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WestCoastLib

(442 posts)
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:21 PM Jul 2016

Remember Hillaryis44.org and PUMA?

I remember the 08 election around nere like it was yesterday. When PUMA supposedly broke away from being Democratic Party, since Obama was so awful and Hillary was the bees knees.

In not my finest moments, I even trolled their site a time or too, to let them know they weren't fooling anybody that they were actually liberals, democrats, or even actual Hillary supporters.

Well...hillaryis44.org is still alive and kicking...for the past 8 years they've been bashing Obama in prep for Hillary in 16...only now that she's defeated Bernie, the entire site has "shockingly" become a Hillary bashing site. She's now "just as bad as Obama" and Hillaryis44.org is pulling for Trump.

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Remember Hillaryis44.org and PUMA? (Original Post) WestCoastLib Jul 2016 OP
LOL ... Kind of telling, huh? 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #1
And old Harriet Christian is dead bluestateguy Jul 2016 #2
I totally forgot about her! democrattotheend Jul 2016 #6
Some people get so emotionally involved Hortensis Jul 2016 #20
I strongly disagree with you about a lot of that democrattotheend Jul 2016 #23
I remember her gabeana Jul 2016 #7
No bravenak Jul 2016 #3
They've been fooling themselves for 8 years, thinking Hillary thought like them. ashtonelijah Jul 2016 #4
So that's why they turned on Hillary. Thanks for the info. NWCorona Jul 2016 #11
"secretly working to undermine Obama"? You're kidding. Hortensis Jul 2016 #14
I always thought that site was being fueled by Republican aggitators democrattotheend Jul 2016 #5
"Hillary has my vote," Dem? Hortensis Jul 2016 #17
Those are two separate bumper stickers I made democrattotheend Jul 2016 #24
Oh, how clueless of me. Of course. Like them both! Hortensis Jul 2016 #25
Thanks! democrattotheend Jul 2016 #27
Why would anyone care? seabeyond Jul 2016 #8
Sure do. Those people actually followed through and voted for McCain. Barack_America Jul 2016 #9
If they love Sarah Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #19
That's funny you'd bring that up as I just got done reading this NWCorona Jul 2016 #10
Personally, I always found "HILLBUZZ" more entertaining... brooklynite Jul 2016 #12
And will the BoBs take the same path? baldguy Jul 2016 #13
Looking at the Dank Meme subgroup ehrnst Jul 2016 #26
Those people are racist goons.. nothing to do with actual Hillary supporters. DCBob Jul 2016 #15
Yep, exactly why these folks don't concern me regarding the General Election stevenleser Jul 2016 #16
+1. Hortensis Jul 2016 #18
It really does show that what we are currently watching is psychologically based, not politically. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #21
Neither do I Orsino Jul 2016 #22

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
6. I totally forgot about her!
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 10:43 PM
Jul 2016

Disgusting. I don't know if she was a Republican plant or not, but she sure didn't do Hillary any favors.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Some people get so emotionally involved
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:46 AM
Jul 2016

involved that intellect, and honesty, are smothered. I don't find her disgusting, though. As ranting, irrational, extremist partisans go, she seemed pretty decent.

She wasn't totally untethered from reality, either. Obama was young, a one-termer in Congress, and black, and it is very likely that he would not have run if his opponent was a prominent white male politician. Being the first woman to make a strong run for president did not just present a tremendous mountain to scale for Hillary, but a great opportunity for the first black male candidate to run against seriously handicapped opponent.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
23. I strongly disagree with you about a lot of that
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:07 PM
Jul 2016

I think Harriet Christian's comments were racist, plain and simple. But we are just starting to come together after the 2016 primaries - the last thing we need to do is refight the 2008 primaries!

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
7. I remember her
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 10:47 PM
Jul 2016

and racism towards Obama

http://wonkette.com/400582/john-mccain-and-harriet-christian-fall-in-love

"that’s Harriet Christian, the famous Hillary Clinton diehard who threw a fit at the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee over its perceived bias towards the Democrats’ “inadequate black male” of a nominee, which landed her a Fox News appearance during which she said black people don’t even know why they voted for Obama."

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
3. No
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:30 PM
Jul 2016

Why would we remember puma sites? Is it like Jackpine Ridiculous? I bet we will forget them all in due time. Sad to see these fake democratic sites pop up and troll us by supporting Trump. They really hate dems. Vile.

ashtonelijah

(340 posts)
4. They've been fooling themselves for 8 years, thinking Hillary thought like them.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 10:40 PM
Jul 2016

I've occasionally run by that site and read it over the past 8 years. Until about 8 months ago, they spent every day explaining how Hillary was secretly working to undermine Obama, how every move was a calculated part of her master plan to destroy him and win in 2016. They believed her friendship with and admiration for him was a ruse. They believed she was seeking to sabotage his administration by joining it. They thought she was obsessed with payback like them.

And then when they saw her run in 2016, they finally realized that Hillay actually genuinely admires Obama and believes he has done the right things. And they hate her for it.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
11. So that's why they turned on Hillary. Thanks for the info.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:31 AM
Jul 2016

While I still think that Bill can't stand Obama. I've come around somewhat and do think that there is a bond between Hillary and Barack.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. "secretly working to undermine Obama"? You're kidding.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:12 AM
Jul 2016

No matter how much product of minds long lost down the rabbit hole I run into, I'm constantly being amazed by the delusions.

As far as Hillary goes, you know people by their enemies too, not just by those they acknowledge as friends. If hate can honor, this does.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
5. I always thought that site was being fueled by Republican aggitators
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 10:41 PM
Jul 2016

Not real Hillary supporters. I guess this proves I was right.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. "Hillary has my vote," Dem?
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:20 AM
Jul 2016

To me the rest has the same sentiment as crowds chanting "four more years" at Obama as his presidency nears its end--a statement of affection and support, and regret that he will be leaving.

It'd almost be surprising if Republican agitators weren't there anyway, of course.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
24. Those are two separate bumper stickers I made
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jul 2016

I have both for sale in my store. I checked the rules here and it seems that is ok.

The first sticker is for non-Bernie-or-Bust Bernie supporters like myself, who wanted Bernie but are prepared to vote for Hillary in November.

The second bumper sticker is, as you say, a statement of affection, and sadness that Obama's presidency is almost over.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
9. Sure do. Those people actually followed through and voted for McCain.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 11:20 PM
Jul 2016

And, oh, did they love themselves some Sarah Palin.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
19. If they love Sarah
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:27 AM
Jul 2016

then they are Republicans...I have often suspected that many who refuse to support the nominee are Republicans. You can say what you want but Trump is a horror ...if you can fathom a Trump presidency and think it would be 'better' than a Clinton Presidency than you are a Republican. If you can vote for a third party or not vote ...all of which is a vote for Trump then you are not a Democrat...perhaps you idolize Bernie...who is but one man, but you are not a Democrat or progressive in my opinion. I checked out the Pines...what a nasty place too...I would be hard pressed to label any of them as progressive or Democratic...I expect a fair number of them are Republican agitators and the rest could be considered Bernie loyalists. I saw more than a few using their DU names on the site.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
12. Personally, I always found "HILLBUZZ" more entertaining...
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:33 AM
Jul 2016

Both started out as PUMA sites, but they both became RW oriented by the 2012 election.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
15. Those people are racist goons.. nothing to do with actual Hillary supporters.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:14 AM
Jul 2016

That site should be shut down.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
16. Yep, exactly why these folks don't concern me regarding the General Election
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:18 AM
Jul 2016

The PUMA and Bernie or Bust types amount to a few cranks plus Repuglicans (doing a bad job of) pretending to be disaffected democrats in order to try to drive a wedge in the party.

None of whom will have an effect on the outcome.

The best part of the PUMA nonsense was watching the Freepers pin their hopes on PUMAs giving the election to McCain.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
21. It really does show that what we are currently watching is psychologically based, not politically.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:47 AM
Jul 2016

It is very individual and has very manic aspects. Sometimes simply being against things becomes an individuals true state of being.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
22. Neither do I
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jul 2016

Movements grow and last because they have numbers and comm9n interests worth fighting for.

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