2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Hillary Clinton's perfect running mate is... Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton is in the process of whittling down her vice presidential shortlist. But if she's looking to truly rout Trump in November, she ought to consider one old hand who is almost never mentioned: Joe Biden.
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The current vice president is universally known, vetted, and unquestionably fit to serve. As America's affable "Uncle Joe," he is viewed positively by 51 percent of the country and unfavorably by just 36 percent. He's absolutely beloved by Democrats, helping to shore up the Sanders-Warren wing of the party. And he has already proven to be an able complement to a candidate who, like Clinton, sometimes struggles to connect viscerally and emotionally with voters. He also appears to absolutely love being vice president, and is good at the job.
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But Biden would reinforce Clinton's strongest claim to the Oval Office, doubling down on unparalleled experience while adding a warm blue-collar familiarity. As Democrats look to assemble a November landslide, a Clinton-Biden ticket would heighten this election's core contrast: a choice between being governed by the steady hand of the adults on the Democratic side, or by the unserious, unpredictable child put forward by the GOP.
http://theweek.com/articles/632603/why-hillary-clintons-perfect-running-mate-joe-biden
Squinch
(50,949 posts)considerations not unlike those that existed for Obama, but in her case there are even more restrictions because she is the wife of a former president.
It is imperative that she proceeds as clearly her own person. She cannot seem to be giving any decisions by default to any powerful man that preceded her. She cannot allow herself to be seen as a continuation of anyone else's administration, especially Obama's or Bill's. She needs to make sure she is seen as the only hand on the helm of her administration.
I like Joe, but this would not be a good choice.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)who want the reassurance of this tall, personable man from the previous administration backstopping her.
I understand electing a woman, and one who's been the target of 25 years of character assassination, is a big change, but imo she is more competent than Biden ever was, and she certainly won't be the squish in the hands of the Republican leadership that he was.
Can anyone imagine her caving to right wing propaganda and giving Clarence Thomas a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court? Senator Biden actually commented in public that he felt he came out of that without serious damage to his personal image.
Even if it were desirable to her, him, and the electorate--all highly unlikely, he's turning 74 in November, would be 82 by the end of the second term, if he lasted that long.
I like him, everybody does, and that Obama chose to work closely with him says a lot, but no.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)She wants to put Bill in charge of the economy and return it to the days of Bill.
Obama is saying that she's the one best positioned to continue his policies.
You can't have it both ways.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Bucky
(53,997 posts)to show who's gonna be in charge. It's the president. Shit, even when it was Bush-Cheney, the Veep deferred to the President.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)scenes...
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)If that's the case, then we nominated a liar.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)a continuation of Obama's presidency and plans on deferring to Bill when it comes to the economy.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Is she a continuation of the Obama presidency as both her and Obama say?
If so, then she's undermining your argument.
If not, then all these stump speeches are pure pandering.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)he will bring any undecided voters. She needs someone new.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)We need VP who has a longer life expectency. We need to be thinking about the future and expanding the bench beyond boomers. It would also be good to have a VP who would run in 2024
FSogol
(45,476 posts)After 8 years, do you really think Biden wants to continue as VP?
Relax, HRC will make a good choice and we'll have a have a VP we all like as much as Biden.
JustAnotherGen
(31,811 posts)I think those two tolerated each other - because they both respected someone who respected both of them.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)Had circumstances been different, Joe would have run for president and very likely would have been the presumptive nominee. I can't image that after his long and distinguished career, he would want to be VP for four or eight more years.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)MineralMan
(146,286 posts)First, because Hillary needs her own, unique VP candidate and second, because Joe Biden wouldn't be interested in playing second fiddle for another President. I suspect he wants to retire.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Joe is a good guy, but not as a career VP.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Not to mention, Hillary is going to need a VP considerably younger than she is because, well, just in case. Which is why Warren is probably out of the running. Not to mention she should stay in the Senate.
More to the point, she's going to want someone who is aligned with her on all of the issues that matter. Someone willing to stump enthusiastically for her and then more or less disappear from view except for certain ceremonial occasions.
jalan48
(13,859 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)Lance Bass esquire
(671 posts)but hes looking tired.
Time to relax and let someone else take the reigns.
Joe is a good man.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)and hope he will have a significant role in the next administration. He made it quite clear that he did not want to be a Supreme Court Justice, maybe Secretary of State, something he was interested in before he was chosen Obama's VP.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)preferably under 50 and not white if at all possible?
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Aside from whether he'd even want it, what does he bring to the table that she doesn't have?
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Time for someone new, imo.