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Clinton +6 in the latest USA Today general election Poll (Original Post) woolldog Jul 2016 OP
Sounds about right. Still way too close. Unbelievable. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #1
Never, ever underestimate the power of well-funded propaganda. That's what's driving her BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #13
She'll win by around 8 points RandySF Jul 2016 #2
^^^^^^^^^ Peacetrain Jul 2016 #4
Even 8 points seems way to close considering her opponent. Trump has to be the absolute floriduck Jul 2016 #5
^^^ THIS ^^^ HumanityExperiment Jul 2016 #6
When's the last time a presidential poll had a candidate up by double digits? KMOD Jul 2016 #7
I'm just saying there is no conceivable reason a racist bigot with zero political experience is only floriduck Jul 2016 #10
The country is deeply polarized. KMOD Jul 2016 #12
There's no conceivable reason..... RandySF Jul 2016 #19
It makes sense because, outside of the dem base, Hillary is well over 50% unfavorable. thesquanderer Jul 2016 #22
Trump makes Romney look like Reagan NWCorona Jul 2016 #15
Our most recent Presidential races have KMOD Jul 2016 #18
Rs have about a 40% floor just like we do. whatthehey Jul 2016 #27
Trump's ceiling seems to be 40% realmirage Jul 2016 #3
yup! KMOD Jul 2016 #8
Yes! Yes! YES! eom BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #9
This is a very important point and it's a threshold he mustn't be allowed to pass NWCorona Jul 2016 #16
+1, 40% is the GOP floor and now he's going to dip below that uponit7771 Jul 2016 #17
people are still buying into all the lies about Hillary MariaThinks Jul 2016 #11
Once the FBI officially clears Hillary of any legal issues these numbers will jump. DCBob Jul 2016 #14
Rasmussen was an outlier Rapidly Jul 2016 #20
Not even an outlier, smoking crack... JCMach1 Jul 2016 #23
Chilly rainy March seemed like MFM008 Jul 2016 #21
Excellent! Looks like the concerns about tightening last week was overblown Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #24
Well as noted in the linked article... woolldog Jul 2016 #25
That was a few months ago though Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #26
Rasmussen was an outlier Rapidly Jul 2016 #28

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
13. Never, ever underestimate the power of well-funded propaganda. That's what's driving her
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jul 2016

numbers down. Thirty years of lies and innuendo made into truth has taken root with too many Americans who should know better.

Also, never underestimate the power of commercial polls getting the results the clients of said polls have paid for.

So, for me, it's not unbelievable. It's par for the course in a country that's been inundated with lies and made-up scandals by a complicit M$M and moneyed interests who don't believe in socialism unless it's to the exclusive benefit of the already powerful and wealthy.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
5. Even 8 points seems way to close considering her opponent. Trump has to be the absolute
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:04 PM
Jul 2016

worst presidential candidate in modern history or longer. She should be well into a double digit lead.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
6. ^^^ THIS ^^^
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jul 2016

Historic unfavorables are the cause imo... why folks here aren't addressing this and figuring out the 'why' and finding solutions to that 'why' continues to baffle me

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
7. When's the last time a presidential poll had a candidate up by double digits?
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jul 2016

She is leading t-Rump by a bigger margin than President Obama led R-Money at this point.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
10. I'm just saying there is no conceivable reason a racist bigot with zero political experience is only
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jul 2016

trailing one of the most experienced candidates alive by 6 or so points. It just doesn't make sense.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
12. The country is deeply polarized.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jul 2016

It also defies logic that t-Rump is the republican nominee, and yet, there he is.

RandySF

(58,660 posts)
19. There's no conceivable reason.....
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jul 2016

1. That an OB/GYN who sterilized women without their consent would be elected to the Senate, but he was.
2. That a Congressman would be re-elected after admitting to forcing a mistress to get an abortion. But he was.
3. That a sitting senator who pretty much admitting to screwing hooker while wearing a diaper would be re-elected. But he was.
4. That a Republican who pleaded the Fifth to Congress on Medicare fraud would not only be nominated Gov. of Florida, but elected. But he was.


Welcome to today's Republican Party.

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
22. It makes sense because, outside of the dem base, Hillary is well over 50% unfavorable.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jul 2016

I think sometimes people here have a skewed image of what people outside the bubble think. There are lots of people out there who just can't stand Hillary.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
18. Our most recent Presidential races have
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jul 2016

tended to be close in the polls. Her margin is actually larger than other previous candidates.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
27. Rs have about a 40% floor just like we do.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jul 2016

I'd vote for a wacky D candidate over a Republican any day, because I consider the danger of Republicanism worse than the personal peccadilloes of any Dem. There are many Republicans who return the sentiment. That's all we are seeing.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
3. Trump's ceiling seems to be 40%
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jul 2016

He never gets above that, while Hillary has actually hit 50 a couple of times. A good sign.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
14. Once the FBI officially clears Hillary of any legal issues these numbers will jump.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jul 2016

That should be next week or soon thereafter.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
21. Chilly rainy March seemed like
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jul 2016

Yesterday.
Here it is chilly rainy July 4 in
western Washington State.
Labor day 2 months away.
The trees will be turning.........
Election day will be here in no time..
(like March to july)
Rumpel may get a bump out of the coming circus..
tRumpstravaganza.
but she will regain the lead
when we become the adults in the room in 3 weeks.
I still believe she wins by 5 to 10 points.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
24. Excellent! Looks like the concerns about tightening last week was overblown
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jul 2016

Time to celebrate! 6 pack, fireworks, and no work tomorrow, goddamn sweet

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
25. Well as noted in the linked article...
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 05:37 PM
Jul 2016

the previous USA today poll had Clinton up double digits. So the race has narrowed, but the +6 result is in line with all the other polls, so it looks solid.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
26. That was a few months ago though
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jul 2016

All of the polls back then showed a massive lead for Sanders and Clinton. If it went from 11 points or whatever to 6 in the last week that would be concerning. Not really that big of a deal in this case.

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