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Related: About this forumDid Comey mention how the FBI whiffed on Omar Mateen?
Mateen was in contact with a known suicide bomber.
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Did Comey mention how the FBI whiffed on Omar Mateen? (Original Post)
redstateblues
Jul 2016
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FSogol
(45,452 posts)1. I'm not a fan of Glenn Greenwald, but he's right in this case:
The FBI was right not to arrest Omar Mateen before the shooting
Citizens should not forfeit their rights if they haven't committed a crime.
Citizens should not forfeit their rights if they haven't committed a crime.
The complaint that the FBI, once it had Mateen under suspicion, should have acted more aggressively to stop him illustrates a kind of pathology. By all accounts, Mateen had committed no crime (though his ex-wife later said he had battered her). At the time the FBI decided to close its file on him, he had not joined any terrorist organization, nor attended a terror training camp, nor communicated with terror operatives about any plots. Although he boasted to office colleagues about ties to al Qaeda and Hezbollah, agents found those claims dubious. There is not, as far as we know, even evidence that he had expressed support for violence.
When the FBI has reason to suspect someone of extremist activity, they open an investigative file and gather whatever information they can. But once they conclude that there is no evidence of criminality, they close the file. Thats how it should be: none of us should want permanent inquiries into citizens without evidence of lawbreaking, and we should certainly not want punishments meted out based on unproven suspicions. The FBI followed these principles in closing its file on Mateen, and it deserves praise for that, not armchair criticism. As I would hope the American people would want, we dont keep people under investigation indefinitely, FBI Director James Comey said. If agents dont see predication for continuing it, then we close it.
When the FBI has reason to suspect someone of extremist activity, they open an investigative file and gather whatever information they can. But once they conclude that there is no evidence of criminality, they close the file. Thats how it should be: none of us should want permanent inquiries into citizens without evidence of lawbreaking, and we should certainly not want punishments meted out based on unproven suspicions. The FBI followed these principles in closing its file on Mateen, and it deserves praise for that, not armchair criticism. As I would hope the American people would want, we dont keep people under investigation indefinitely, FBI Director James Comey said. If agents dont see predication for continuing it, then we close it.
Whole article here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/17/the-fbi-was-right-not-to-arrest-omar-mateen-before-the-shooting/
brush
(53,743 posts)2. They whiffed on the Boston Marathon bomber too. The Russians warned them of that pair.
He had no business editorializing and scolding someone who "should have known better."
They knew better on those terrorists.