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What is the use of having conventions? It's already decided, isn't it? (Original Post) Festivito Jul 2016 OP
As per the movie "The Rocketeer", "It's all part of the show". tonyt53 Jul 2016 #1
So are reruns of Charles in Charge. eom Festivito Jul 2016 #4
Process. It's all process. MineralMan Jul 2016 #2
There are lots of processes. Why this going nowhere show... eom Festivito Jul 2016 #6
To introduce candidates to a broad audience (people who aren't political junkies) emulatorloo Jul 2016 #9
I see it as political wonk theater preaching to the chior and boring the ones we need to reach. eom Festivito Jul 2016 #17
So how do you explain the 'convention bounce' candidates get in polls after the convention? emulatorloo Jul 2016 #20
True dat. But, one sided talk for a week LONG LONG LONG before the voting. Festivito Jul 2016 #24
... and why are the taxpayers paying for them? NashuaDW Jul 2016 #3
Ahh. It's because of socialism. The kind of socialism the GOP likes. Festivito Jul 2016 #8
They are pep rallies, basically. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #5
There are better pep rallys to broadcast. But, the GOP trainwreck will be fun for some of us. Festivito Jul 2016 #10
Introduction & Cohesion & Coalescing & Fleshing Out of Main Messages/Players Her Sister Jul 2016 #7
Sounds like a big government paid for ad. Festivito Jul 2016 #12
Yeah but it is now on one Spectacular Happening! Like a rally! Her Sister Jul 2016 #14
Ahh. Happenings and pep rallys. Ahh, recalling my mispent youth! Festivito Jul 2016 #28
Lots of free publicity PatSeg Jul 2016 #11
When I was a kid, they decided something of interest. Now. What? eom Festivito Jul 2016 #13
Haha! You're really against it! Her Sister Jul 2016 #15
I quit IT so my casket would not weigh 550 extra pounds. I'm not against IT. eom Festivito Jul 2016 #21
Awwww! Cute! Her Sister Jul 2016 #23
I know PatSeg Jul 2016 #25
The GOP's will be just a overly scripted version of Just for Laughs. Festivito Jul 2016 #29
I get a kick out of the ridiculous hats PatSeg Jul 2016 #30
Oh, they have lots of class... Festivito Jul 2016 #33
Ha, ha, ha PatSeg Jul 2016 #34
Don't you mean 'unforgiven'? randome Jul 2016 #31
Yes, "unforgiven" PatSeg Jul 2016 #32
Like caucuses, conventions are an anachronism of politics past. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #16
More like a sneeze. A part of me I could do without. Festivito Jul 2016 #18
because they still have to be nominated, not official until they actually sign on the dotted line Sunlei Jul 2016 #19
Signing can happen anywhere. Although, yes, the GOP will be fun for laughs, but frustrating. Festivito Jul 2016 #27
It's not all show. sofa king Jul 2016 #22
A fly's chance in a blast furnace. That won't glue eyes to the TV. Festivito Jul 2016 #26
I will tell you when I get back Gothmog Jul 2016 #35
I hope it to be wonderful. eom Festivito Jul 2016 #38
Ask President Barack Obama. nt LexVegas Jul 2016 #36
YUP JI7 Jul 2016 #37
That was one great speech. eom Festivito Jul 2016 #39

MineralMan

(146,285 posts)
2. Process. It's all process.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jul 2016

Delegates have to cast their votes. The rest is secondary, but primary to publicity about the process.

emulatorloo

(44,112 posts)
9. To introduce candidates to a broad audience (people who aren't political junkies)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jul 2016

Curious why are you against the convention?

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
17. I see it as political wonk theater preaching to the chior and boring the ones we need to reach. eom
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jul 2016

So boring, they'll tune to a repeat of Lost in Space before watching space for the lost and directionless with nothing to do and nowhere to go for a week.

emulatorloo

(44,112 posts)
20. So how do you explain the 'convention bounce' candidates get in polls after the convention?
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jul 2016

It is not just the Choir that watches.

I expect Dem convention will be pretty darn good. Great line-up of speakers.

If you think it is boring and "lost and directionless," that's more about your attitude than those folks who will watch and get fired up for electing Democrats in November.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
24. True dat. But, one sided talk for a week LONG LONG LONG before the voting.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jul 2016

Blip. Followed by: What have you done for me lately?

NashuaDW

(90 posts)
3. ... and why are the taxpayers paying for them?
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jul 2016

Each party get over $18 million every four years for its prime-time infomercial.

That's money that could be used for a lot of other things.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
8. Ahh. It's because of socialism. The kind of socialism the GOP likes.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jul 2016

Gonna get millions of tax dollars. Gotta spend it. Wouldn't be prudent not to.

Makes sense.

Not a good reason that we fund it. But, makes sense on why it would still go on the air.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
5. They are pep rallies, basically.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jul 2016

Or, in the case of the GOP convention, train wrecks. That one might be worth watching just for the horror.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
10. There are better pep rallys to broadcast. But, the GOP trainwreck will be fun for some of us.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jul 2016

Wonder if they'll have that pathetic guy walking around in a Linconesque top hat. Or, some empty headed star talking to an empty chair.

I do hope they'll have a topper to those.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
12. Sounds like a big government paid for ad.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jul 2016

The introduction is done. The cohesion accomplished. The coalescing complete. The flesh already flayed and the main messages and players announced.

Yawn...

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
28. Ahh. Happenings and pep rallys. Ahh, recalling my mispent youth!
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jul 2016

Like Allen Sherman's My Aunt Mini wore a miniskirt.

...
She's cool. She's hip, a gas, a trip.
She went to a happening
but, didn't know it was happening.
and then she go-goed at a discotheque
Uncle Morris was a nervous wreck
Poor old Uncle Morris only lasted half a chorus
...

(I could go on and on and on)

PatSeg

(47,390 posts)
25. I know
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:31 PM
Jul 2016

Even as a kid, I thought it was exciting. Now it is just a big show, but like I said, it is publicity for the candidates, though not always good publicity. Clint Eastwood and his chair-that was unforgettable.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
29. The GOP's will be just a overly scripted version of Just for Laughs.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jul 2016

More like one of those anything but real reality shows.

We do need a good drinking game to go with it.

PatSeg

(47,390 posts)
30. I get a kick out of the ridiculous hats
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 02:22 PM
Jul 2016

and outfits some of the delegates wear. I remember the stupid purple heart band-aids in 2004. These people have no class whatsoever. The contrasts between the RNC and DNC conventions is so dramatic.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
31. Don't you mean 'unforgiven'?
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 02:23 PM
Jul 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
16. Like caucuses, conventions are an anachronism of politics past.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jul 2016

Think of them like a vestigial body part, like pinky toes or the appendix. Sure, we could survive without them, but for now, they're still part of us.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
18. More like a sneeze. A part of me I could do without.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jul 2016

Especially when there is no real purpose to it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
19. because they still have to be nominated, not official until they actually sign on the dotted line
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jul 2016
It will be be fun to see all those people speaking live, their words remembered forever more

Not much fun for Republicans, they didn't organize their convention until this past Sunday. No time to script or practice. Someone, at least one is bound to go rogue.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
27. Signing can happen anywhere. Although, yes, the GOP will be fun for laughs, but frustrating.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jul 2016

The pundits will make a stinky noisy porta-john sound, smell and look like a flutter of rose petals when it comes to the GOP. And, if we saved babies from certain death it would be called a stunt.

I guess I think our money would be better spent elsewhere. But, it's paid for, so let's keep our hands down until the ride starts and stay inside until the ride comes to a complete halt.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
22. It's not all show.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jul 2016

The Democratic Convention, at least, is still organized in such a way that a truly dangerous candidate can be spiked though the votes of superdelegates.

This system emerged more-or-less directly from the rise of racist George Wallace, who in 1968 attempted to usurp the Democratic Party in much the same way that racist Donald Trump has successfully done with the Republicans this year.

I know a lot of us Bernie people were put off by this system, but it remains a highly important safety-valve designed to make sure that a Trump cannot happen to us.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
26. A fly's chance in a blast furnace. That won't glue eyes to the TV.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jul 2016

But, it is a decent response and reason.

What we really need is better systems for voting. But, I digress.

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