An amazing article about Hillary's accomplishments for transgender people at State

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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/hillary-clinton-2016-transgender-rights-passport-policy-state-department-lgbt-equality-214007#ixzz4DBUmLUZ6

It’s not a label typically associated with the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee. Over her quarter-century of national public life, Clinton mostly has enjoyed broad support from LGBT voters, donors and activists, but many of them considered her a laggard on the litmus-test issue of marriage equality, which she didn’t endorse until 2013. And during her surprisingly drawn-out primary fight with Senator Bernie Sanders, Clinton consistently was cast as the more centrist candidate. Sanders, not Clinton, was the full-throated social revolutionary.
But five years before the Supreme Court ruled in favor of same-sex marriage and President Obama lit up the White House in the colors of the rainbow, Hillary Clinton and her staff at the State Department made a change that for thousands of people was exactly that—revolutionary. Clinton enacted a new rule making it easier for transgender people to register their identities on their passports. Sexual reassignment surgery was no longer necessary; all that was required was a doctor’s note. At the time, this was the most pro-transgender action by the federal government ever, and—coming a full six years before the Pentagon announced


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[GeorgiaPeanuts]

1. I'm not often congratulatory of Clinton, but...

in this case kudos to her because often in the LGBT community the Transgendered get left behind in the shuffle. Even in the HRC (Human Rights Campaign) transgender rights don't get treated as strongly as lesbian/gay issues do.

So for once you'll see me for Hilary, but I still am miffed at her weathervane behavior with regard to marriage equality.

[seabeyond]

5. Same exact weather vane mentality as Sanders behavior. Are you "miffed" by Sanders weathervane

behavior on marriage equality?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

13. Didn't happen, but nice peddling of discredited David Brock smears...

I find David Brock talking points to be as equally reprehensible as Republican talking points; heck if you lined all of them up you'd be hard pressed to determine whether a talking point was from a Repuke or from David Brock.

[seabeyond]

14. In this campaign, Sanders stated he had always been for marriage equality. Fact....

2000 he was asked, point blank and he refused to answer. In 2006 he stated it would cause too much chaos.

2009. He came out for marriage equality.

These are facts. Facts matter to me and are my arguments.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

15. Puhlease....

http://www.queerty.com/5-times-bernie-sanders-was-championed-our-cause-before-it-was-popular-20160131

And I'm not sure why you conflate whether unions or full equality that you fail to understand that it had to start somewhere. When he pushed for unions LGBT were not better treated like now. I can walk anywhere in my city and not worry about getting bashed. And frankly I don't need someone straight telling me where candidates stand on the LGBT issues, thanks.

[seabeyond]

16. "Puhlease...." Come on. Really? Kerry, Clinton, Democrats pushed for union in 2004. Lbgt clobbered

them. As they deserved. I found it one of the bigger lessons for me, that has carried with me to this day, and has made significant changes in my life when listening to any oppressed group speak.

So, what was your point?

[Silver_Witch]

2. Progressive about some things - no so about others.

Darn leaked emails. Secure server might have served well. This is why they should be secure.

“Who made the decision that State will not use the terms ‘mother and father’ and instead substitute ‘parent one and two’?
“I’m not defending that decision, which I disagree w and knew nothing about, in front of this Congress.
“I could live w letting people in nontraditional families choose another descriptor so long as we retained the presumption of mother and father.”


http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/10/01/hillary-clinton-tried-to-block-gay-inclusive-passports-emails-reveal/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-same-sex-passports_us_560c68e6e4b076812700bf06

Just saying...be careful what you send via email - it lives forever!!

[pnwmom]

3. Big deal.

Not.

For your info, even gay parents call themselves mothers and fathers. Not "parent 1" and "parent 2."

[Silver_Witch]

6. I know nothing is a big deal....

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For example in homes where there are two moms in a family one always refers to herself as the father eh?

And we are talking about a passport - not the living room where parents refer to themselves as mothers and fathers. You are also being disingenuous as you know she was referring to the fact that same sex parents was not something she wanted to defend to "congress".

Sorry have never understood how she had to evolve on Gay Marriage or how Marriage is scared and only between a man and a woman. I am her age and never had to evolve to understand that Love is Love and gender/genitals have nothing to do with it.

[seabeyond]

7. Sanders, Kerry, Obama ALL had to 'evolve'. You get that, right?

[Silver_Witch]

19. I totally get that...didn't care for Kerry either - still voted for him

President Obama was more evolved just not politically motivated - or perhaps concerned about reaction to him by others. He NEVER gave a speech that stated emphatically that God did not like same sex couples...or that "marriage between a man and woman are scared".

I expect more from Presidents then I often get...such is life eh. That said I am not going to "lie" about a candidate. She is going to be President...that is a fact. I will however continue to push for her to continue her evolution and represent the Democrats she claims she cares about.

[seabeyond]

21. And Sanders had no conviction, he simply thought marriage equality would be too chaotic.

You forgot one I see. Consistently. As you rake others over the coal. Imagine that.

[pnwmom]

23. He also said that he thought it should be a states' rights issue,

and that civil unions were what Vermont had chosen to have.

[seabeyond]

24. Yes he did. That may have been abother time that he argued against marriage equality. I cannot

remember. It is amazing the number of issues they beat Clinton up with, while Sander was right there next to Clinton and they conveniently ignore or justify Sanders same positions.

[pnwmom]

8. Well, isn't that just wonderful of you. You never had to represent millions

of people in the Senate, however, many of whom had different views than you.

And it is not true that "same sex parents was not something she wanted to defend to "congress". She never opposed same sex parents.

[oasis]

11. +1

[pnwmom]

20. You don't have to be married to become same sex parents.

Millions of LGBT parents prove otherwise.

And Hillary never opposed same-sex adoption.

[SaschaHM]

10. No, she didn't want to defend getting rid of "mother and father" wholesale in exchange for "parent 1

and parent 2".


What's disingenuous is you reading something bigoted into it, when it fact it's just a decision regarding passport classifications for ALL couples. Someone signed off of getting rid of "mother and father" and Hillary argued for keeping it and having another descriptor for same-sex families.

[pnwmom]

12. Yes. You are precisely right. n/t

[Silver_Witch]

17. Link to that please...thank you.

I am not disingenuous at all. Please educate me.

[pnwmom]

22. Please link to her "huge speech against same sex marriage based on her religious zealotry."

Her millions of LGBTQ supporters will be very interested.

[Hekate]

4. Did you hear Rachel Maddow the other night on the subject of Obama's monumental progress?

Using the US military -- the world's largest employer, according to Dr Maddow -- POTUS Obama step by solid step pushed the LGBT agenda farther than it has ever gone, thus pushing the rest of the federal government, thus pushing the rest of society.

Meanwhile over at State, SoS Clinton was not asking for permission to do what she was doing, and went ahead and took care of the passports, among other things.

He's with Her, and She's with Him. Good team.

[MaggieD]

9. I've been trying to tell people here this for a year

As an activist on this issue I can't think of another politician in the last 15 years who has been so consistently, effectively supportive of the LGBT community.

Elizabeth Edwards also comes to mind, but she never held as much sway as Hillary.