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Thu Jun 30, 2016, 03:33 PM

It would appear that Clinton has won the California primary

As of the latest updates:

Clinton - 2,685,515
Sanders - 2,281,273

Unprocessed ballots - 367,556

While we don't know the final spread yet, it is now mathematically impossible for Sanders to win.

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Reply It would appear that Clinton has won the California primary (Original post)
LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 OP
still_one Jun 2016 #1
Ken Burch Jun 2016 #4
SaschaHM Jun 2016 #5
SidDithers Jun 2016 #6
LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #9
still_one Jun 2016 #10
MineralMan Jun 2016 #2
RobertEarl Jun 2016 #3
LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #8
politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #15
grossproffit Jul 2016 #19
SidDithers Jun 2016 #7
Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #11
MoonRiver Jun 2016 #13
Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #16
Hortensis Jun 2016 #12
Her Sister Jun 2016 #14
Cha Jun 2016 #17
Her Sister Jul 2016 #18
NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #20
Retrograde Jul 2016 #21
LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #23
MoonRiver Jul 2016 #22
Her Sister Jul 2016 #24

Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 03:35 PM

1. so much for the talking point that SF and LA had turned. Now back to the other talking point, how

every primary Hillary won was fraudulent


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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 05:45 PM

4. SF and LA counties did turn...it just was't enough to overcome HRC's overall lead.

 

And this whole thread is about "refighting the primaries".

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 05:48 PM

6. No. They didn't....

Clinton won both SF and LA counties.

Sid

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 05:56 PM

9. Nope

Clinton leads in LA county by 142,132 votes, with only 62,110 ballots remaining to be counted.

Clinton leads in SF county by 16,765 votes, with all ballots counted.


How can it be "refighting the primaries" when it is just a report on the ongoing vote tally?

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:48 PM

10. You are correct on both points. However, on the first point I was specifically alluding to a

video that was posted a few days ago, which indicated something that actually hadn't occurred.

To your second point, no question about it, the sparing, and "reliving the primaries", is still occurring.


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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 03:35 PM

2. So it appears. Much of the remaining uncounted

votes are in Los Angeles County and will probably reflect Hillary's win in that county already.

Finally, the primaries are truly over. The percentages changed very little, really.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 05:41 PM

3. That's crazy

 

It took this long to count the votes? And they are not done yet? WTF?

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 05:54 PM

8. Many of the ballots counted over the last week have been ones that have to be counted by hand,

and they've been counting over 100,000 of them per day.

What do you want them to do, wave a magic wand?

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:01 PM

15. Exactly, and there is a process by which they are opened and recorded. As I recall there are

observers from each major party as well.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 10:56 AM

19. Hand counted. They have to check signatures & make sure they didn't vote elsewhere.

You'd be surprised by how many people submit absentee ballots and also vote on election day.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 05:49 PM

7. But the guy with a bullhorn...

in that video told something different!

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:52 PM

11. hahaha

 

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:58 PM

13. And how can a bullhorn be wrong??

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:05 PM

16. Trump Numnuts Hyping The Croud?

Hmmm?

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:53 PM

12. Whatever. We always knew this would be the case.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:59 PM

14. CA latest: HRC: 2,688,681 53.6% BS: 2,285,852 45.5% Unprocessed: 367,556

 

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:56 PM

17. Good to know! Thank you, LongtimeAZDem~

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 10:47 AM

18. CA latest: HRC: 2,713,259 53.4% BS: 2,326,030 45.7% Unprocessed: 287,782

 

Difference b/w HRC&BS is 390,229 votes.

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/

http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/statewide-elections/2016-primary/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf


As of 7/1/2016 6:21 p.m & 4:55 p.m respectively. Maybe less unprocessed?

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 11:00 AM

20. For every vote flipped, Bernie gains 1 and Hillary loses 1. She

 

doesn't stay at the same number regardless, so there's that. Not that it matters one way or the other, but your math isn't truly accurate.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #20)

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 12:08 PM

21. There are still 240K ballots still to be countedin CA

The OP is talking about additional votes for Sanders or Clinton (or Johnson or Kasich or Stein or whomever), not about flipping already counted votes. These are mainly provisional ballots and mail-in ballots, which require individual inspection.

Actually, per the Secretary of State's website a lot of those may already have been processed but certain counties (yeah, I'm looking at you, Humboldt) haven't updated their results in some time. The election isn't expected to be certified until mid-July.

Why keep counting when the Democratic and Republican slates already have a clear winner? Well, as of today, the top two candidates on the American Independent slate are separated by about 800 votes. Then there are all the other races on the June ballot. And California makes a point of counting all the valid votes.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #20)

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 01:55 PM

23. No votes are being flipped. The counting has continued, and both Clinton and Sanders have

increased their totals; however, there are too few ballots left to be counted for Sanders to overtake Clinton and win California. There was nothing wrong with my math.

What's more, the remaining ballots are not just for the Democratic primary, but also the Republican, and state races, so not only could Sanders not win if he got every single remaining vote, but he can't even get every single remaining vote.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 12:12 PM

22. Happy this is wrapping up and no surprise that she still wins.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 07:59 AM

24. Finall tally!!! 7.1 percentage points and 33 Pledged dels! HRC wins!

 

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