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LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:19 AM Jul 2016

This is what a friend is telling me about HRC being a "warmonger"

Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Kosovo, supports military action against Iran, coup in Honduras, should I go on ?

Do you *see* this crazy shit? Coup in Honduras? (Reagan anybody?) Kosovo? Peace keeping efforts in Kosovo, where we did not lose a *single* service member in combat, *and* "who elected her to anything anyway?", when she was first fucking lady.

Holy shit! (Venting is good, lol)

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zappaman

(20,605 posts)
4. I've been told that if she is elected, we will be at war within 90 days.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jul 2016

Of course, the only answer as to why is "she's a warmonger!"

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
5. They're clearly buying into the Republican propaganda machine of innuendo and half-truths in order
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jul 2016

to take down a strong and fearless Democrat - one that elected Republicans are afraid of. It's sad that people who should know better, don't know more than what tens of millions of dollars of RW propaganda has seeded in their memories - facts be damned.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. I haven't seen much Republican propaganda on the "warmonger" theme.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 02:45 PM
Jul 2016

All the Republican propaganda that points out what a catastrophic mistake we made in invading Iraq, and blasts Clinton for voting for the IWR?

All the Republican propaganda that urges a great reduction in our reliance on military force around the world, and blasts Clinton for not supporting big cuts in the Pentagon budget?

Wow, I've been missing some really interesting Republican propaganda.

The actual Republican propaganda that I expect to see this fall will include attacks on Clinton for -- wait for it -- being a socialist.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
14. Um...I clearly stated "the Republican propaganda MACHINE of innuendo and half-truths" - the same
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jul 2016

machine that, as a small example, KKKarl Rove used in New Hampshire to discourage Liberals from voting for Hillary Clinton. Five million dollars worth - and it worked! She lost to her rival by a landslide.

The fruit of the Republican propaganda machine is clearly illustrated in the OP. So yeah, maybe you did miss some really interesting Republican propaganda against Hillary Clinton.

And I doubt, seriously doubt, that they'll attack Hillary Clinton as a "socialist". Their strategy is clearly going to be to suppress turnout for Hillary Clinton among liberals, liberal-libertarians, and the far-left. Together with new voter suppression laws that are going to be used this G.E. for the first time, they're hoping to get a Republican in the White House.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
16. That they use innuendo is clear. It's this particular attack that wouldn't come easy for them.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jul 2016

As for the "socialist" thing, you're right that it wouldn't make tactical sense for them to press that charge, but I predict that they will anyway. They just can't help themselves.

Clinton and her allies blasted Bernie as calling for too many expensive government programs that would require big tax increases, but she will now find exactly same attack made against her. The effect is harder to predict. Attacks on Clinton as a "tax-and-spend liberal" will resonate with the Republican base but might emphasize, to some of Bernie's supporters, that Clinton, although to the right of Bernie, is still to the left of the extremism that's taken over the Republican Party.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
12. It gets worse:
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 02:46 PM
Jul 2016

Grasping at straws: (start quote)

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/9/hillary-clinton-honduraslatinamericaforeignpolicy.html


"Oh what's this ? Her complete record with links to every horrendous thing she has done including the only time she ever voting against or didn't vocally support military use (bush's 2007 surge) because it was expedient, then to turn around and support Obama's surge just a short time later. This is a woman who praises Kissenger a mentor. Kissenger one of the absolute worst people to ever walk the face of the earth a mentor,alas she has a knack for picking scumbags as mentors, she love Madeline "hotel Rwanda" Albright and even calling Klan leader Robert Bryd a mentor and friend"
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/hillary-clintons-war-record-100-for-genocide.html

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
17. She has some hawkish tendencies. Anyone denying that isn't living in reality.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jul 2016

But I wouldn't go as far as to say she is a "warmonger".

Also, the Kosovo operation, which Hillary had nothing to do with, was probably the right thing to do at the time.

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