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Fri Jul 15, 2016, 07:35 AM

Mike Pence for VP may mean President Pence for the GOP.

I cry for the world over the thoughts of such a tragedy... yet, one needs to look at GOP chess moves...

A Trump Presidency would not last 1 year.. Maybe the GOP is thinking along lines of just using Trump for the vote and really angle for the VP to become President soon afterwards. Trump is pure chaos, an early resignation is predicted. Ultimately, GOP gets their backdoor win....

Just thinking.....and sharing my guess

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Reply Mike Pence for VP may mean President Pence for the GOP. (Original post)
FarPoint Jul 2016 OP
thesquanderer Jul 2016 #1
FarPoint Jul 2016 #2
Gman Jul 2016 #11
Mass Jul 2016 #21
Else You Are Mad Jul 2016 #3
Post removed Jul 2016 #4
sarae Jul 2016 #5
cosmicone Jul 2016 #6
Raster Jul 2016 #7
Lithos Jul 2016 #8
Night Watchman Jul 2016 #9
Night Watchman Jul 2016 #10
mainstreetonce Jul 2016 #13
Liberalagogo Jul 2016 #19
cosmicone Jul 2016 #26
mainstreetonce Jul 2016 #12
Nitram Jul 2016 #14
Historic NY Jul 2016 #15
bullwinkle428 Jul 2016 #16
greymattermom Jul 2016 #20
exboyfil Jul 2016 #28
L. Coyote Jul 2016 #17
coco77 Jul 2016 #18
FarPoint Jul 2016 #32
MoonRiver Jul 2016 #22
TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #25
Moostache Jul 2016 #27
MoonRiver Jul 2016 #29
INdemo Jul 2016 #23
onenote Jul 2016 #24
Hong Kong Cavalier Jul 2016 #30
hamsterjill Jul 2016 #31

Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 07:47 AM

1. This same thinking may be why Gingrich and Christie seem to want it so much. (n/t)

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 07:52 AM

2. Agreed...

I sense the GOP will win at any cost...They will dump Trump...clean out the cat litter box...So if I'm thinking it...so are they....I heard Koch brothers will back Pence....not Trump...so, I'm following the money.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:41 AM

11. Sarah Palin not withstanding

The VP pick that loses in November is usually the automatic early front runner four years later. I think that's why Gingrich and Christie want it so bad.

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Response to Gman (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:31 AM

21. And never the nominee if the ticket loses

Ryan, Palin, Edwards, Lieberman, Kemp, Quayle, Bentsen, [Exception for Mondale, but he was actually VP, not nominee) ...Ferraro, etc

Generally, the party moves on.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:08 AM

3. That makes perfect sense.

The GOP knows they have no chance of getting an establishment candidate to win the presidency if they usurp Trump since he is their only chance (be it a small chance) to beat Hillary.

God help us if this actually happens, all the progress we made over the last 50 years would be undone within the first 100 days of Pence taking office.

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Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:19 AM

5. exactly what I was thinking...

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Response to Post removed (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:29 AM

6. I detest the casual insinuation of an assassination

 

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I don't condone such violence nor do I give a subtle wink and nod. I don't marvel in the possibility.

Trump is the political enemy but he is a father, grandfather and a husband. I wouldn't want any bodily harm to come to him -- just an election loss in a landslide.

Besides, being assassinated would move Trump into the ranks of Lincoln, JF Kennedy, McKinley etc. which he doesn't deserve one iota.

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Response to cosmicone (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:32 AM

7. I could not agree more. Excellent points all.

However, I do not see The tRump completing a full, four-year term. He just doesn't have the stones for it. If, God forbid, there is a GOP win, I think we are looking at some type of bait-and-switch.

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Response to cosmicone (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:34 AM

8. My read is that they are not...

Rather, they are implying that Trump will implode with one of his many schemes blowing up in his face.

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Response to cosmicone (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:36 AM

9. Just Clarifying

 

Other posters in the thread were tip-toeing around it, so I just wanted ti spell out (I insinuated nothing!) the ugliness that has taken four of our Presidents. And no, for the record, I do not support the killing of Mr Trump.

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Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:46 AM

13. I agree

but jail for tax fraud would be something to celebrate.

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Response to cosmicone (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:09 AM

19. Grant?

 

Grant wasn't assassinated. McKinley was. If that's the kind of list you were making.

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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 10:47 AM

26. Corrected. Thank you! nt

 

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:45 AM

12. I have thought about this

However, I think if most Republicans see the possibility of Trump resigning. The VP race would have included Rubio and Cruz and Kasich.

Of course the biggest possibility is that the Republicans know Trump will lose.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:48 AM

14. Absolutely. I can see the Republicans joining Democrats to impeach Trump...

...for one or more disastrous decisions, statements or indictments early on in his presidenc , and voila: President Pence.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:01 AM

16. Pence is a complete puppet and stooge for the Koch brothers.

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops, once his selection is made "official".

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:16 AM

20. I understand that Pence is not well liked, even in Indiana

he's running to be a Fox news commentator.

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #20)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 11:08 AM

28. He underperformed Romney in a red state

So I think you are right. Christie and him really have no where else to go. Gingrich is in the wilderness and the VP was his only chance out.

Only the desperate have considered joining Trump on the ticket.

So what happens to the GOP nomination for Governor of Indiana? Didn't Pence win the primary?

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:02 AM

17. The clown show that was their candidate list is due to the fact they know they will lose the general

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:09 AM

18. Told this to a friend the other day..

 

she was outraged. I told her Trump is picking the Presidential nominee because he won't serve. He may go to the inauguration for the history books.

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Response to coco77 (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 01:57 PM

32. I agree...

His entire campaign smells..used tabloid campaign style to gain the attention edge of uninformed voter base, the, slip in the ringer....

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:44 AM

22. Why would that egomaniac resign?

I can't even contemplate the idea of him being president, but if the worst happened, no way would he walk away from such power. It is his ultimate wet dream.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #22)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 10:47 AM

25. He would resign because he doesn't want to work that hard

He would quickly find out that he can't say "You're fired!" to anyone and that he can't delegate all the resposibilities while he poses with his thumb up for photo ops.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #25)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 10:50 AM

27. Why not?

Reagan was barely cognizant of the fact that he WAS president from about 1987 on...
Bush the Lesser was a hand puppet for Cheney all the way through Katrina...

The GOP has a recent history of absentee Presidents, why would Trump be any different?

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #25)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 11:12 AM

29. He would have to be impeached to leave office.

Dimson never worked while president. He had flunkies, like Cheney and Rumsfeld, do all the hard work, including thinking, for him. Dim Don would just follow in that nitwit's footsteps. And God help us if this come to pass.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:46 AM

23. Mike Pence will be a One Term Govenor whether he is VP choice or not

He will be defeated by John Gregg for Governor if he stays on the ticket

"About 40 percent approved of Pence's job performance this time, while 42 percent disapproved. During last yearís poll, 46 percent approved and 46 percent disapproved."

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/mike-pence-approval-ratings

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:51 AM

24. Like most Trump-related predictions

I give this one a two percent chance. Of course we'll never know unless he gets elected. And if he does get elected I don't see him leaving office voluntarily or the republicans in Congress forcing him out.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 11:15 AM

30. That's what I'm thinking, too.

Furious Cheeto hinted that he might not even want to be President. If he wins, I can fully expect him to pretty much resign before he gets sworn in.

This choice is intentional by him and by the GOP to try and do an end run-around on the country.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 12:30 PM

31. Pence can and will hold power just by virtue of being in the VP slot.

It's already been done by the GOP.

If you don't believe that, then TELL me that George W. Bush wasn't Dick Cheney's puppet!

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