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The Justice Department Speaks (Original Post) MohRokTah Jul 2016 OP
not waiting for any pronouncement from Bernie...he'll simply employ excuse #569 for holding out Sheepshank Jul 2016 #1
I dunno. It was all about DOJ. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #3
He is in a quandary, though. This is interesting. The last month we are told not about possible seabeyond Jul 2016 #4
oh , haven't you heard? it's not about Bernie running for president... puffy socks Jul 2016 #33
Ya know.... exactly and from day one. Very offensive, insulting. But anyone knows it is and still seabeyond Jul 2016 #37
Yeah. He said he was waiting (hoping) for de DoJ determination lunamagica Jul 2016 #26
Well, yea. I just read Sanders is ready to endorse. So, his last chance, not by vote but hoping our seabeyond Jul 2016 #2
Link? nolawarlock Jul 2016 #5
Not even a Please? seabeyond Jul 2016 #6
Please. :-D nolawarlock Jul 2016 #8
I'm seeing nothing on news.google.com about Sanders being ready to endorse. nolawarlock Jul 2016 #9
Yes, he was booed and he earned that boo.He has been insulting us, taking ownership of our stuff seabeyond Jul 2016 #10
Representative Connolly... tonedevil Jul 2016 #13
Are there only particular "we the people"? Because when that was suggested too, we were told seabeyond Jul 2016 #14
I was just reacting to you... tonedevil Jul 2016 #16
Yes. We.... are part of the people, too. New concept. And we .... had the strong majority of the seabeyond Jul 2016 #18
We didn't boo... tonedevil Jul 2016 #19
I have been listening to Sanders people tell me repeatedly I and all the Dems who do not support seabeyond Jul 2016 #22
I'm sorry you feel you have been... tonedevil Jul 2016 #23
Sanders was telling them, ... They are not good enough. That answers both parts of your comment. seabeyond Jul 2016 #24
I have no idea... tonedevil Jul 2016 #30
True that. Hence, calling all that didn't support him, establishment might not have been a good move seabeyond Jul 2016 #31
MSNBC said he was booed DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #50
I'm confused nolawarlock Jul 2016 #34
Right now we are in the back and forth of it. Who knows. seabeyond Jul 2016 #38
Oh ok. nolawarlock Jul 2016 #40
He's making a mockery of the whole process. nolawarlock Jul 2016 #42
It is fascinating though. I have never really been bothered he would hurt us. I do not think he seabeyond Jul 2016 #45
I do think his waffling has continued to fuel the delusion of his most vociferous fans ... nolawarlock Jul 2016 #48
I agree with everything. Further watching the last year, Clinton herself runs a damn strong campaign seabeyond Jul 2016 #53
I think I am thinking about the more broader issues in contrast of the two. seabeyond Jul 2016 #55
He also said that he was not endorsing because he was waiting for DOJ. So, department of Justice seabeyond Jul 2016 #11
Booed for saying the goal wasn't winning elections. He deserved it lunamagica Jul 2016 #27
The only people saying... tonedevil Jul 2016 #28
Regardless wether it happened or not (I believe it did) he deserved a booing lunamagica Jul 2016 #29
Of course you would... tonedevil Jul 2016 #32
Sanders just admitted on the Chris Hayes show that, in fact, he was booed lunamagica Jul 2016 #51
I don't know... tonedevil Jul 2016 #59
It will get replayed at eleven you can listen to him yourself lunamagica Jul 2016 #60
He was interviewed this early afternoon and he himself said he was booed DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #52
I just responded in... tonedevil Jul 2016 #61
heads exploding at Judicialwatch Pimping Rejects nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #7
That's the best one yet, GT! nt BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #21
hahahahahahahha! nolawarlock Jul 2016 #35
Sanders is in get off my lawn mode. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #12
Ha ha hahahahaha. You know, this is interesting to see. I wonder what else will happen. seabeyond Jul 2016 #15
Well we may be off his lawn, nolawarlock Jul 2016 #36
I encouraged my kids to walk on the grass. Preferably without shoes. Get a real feel of that lawn seabeyond Jul 2016 #39
So true! :-D nolawarlock Jul 2016 #41
Lol. It is all about the soothing. For sure. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #43
Sheesh! nolawarlock Jul 2016 #44
Oh... and all we saw in privilege and entitlement this last year, all around. As I said, seabeyond Jul 2016 #47
In that regard, yes nolawarlock Jul 2016 #49
Citizens United has been the Dems issue, Clinton and Obama since way before Sanders ever seabeyond Jul 2016 #54
Yeah, I've noticed that too. nolawarlock Jul 2016 #57
K&R mcar Jul 2016 #17
"But... but... but Obama hasn't weighed in yet! Yeah, that's the ticket! I'm waiting on Obama!" nt BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #20
See, ... SEE, you found it. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #25
Good quick response. MineralMan Jul 2016 #46
Moh MFM008 Jul 2016 #56
WTF? fifty posts and almost every one is irrelevant BULLSHIT Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #58
yay! i was worried that the doj wouldn't close the matter for weeks. unblock Jul 2016 #62
From my twitter feed Gothmog Jul 2016 #63
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. He is in a quandary, though. This is interesting. The last month we are told not about possible
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jul 2016

indictment. All about taking it to the convention "for the people".

So now what does he do? Lol.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
33. oh , haven't you heard? it's not about Bernie running for president...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:00 PM
Jul 2016

even though we just went through several agonizing months of Bernie and supporters complaining about rigging, election fraud, rigged coins, the unfair SD system, the closed primaries etc.
According to them its never been about Bernie and Bernie getting elected, it's always been all about this Progressive "revolution" to get the ordinary unenlightened average American Joes to be enlightened , using all the issues and goals and even words that Dems have been fighting tooth and nail for over the past few decades.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
37. Ya know.... exactly and from day one. Very offensive, insulting. But anyone knows it is and still
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jul 2016

that is what he campaigned on. I found it fascinating Sanders walking into a 'need' state of New York and trashing Wall street. Many of the voters have profited from wall street as far as employees, business owners, business owners employees.

I felt that a real interesting move to walk into New York City and diss New York City, while expecting their vote.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
26. Yeah. He said he was waiting (hoping) for de DoJ determination
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jul 2016

Well, there it is, Sanders. What you thought was your last hope, gone

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. Well, yea. I just read Sanders is ready to endorse. So, his last chance, not by vote but hoping our
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jul 2016

Democratic nominee goes to jail, has decided the "race" is over.

Sheeeeeit.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
9. I'm seeing nothing on news.google.com about Sanders being ready to endorse.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jul 2016

I just see him being [justifiably] booed by Democrats in Congress.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. Yes, he was booed and he earned that boo.He has been insulting us, taking ownership of our stuff
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jul 2016

for a year. So yea... they booed when he started on about the endorsing shit. We are tired of it. Not a weapon to hold over our head.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512241600

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
14. Are there only particular "we the people"? Because when that was suggested too, we were told
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jul 2016

emphatically that we included us all.

Hm

Such a quandary. Another quandary. This is interesting times, for sure.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
16. I was just reacting to you...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jul 2016

saying "we" are tired of it as though Congress had actually booed and you and they were of a like mind regarding Senator Sanders.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
18. Yes. We.... are part of the people, too. New concept. And we .... had the strong majority of the
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jul 2016

vote/voice.

We, .... Won't be excluded.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
19. We didn't boo...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jul 2016

Senator Sanders. I don't know why you need to strongly reiterate that you are part of "We The People" nor do I know who you feel was trying to exclude you. I was referring to the we that was rumored to have booed, but according to Representative Connolly, who was actually there, did not.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
22. I have been listening to Sanders people tell me repeatedly I and all the Dems who do not support
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jul 2016

Sanders and PP, NERAL, Clinton, Obama, DWS, Lewis and many many more, do not get to be included in the we because.... Oligarchy.

And if there was no boo, well, bummer. Once again, the Dems take the higher road in the face of more insults.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
23. I'm sorry you feel you have been...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jul 2016

disrespected, but that has not been my doing. It seems kind of petty to think it a bummer that Senator Sanders wasn't booed by Congressional Democrats. I guess you don't much care for the higher road you mentioned.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
24. Sanders was telling them, ... They are not good enough. That answers both parts of your comment.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jul 2016
 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
30. I have no idea...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:48 PM
Jul 2016

what exactly Senator Sanders said that you interpret as telling Congressional Democrats they are not good enough, but it brings to mind a quote from the Rock Man in The Point "You see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear".

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
31. True that. Hence, calling all that didn't support him, establishment might not have been a good move
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jul 2016

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
34. I'm confused
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jul 2016

Did you mean to say in post #2 that he was NOT ready to endorse? You had said "I just read Sanders is ready to endorse" so I asked for a link because the piece i read about his meeting at Congress didn't make that clear.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
45. It is fascinating though. I have never really been bothered he would hurt us. I do not think he
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jul 2016

has, can or will. He does not have the right.... Whatever. But, it has all been a very interesting roller coaster ride, more standing back and watching instead of jumping on the ride.

All this is new stuff to see, listen to, see the results.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
48. I do think his waffling has continued to fuel the delusion of his most vociferous fans ...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jul 2016

... but they are so small even by comparison to the PUMAs of 2008 that I'm not sure it matters. The independents may be affected but most of the ones I know are going for Hillary, even ones who hate her. They hate her but they hate Trump more. I couldn't care less. A vote's a vote. :-D

I think the endorsement will help, naturally, but I don't think it will help all that much. Obama has great approval ratings and his stumps for her will be worth way more than Sanders. He's a much better orator than Sanders and has more than just one stump speech to repeat over and over.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
53. I agree with everything. Further watching the last year, Clinton herself runs a damn strong campaign
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jul 2016

I said a while ago, After California and then DC, I like where Clinton is in this.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
55. I think I am thinking about the more broader issues in contrast of the two.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:48 PM
Jul 2016

Not going to get into it a lot, but it sure clarified some stuff. Like Dems being the adult in the room, stuff like that.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
11. He also said that he was not endorsing because he was waiting for DOJ. So, department of Justice
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:14 PM - Edit history (1)

made it clear to him this afternoon. It was a given, obvious, we all got it. But, Sanders had to hear it out loud. So whatever. Sanders and his people are the ones that use "we the people" with exclusion. As i pointed out by your post... and my reply.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
28. The only people saying...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jul 2016

Senator Sanders was booed are anonymous. Representative Connolly on the other hand is quite willing to be identified and he said no booing occurred. https://twitter.com/GerryConnolly/status/750710655494139904

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
32. Of course you would...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jul 2016

believe someone anonymous who says what you want to hear over a sitting Democratic Congressman who clearly identified himself.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
59. I don't know...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jul 2016

what Senator Sanders said, but joining Representative Connolly are Representative Steny Hoyer and House Democratic Caucus Chair Xavier Becerra who also say they did not hear booing. I wasn't there so I don't know what happened.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
52. He was interviewed this early afternoon and he himself said he was booed
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jul 2016

On MSNBC he said something like they wasn't much booing. Or there was only a little booing.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
61. I just responded in...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:23 PM
Jul 2016

#59 so not to repeat myself I'll just say there are three Congress people who say there wasn't any booing.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
35. hahahahahahahha!
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jul 2016

That's great!!! I liked Jackass Delusionals as well. Mine was Jim Jones Radicals but I like yours more!

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. Sanders is in get off my lawn mode.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jul 2016

He doesn't realize he is yelling from the front yard of my crazy uncle across the street.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. Ha ha hahahahaha. You know, this is interesting to see. I wonder what else will happen.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jul 2016

The gals in my office were whining about Obama giving Clinton a lift to the rally. It was even escalated so I could hear it in front. I am really going to trip watching Clinton run this GE race. It will be very insightful and focused, lots to see.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
39. I encouraged my kids to walk on the grass. Preferably without shoes. Get a real feel of that lawn
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jul 2016

someone spent a lot of time and water, making all pretty. One of the joys in life. When did we decide no one was allowed to walk on the lawn?

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
44. Sheesh!
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jul 2016

The need to assuage this man's broken December dreams of becoming president is just one more emblem of what's wrong with our age of entitlement. It's like, dude, you lost. Get over it and take up crochet or something.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
47. Oh... and all we saw in privilege and entitlement this last year, all around. As I said,
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jul 2016

we were given so much to grow and focus and take Trump down. This, I do appreciate from Sanders.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
49. In that regard, yes
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jul 2016

I think Sanders made her a better candidate because she was that much tougher by the time the primary was pretty much decided. And I am glad the party has spoken against Citizens United and the death penalty. If Sanders helped with that, then I am grateful to him for it. There are positions he takes I do agree with, but I think he is far too uncompromising to actually put in that chair.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
54. Citizens United has been the Dems issue, Clinton and Obama since way before Sanders ever
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jul 2016

spoke the issue. And Obama has fought where he could with being a part bringing suits that have produced some results. This is what really bothers me about Sanders. I have been aware of this discussion for years, and listening to our Dems. They are very vocal. Sanders doesn't get to own the issue. And though Clinton is for DP, or whatever her position is, the Dems have always been strong on that position. So no.... Sanders does not get to own it.

This is one of my loudest complaint of the Sanders campaign the last year.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
46. Good quick response.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jul 2016

Over. The House GOP will have its little campaign session with Comey, so they can brag to constituents, and it will be over.

Took too long.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
58. WTF? fifty posts and almost every one is irrelevant BULLSHIT
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:59 PM
Jul 2016

all this garbage talk has exactly WHAT to do with justice, except very tangentially?

the four years from now Bernie will be campaigning for Hillary's re-election, as much as it pains me to say that. unless, of course, the unthinkable happens

hows about staying on topic, and discussing the massive fraud being perpetrated on low information news consumers by the usual admixture of right wing maniacs and lazy, greedy MSM tools?

thank you

unblock

(52,183 posts)
62. yay! i was worried that the doj wouldn't close the matter for weeks.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:28 PM
Jul 2016

during which republicans would keep pressing for an indictment notwithstanding comey's recommendation.

glad it became official quickly and that republicans are reduced to calling for an investigation of the investigation!

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