather than by criminalizing women and doctors.
Source: Campaign website www.kaine2005.org, Issues , Nov 8, 2005
Tim Kaine:
"I HAVE A FAITH BASED OPPOSITION TO ABORTION. " (caps mine).
FSogol
(45,481 posts)That is in no way, "anti-abortion." His views are no different than Joe Biden's.
lamp_shade
(14,828 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)citing his personal religious views as reason. Joe helped get DOMA passed. The way Joe tells it now, he's always been a champion of LGBT. He claims that he told his children we love just like others but he voted that we should be denied rights. So he is not very honest about his own actions and thus when folks like that say 'I am too ethical to let my personal views get in the way' I know they will let their personal views dictate and then they will just claim they did not.
They say 'I'm with you' then they vote against you then later they say 'I was always with you'. This is the pattern with the 'faith based' politicians.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)he's a boring choice and did a crappy job as head of the DNC (see the 2010 election debacle...)
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Response to rateyes (Original post)
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itsrobert
(14,157 posts)We can do better.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)while probably not as stupid as abstinence-only, is still a crock. Young people need genuine information about sex, sexuality, reproduction, and birth control.
States that teach abstinence-only have the highest rates of unwed mothers and unwanted pregnancies.
Anti-choice people also seem to think that if they only outlaw abortion, then no woman will ever have one.
Pathwalker
(6,598 posts)No anti-choice candidate, please.
LynnTTT
(362 posts)If we're going to have boring let's go with O'Malley. Strong on gun control, death penalty and plays in a band!
John Poet
(2,510 posts)CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)@ http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/hillary-clinton-2016-vp-pick-tim-kaine-213997
(It was probably already posted.)
mythology
(9,527 posts)While I don't think he would push to do away with abortion, I think abstinence focused sex ed is just dumb. And I'm not a fan of supporting coal power plants.
Clinton could do worse, but she could also do better.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)I'm not sure what the recent love affair is with Tim Kaine by center-left Democrats...he's not one of you, he's actually a conservative Democrat and well to the right of center as well as well to the right of Clinton...a Kaine selection literally reads as "I feel I'm going to lose and I need to do everything I can to get Republicans to cross the aisle for me." That's not the situation on the ground at-all...this election is Clinton's to lose; it's nearly a total structural EC defeat for Trump, meaning he almost has no EC path to victory.
Add into that the absolutely horrible job he did as party chairman...I mean DWS is bad at her job, but compared to Kaine she looks like Howard Dean. (Dean was great at that job.) Also, his out-of-line with the establishment of the Democratic party position on social issues and we have a real winner of a VP candidate. Kaine is by-far the worst Democrat to have their name in VP discussions since Joe Lieberman.
The only good thing about a Kaine selection is that McAuliffe will almost by default be forced to replace him with someone more-liberal because there aren't any prominent VA Democrats even as conservative as Kaine, let alone more conservative. Webb as a replacement Senator would be to the left of Kaine...and James Webb is unabashedly a conservative Democrat in his own right.
spooky3
(34,440 posts)The focus of VP speculation? Warner would bring the business background that might appeal to some.
Both Kaine and Warner are middle of the road types (Virginia outside of urban areas and college towns is still pretty red).
Night Watchman
(743 posts)He's got Virginia Pol Disease. Probably caught it from McDonnell.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)No, thanks.
But he is from a swing state, so not an awful choice in that regard.