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nolabear

(41,959 posts)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:31 PM Jul 2016

If I was Hillary here's what I'd say:

GAWD I'm going to both laugh and cry at the "the system is rigged" bullshit and the "she's crooked" lies sliding over into "she's irresponsible" and "she's got bad judgment" shots-in-the-dark.

Here's my thought on what she should say:

"Out of 30,000 emails we made 150 mistakes (maybe in percentages, which are minuscule) during a time when use of personal devices was a far more new and untested manner of communication. The world has since learned and so have I. You can bet that this past issue has resulted in my security being among the most carefully maintained of anyone on the planet's and though I'm deeply sorry for having made those few mistakes I believe the outcome has made me even more aware of how important it is to have a team around me that is at the forefront of technology and security. Together we move forward."

Other ideas?

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If I was Hillary here's what I'd say: (Original Post) nolabear Jul 2016 OP
That's pretty good. Thumbs up. Hekate Jul 2016 #1
LOL, I'd be thinking exactly that. nolabear Jul 2016 #4
Very good. Justice Jul 2016 #12
Ha... sheshe2 Jul 2016 #15
That's really good! PearliePoo2 Jul 2016 #2
LOL Justice Jul 2016 #13
Very nice thought. BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #3
Oh I know. But in the real world of Presidential politics you have to take some course. nolabear Jul 2016 #5
Yours is a nicer one BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #9
Nicely put. MariaThinks Jul 2016 #6
No, I would not go there. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #7
Maybe. I just saw toward Dean say he wasn't sure they were marked classified. nolabear Jul 2016 #16
That's why I would stress that some of the requirements have changed. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #17
That's... basically what happened, heh. joshcryer Jul 2016 #8
"I'm not in a multi-million dollar fraud lawsuit." CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #10
You might get Huma Abedins job now.That was good. SummerSnow Jul 2016 #11
If I were Hillary Clinton, here's what I would say: BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #14
The key, which you addressed, is the newness of the technology during the time she was SOS. eastwestdem Jul 2016 #18

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
1. That's pretty good. Thumbs up.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:33 PM
Jul 2016

Deep down inside she might be thinking: "....and you can also kiss my ass." But she would never say it.

Justice

(7,185 posts)
12. Very good.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jul 2016

I have been saying for a while that I thought the historical part has been removed from the discussion.


What we did 8 years ago and what technology could do 8 years is totally different than what we do today in terms of devices, wireless access, encryption, remote working etc.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
2. That's really good!
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jul 2016

Then she can add at the end, " Oh and Donald, you're making an ass of yourself...delete your account. "

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
3. Very nice thought.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jul 2016


But I am afraid that there is literally NOTHING that Hillary can do or say that will satisfy the haters. That is simply NOT possible. They are deranged. I've seen the same bunch since 1992 and, if anything, they've gotten worse. They're like the Hounds of Hell without a Master.

F***'em all is what I say.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
5. Oh I know. But in the real world of Presidential politics you have to take some course.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jul 2016

She's going to have to deal with this in debates and interviews for months. Might as well set a course now.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
9. Yours is a nicer one
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jul 2016

than mine and I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary did something like it!

But that is one of a thousand - nay, a million - reasons why Hillary will be President in November while I would never have made it!

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. No, I would not go there.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:39 PM
Jul 2016

Not with the FBI confirming actual marked classified material was discussed in that system.

No, I would just go with 'All our systems are now fully compliant with the Government in the Sunshine Act for records keeping and public disclosure, as well as State Department, DIA, FBI, etc, classified material handling rules.'.

The private sector equivalent would be HIPAA and or Sarbanes-Oxley compliance.

Because that's all that really went wrong here. Standards were not adhered to. Records were not kept. Classified material was handled in a location it should not have been. No criminal malfeasance, so it's just important to stress that lessons were learned. The 'only 150' angle is a bad idea.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
16. Maybe. I just saw toward Dean say he wasn't sure they were marked classified.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:34 PM
Jul 2016

Yes, classified but were they marked that way? It might be a fine point but it's an important one. He said he wanted to see the transcript, which I expect will be fine-toothed in the coming days.

Your point is well taken though. The only argument I see is "Well how do we trust you now if we couldn't before?"

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
17. That's why I would stress that some of the requirements have changed.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:40 PM
Jul 2016

The sunshine act is new. I would stick to the 'we learned, we meet current standards', etc.

Granted, there isn't a current standard for her to comply with at the moment, not being in the S.D. anymore.

The statement said they were classified, which I don't think matters if they were 'marked' or not. Not for the purposes of the law. But intent does matter. No criminal intent, so done deal there. No charges.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
14. If I were Hillary Clinton, here's what I would say:
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jul 2016

"To quote the modern poet T-Pain: 'All I do is win, win, win, no matter what!'"

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
18. The key, which you addressed, is the newness of the technology during the time she was SOS.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:55 PM
Jul 2016

People totally seem to overlook this fact. Think back to what you were using in 2009. I remember that many of the groups I belong to still had printed out member lists with contact information back then, and only about half of the people had email addresses. I bet if a similar, thorough investigation of other government departments was done from that era, that similar problems would be discovered.

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