Tim Kaine now speaking with Hillary. Hillary, listen to me now girl:

[nolabear]

PLEASE, for the love of GOD, pick Elizabeth Warren! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!

[wcmagumba]

1. Super Yes for EW!

Please Hil, don't....do not....go for boring, people don't, won't vote for that this time....!!

[nolabear]

2. This is prejudice, pure prejudice, but he creeps me out.

The audience is kind of meh too. I don't think he'll inspire people not already voting.

[Maven]

3. Agreed. Or ANYONE but Kaine

Setting aside his distasteful positions in a number of areas, the guy has all the charisma and gravitas of a damp paper towel. Comes across as a complete milquetoast and looks schlubby. Please Hill, NOT KAINE.

[nolabear]

5. *snort!* You have a gift for language.

Schlubby is the perfect word. Mealy-mouthed. A little smarmy.

BIG no. BIG.

[Maven]

13. Thank you kindly

[AntiBank]

37. Booker would be worse

both are horrid choices

[applegrove]

4. Yes. Obama was not afraid to pick Clinton as Secretary of State and be

out shone by her at times. Hillary comes alive with Warren's energy. Plus Warren would make a great VP who could study finance and trade rules around the world to see what is best for the middle class. Hillary could promise that in the GE. A two-fer.

[nolabear]

6. Absolutely. She has nothing to fear from EW and has a great, strong ally.

[tallahasseedem]

12. I agree with you...

she looked like a new person when Elizabeth was talking...more so than with anyone else.

The email deal hit her hard...she needs to be bold now. Ride or die Secretary!

[applegrove]

16. Yes. I think Hillary is so smart that she has trouble staying engaged

while repeating themes over and over again on the campaign trail. Warren keeps her on her toes.

[tallahasseedem]

18. Definitely...

It's the energy. We know she can do the job, but sometimes the best candidates just aren't that great on the trail. I'm fine with that, there is a lot on the line. But that is why we have to have Warren now.

[applegrove]

21. Yes. Nobody is going to puppet I've Clinton once in office. She is so smart she'll do all the

hard detailed work on policy. And come up with what will help people most. Trump on the other hand has all ready handed over judicial pick policy to the conservatives and he is not even elected. He's so vague in his understanding of issues and details that he'll hand the policy thinking over to the establishment GOP his supporters dislike so much. I think Warren can punch through the truth on this and be a fighter for Hillary.

[Expecting Rain]

7. Add my vote for Warren

Be bold Hillary. Please.

[TeamPooka]

8. Not going to be EW but after that performance by Kaine I'm rooting for Perez I guess??

[mblock]

9. 😴😴😴😴😴

I was listening to it in my car. I had no idea it was Kaine talking, and I was thinking who is this fool talking. It sounded very remedial. Then they said Kaine,,,, I was like, "For the love of God....Noooooooooooo!" 💤💤💤💤💤

[nolabear]

28. Hah! Love "remedial." That's about it.

[mblock]

10. My girl needs to go all in

And take some risk. He is a snooze fest.

[tallahasseedem]

11. I gave him the benefit of the doubt...

no longer. It HAS to be Elizabeth. Her energy will drive up our numbers against Trump's new "law and order" bullshit.

[Peigan68]

20. At this point

At this point if she picks anybody else besides Warren I will be disappointed. That joint appearance they had together a few weeks ago was just fantastic to watch, and I know Warren would excite the base.

Sanders would excite them too (but we both know that's not going to happen).

But yeah, not Kaine.

[eissa]

24. Ditto. Major letdown if it isn't her

She excites the base, she brings in the progressive wing of the party, she would clean the floor in any debate with anyone. She'd be a major asset to the ticket. I just can't think of anyone else who could bring all that to the table. Maybe Sherrod Brown, but we'd risk losing that seat.

On edit: Yes, I realize we'd also lose EW's seat -- I still think it would be worth it.

[SaschaHM]

14. Yeah, I'm fine if it's not Warren, but...

Kaine speaking is like paint drying. On one hand, I don't see him holding up well in the Vice Presidential debate. On the other, he is very popular in VA and locking that in cuts off many paths for Trump. Idk folks are going to be excited/disappointed regardless of the choice at this point.

[nolabear]

29. Oh hell, I hadn't thought about him going up against Pence. Nonononono...

Pence is mean. Someone has to be unable to be bullied.

She can do it. He can't.

[Expecting Rain]

15. The worst thing about Kaine's "audition" today...

wasn't just how underwhelming he was, but how the wet-blanket atmosphere he set-up seemed to keep HRC from connecting as she does when at her best. Contrast this speech with the one HRC gave behind Warren. What a difference.

[tallahasseedem]

19. I think she had to give him the chance...

he failed. Elizabeth proved to be the one...period.

[MFM008]

17. look Kaine is a democrat

so hes good for something.
But I watched him and I want to open a vein in a hot tub.
Anybody but Kaine please HRC.

[newblewtoo]

22. A younger candidate is better

at this point. No disrespect to Elizabeth but she is too old to grow the party for the future. Also, from a strategic standpoint, Virginia brings more to the table than Massachusetts in terms of electoral clout. And can't you just hear the ads about 'the Goldman Girls, two reformed Republicans, the very antithesis of everything they propose to support' ? (Like it or not you know they will drag all the dirt out on any candidate but this combination (Clinton / Warren) seems unbelievably ripe for the plucking.)

[nolabear]

30. Her following Hillary into office isn't the only way to grow it. She inspires many people who can.

I don't even get "Goldman Girls." The riff on Golden Girls is insanely ageist and won't fly, and the Goldman-Sachs riff doesn't make sense where Warren is concerned.

I think Warren will actually get out the vote, which will go a long way in the battle for who carries what state. Every state needs enthused voters.

That GOP-to-Dem argument nobody but the RW gives a rip about. They're not going to pick up anything from it.

[newblewtoo]

44. Inspiration is nice but

perspiration is how you gain experience. We need to do better grooming younger candidates.

[OnDoutside]

23. I have to say that he didn't do it for me either, which is a pity because he has so much going for

him. He comes across as just too nice. He did a better one-to-one Sunday TV interview but this didn't work for me.

[liberalnarb]

25. He's not passionate AT ALL.

Bernie, Hillary, Warren, Obama, all give me the feeling they care about the issues they are talking about when they speak, Kaine is just a bore.

[SheilaT]

26. Doesn't anyone else on this board think that

Elizabeth Warren should remain in the Senate?

Seriously, a Vice President is as powerless a person in DC as is possible. He or she makes no policy, proposes no legislation, chairs no committees, in short, does nothing other than help out the President with speeches or attending funerals or representing our country overseas. Nothing substantive emanates from the VP.

Meanwhile, for all the assurances that she'll be able to keep her Senate seat and then a special election would be held immediately after the November election, I sincerely doubt that her replacement will be a fraction of her in abilities, presence, willingness to take on causes.

Unless you honestly think that whoever Clinton's VP is will wind up serving out her term, all she needs is a bit of what gets categorized diversity, someone who will campaign for her, support all of her positions, and be as innocuous as possible.

Actually, my only and rather trivial objection to Kaine would be that he's likewise from the east coast. A pick of someone from a more western state might be nice. It's not that I'm hyped at the possibility of his being VP, it's that I don't care a whole lot.

Speaking only for myself, there is almost no one Hillary Clinton could select as VP that would make me any less or any more inclined to vote for her. I'm always voting for the top of the ticket, not for the vice president.

[nolabear]

31. I'm betting that she will contribute so much to downticket votes that it'll be irrelevant.

My hope is that the VP pick ensures a victory and then we go from there.

[SheilaT]

35. So her presence on the ticket helps Hillary win the election,

and then she has nothing more to contribute for four, possibly eight years. You'd really rather see her doing the (nothing) things a VP does than be in the Senate fighting for all of us?

I happen to prefer she remain in the Senate.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

32. Good points, and I agree. BUT

Kaine would be a drag, an anchor that would confirm her tepid campaign.SHE MUST CHANGE HER CAMPAIGN.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

34. I'd prefer she stay in the Senate

Same with Brown.

Doesn't mean she should go with Kaine.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

45. Yes, yes, and yes.

[tinrobot]

43. Particularly since the GOP governor would pick her replacement.

She would not only be out of power in the Senate, the Senate would have one less progressive vote.

[yallerdawg]

27. You've heard of the "woman card"?

Elizabeth Warren could be the "trump card"!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

33. Tim Kaine is exactly the safe, boring pick I'd expect from Hillary

One of the reasons I'm never enthused by her.

Not bashing, just one of my issues with her and why it took a lot of thought to actually vote for her.

[swhisper1]

39. he is 3rd way, but fits her, she wont have to fight him, she would be fighting Warren daily

[Doctor_J]

41. old, conservative white male. no surprise. at least he's not a republican

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

42. Nice to know you think 58 is "old"

That's not part of my critique. Sherrod Brown could fit some of those critiques as well.

[NCTraveler]

36. If Warren were to be taken out of the senate...

There are numerous positions I would like to see her in before VP. Not saying she wouldn't be a great VP.

[AntiBank]

38. Kaine voted for fast track with the rethugs

bad choice

[Vote2016]

40. kick & rec #5