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LAS14

(13,781 posts)
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:51 AM Jul 2016

Globalization and the Democratic platform.

I've long been a supporter of globalization because I see it as a necessary step to bringing more income equality to people across the world. Rich countries need to share the wealth.

But after the Michigan primary I developed a lot more sympathy for the position that globalization is being pushed forward by corporations and the elite and that the working classes in developed countries are being asked to pay the price.

So my position now is that globalization must continue to move forward, but equal attention needs to be paid to safety nets (more socialization? yeah) for the people in developed countries who are being hurt by the process.

Does anyone else hold this (to me eminently sensible) idea? I haven't seen it expressed in exactly this way. Also, to me it seems too complex to put in to a party platform. Can some genius who agrees with me come up with language?

tia
las

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fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
1. Globalization will happpen like it or not..
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jul 2016

We can avoid a Brexit situation if we make our country more diverse.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
3. The problem is while it was sold as a benefit to all, the all weren't consulted and the benefit is
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jul 2016

is strictly restricted to the few who are imposing their own vision on a globalized economic system that is not subject to any controls from the people via their various governments.

So yes, linking the economies is a way to prevent wars, but limiting control to a few and denying the rights of the 7 billion and failing to preserve and protect our own home planet is all about suppression and oppression.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
4. I agree with you. Sweden, Canada, Germany are all more 'globalized' than the US in the sense that
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:15 AM
Jul 2016

international trade is a much bigger part of their economies than it is in the US. And they all pay more attention to their "safety nets" so the 'pain' and the 'gain' are more equally shared.

Your proposal makes sense but it may be too nuanced to please folks who may prefer an 'all or nothing' position rather than a complicated (though sensible) policy even one that can be shown to actually work. The "ALL" and the "NOTHING" voices can be much louder.

katsy

(4,246 posts)
5. Interesting read for you
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jul 2016
http://ritholtz.com/2016/06/dani-rodrik-on-the-downsides-of-globalization/

There's nothing wrong with globalization. It's just that it only works for the elite. Trade deals can be fixed but it takes political will and that means big $ needs to get out of politics. Good luck with that.

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
6. Globalization turns out to be how to bring down US wages to meet 3rd world conditions.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jul 2016

Sold as a way to lift up other countries peoples, it was a sham.

By and large, the countries that have been kissed by western capitalism/globalism have caught terminal diseases.

Monsanto products are a great example.

Further, there could be no globalization without monumental exploitation of fossil fuels and the consequential damage to the environment.

I disagree: to look far enough down the road is to reject globalization outright, not to say that "it must continue to move forward".

It has never moved forward, it has only served to worsen conditions for regular people here and over there and causes irrevocable shifts in cultures and stability.

Not all progress is progress, not all technology and trade and economic activity. Some of it is downright deadly.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
7. The fact that countries play one population against the other is the problem.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:44 AM
Jul 2016

Even in the US various locations take taxpayer money and give it to companies to locate in their region.

So essentially the taxpayers are paying for their own jobs.

Many times when the tax credits run out the companies move on.

What we need is a global labor movement that can shut down businesses with strikes and bring a country to a standstill when stuff like is going on now happens.

However even on this forum people are afraid to ask for a decent min wage so not sure that will happen.
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
8. That's my position.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jul 2016

Opposing "globalization" is like ordering the tides not to come in. Instead, we must ensure we are prepared for the tides, and ensure we are looking after our folks affected by those tides.

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