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riversedge

(70,016 posts)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 05:03 PM Jul 2016

National polls don't show gains for Trump per se. More about Clinton losing ground to Johnson/Stein/



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National polls don't show gains for Trump per se. More about Clinton losing ground to Johnson/Stein/undecided.


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National polls

Our model is mostly based on state polls, but national polls inform various steps of its calculations, such as the trend line adjustment, house effects adjustment and demographic regression.



Who will win the presidency?

Chance of winning
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Hillary Clinton

66.2%

Donald Trump

33.7%
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Tipping points
Electoral votes

Hillary Clinton

310.3

Donald Trump

226.9

Gary Johnson

0.7
Popular vote

Hillary Clinton

47.3%

Donald Trump

43.3%

Gary Johnson

8.1%
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National polls don't show gains for Trump per se. More about Clinton losing ground to Johnson/Stein/ (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2016 OP
Ya see, that's the thing about these polls. Johnson, won't even be on the ballot in every state tonyt53 Jul 2016 #1
Similar thing happens every four years. They poll well early, then fade after the conventions. TwilightZone Jul 2016 #2
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. Ya see, that's the thing about these polls. Johnson, won't even be on the ballot in every state
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jul 2016

Between Johnson ans Stein, plus all the other nobody's on the ballot, won't get 1%. They always poll a lot higher than their actual votes.

TwilightZone

(25,418 posts)
2. Similar thing happens every four years. They poll well early, then fade after the conventions.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jul 2016

Johnson was polling ~8% in 2012 and received 1%. Stein was polling in the mid-single-digits and got 0.35%.

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