2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat Philando Castile’s death says about the dangers of “driving while black”
Audio suggests Philando Castile was pulled over because his nose fit a robbery suspects profile.
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/11/12147878/philando-castile-driving-while-black
According to audio recovered by local news station KARE11 from a viewer, an officer radioed a traffic stop that they matched Castiles license plate and location on July 6 allegedly because Castile looked like a robbery suspect, just cause of the wide set nose:
"Im going to stop a car. Im going to check IDs. I have reason to pull it over."
"The two occupants just look like people that were involved in a robbery. The driver looks like one of our suspects, just cause of the wide set nose."
doc03
(35,321 posts)his girlfriend made. I have heard claims from Rethugs that he had the gun between his legs and tried to grab it. Does the
recording have him telling the cop he has CCW or is it the girlfriend saying that he did? Did the cop ask him for his license and registration or did he just reach for it on his own? Every time something like this happens it seems you hear two or three sides of the story.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)there was no cause to pull him over.
None of the subsequent events should have happened.
doc03
(35,321 posts)wheel and tell the officer he had a CCW permit and possessed a weapon? Did the officer ask him for his license and registration or did he
take his hands off the wheel on his own? I have not heard the recording and I will not make any conclusions either way.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)You want an excuse for executing a citizen who was practicing his Second Amendment rights.
You just want to skip all his other Constitutional rights on top of the Second Amendment.
Where does it say, "... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed as long as the black man keeps his hands on the steering will and says "Yes sir" and "No sir."
This OP is about "driving while black." Not about your diversions.
doc03
(35,321 posts)keep your hands in sight and tell the officer you have a CCW. Then you wait to see how he wants to handle the situation, you don't reach for your wallet or reach for the glove box. How the hell does he know if you are going to pull a gun on him or your license? You have 2nd Amendment rights but you also need a permit for CC and you follow the procedures. COPs pull people over every day and they never know what to expect. I worked with a guy years ago his dad was a cop, he pulled over a car for speeding and he was shot dead it turned out they had just robbed a bank minutes before.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)I believe he was merely
Y "riding".
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
He was assessed at least $6,588 in fines and fees, although more than half of the total 86 violations were dismissed, court records show.
Was Castile an especially bad driver or just unlucky? Or was he targeted by officers who single out black motorists like him for such stops, as several of his family members have alleged?
The answer may never be known, but Castile's stop for "a broken tail light" Wednesday ended with him fatally shot by a suburban St. Paul police officer, and Castile's girlfriend livestreaming the chilling aftermath.