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RandySF

(58,776 posts)
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:10 PM Jul 2016

Huge ballot awaiting California voters

Voters are in store for another thick November ballot -- one that will offer up more statewide initiatives than IHOP has pancake dishes.

With California Secretary of State Alex Padilla certifying 17 ballot measures late last week -- the most for any election since March 2000, when the state's voters grappled with 20 measures -- local residents can expect to cast upward of five double-sided pages worth of votes and receive election guides that could number more than 200 pages, said Joe Canciamilla, Contra Costa County's election chief.

"The ballot is just going to be a nightmare," he said.

As voters labor over questions about legalizing marijuana, eliminating the death penalty and making adult film actors wear condoms during sex, studies show that nearly 1 in 10 of them will likely give up before making it to the raft of local races, including a $3 billion BART bond measure.

And many more will find themselves nixing initiatives they never had the time to grasp, said Shaun Bowler, a ballot measure expert at UC Riverside.

"The conventional wisdom is the more propositions you have, the more 'no' voting you get because people say, 'I don't want to take the time to figure this out,' " he said.


http://www.mercurynews.com/elections/ci_30090176/election-2016-daunting-ballot-awaiting-california-voters

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Huge ballot awaiting California voters (Original Post) RandySF Jul 2016 OP
If I lived in California frazzled Jul 2016 #1
Direct Democracy isn't bad LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #5
My solution (which isn't one) for years moonscape Jul 2016 #2
It is the stupidest feature ever in the Calif constitution. That and term limits. Hekate Jul 2016 #3
No initiative, no state lottery. oasis Jul 2016 #8
My default vote is No Retrograde Jul 2016 #4
Direct Democracy is a way LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #6
II thought they started writing some of them so that a 'no' vote moonscape Jul 2016 #7
Any word on any Republican wedge issue propositions designed to increase the idiot voter turnout? Brother Buzz Jul 2016 #9

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. If I lived in California
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:25 PM
Jul 2016

I'd work to get an initiative on the ballot to prohibit ballot initiatives. Really.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
2. My solution (which isn't one) for years
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:37 PM
Jul 2016

has been to not vote for any initiatives.

The last straw was when my housekeeper arrived one Tuesday, ballot in hand, and asked me to tell her how she should vote because she didn't understand them.

Of course we can't understand the ramifications of most of them. That's what we hire representatives for, representatives we can vote in or out. It's bad enough we have people willing to vote for a know-nothing, and worse, Trump. But putting complex legislation before people for a vote?

No thanks!

Hekate

(90,646 posts)
3. It is the stupidest feature ever in the Calif constitution. That and term limits.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jul 2016

Just DO THE JOB WE SENT YOU TO SACRAMENTO TO DO!

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
4. My default vote is No
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jul 2016

unless the people putting the measure on the ballot make a very convincing argument. Exception: I'll vote for most bond measures.

When I moved here from New York back in 1976 I though people-driven initiatives were a good idea, something I had never seen back east. Now the only ballot measure petition I'll sign is one that abolishes the state legislature, since the voters are expected to do their jobs. If you actually take the time to read the text of the propositions you'll find they often say something quite different than what the brief summaries or ads imply.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
6. Direct Democracy is a way
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jul 2016

for the people to enact legislation when the legislature won't. Marijuana legalization is a good example that most of us support. Same sex marriage prohibition is an example most of us don't support.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
7. II thought they started writing some of them so that a 'no' vote
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jul 2016

accomplishes the objective.

I'm an educated person, but there is no way I can know the implications of so many initiatives. And I agree, if we are expected to do their job, their salaries need to come to us for all the work it would take to make even a semi-informed decision.

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