I don't have a beef with tRump's wife.

[MoonRiver]

She's just another poor pawn in this psychopath's game. I actually feel sorry for her. Can't imagine how horrible it would be to be with that POS, intimately.

[Lint Head]

1. She must be strong to go to bed with a orangutan.

[MoonRiver]

4. An orangutan would be a step up.

Rump just tries to imitate one.

[fleabiscuit]

28. That's not fair at all. Orangutans are wonderful creatures. :-)

Dump is more like Jabba the Hutt. And just as real.

[liberalmuse]

2. Me neither.

She was probably the only speaker tonight who didn't spew hate, so I'll give her that.

[tallahasseedem]

3. Oh please...

she was an underwear model, his mistress and married for money. She got up and read a prepared speech from a teleprompter full of lies. Why she is being praised for this is beyond me.

[MoonRiver]

7. I hope you don't think I am praising her!

I just don't think she's relevant to what we are fighting. IOW she is someone to simply ignore.

[tallahasseedem]

8. I agree...

I'm just riled up from this shit fest. Sorry if I came off that way!

[scscholar]

27. If she lies, she needs to be held accountable for that!

Prison time is appropriate.

[LenaBaby61]

11. Oh please...

So agree with you.

The way an accomplished woman like Michelle Obama was raked over the coals being called the N-word, a commie sympathizer, monkey, gorilla, videos on youtube proclaiming that she was born a male, she's been called a prostitute. Such hideousness she still receives to this day and she's been one of the most intelligent FLOTUS' in history.

I have absolutely no pity for tRumps bought and paid for mail order, mistress, bride. Don't hate the woman, but could care less about her. She's had it much easier than Michelle has or will ever have it.

[tallahasseedem]

12. I agree...

which is why I have my back up. Democratic presidents have had some of the most amazing and brilliant first ladies. They have been viciously attacked by the RW, but we're supposed to be impressed because she came out and was okay with reading a pre-prepared speech from a teleprompter?

No, just no.

[NWCorona]

16. Aren't we supposed to be better than Republicans tho?

Two wrongs don't make a right

[LenaBaby61]

38. Aren't we supposed to be better than Republicans tho?

Oh, I consider myself leagues above the sea over Republicans about how THEY approach what's moral as opposed to a-moral.

Truth is truth, and Michelle has been raked over the coals and demonized these last 8 years something awful, mostly due to her skin color and due to her being an accomplished woman/person. So, given that tRump goes around calling women pigs and disrespecting them and worse, I feel compelled to talk about his wife's "sketchy" background, and to point out that the milk is nowhere NEAR clean in her glass either. Also, because of all the moralizing the GOP has done as it concerns Michelle Obama and how, like I've mentioned, she's been demonized something awful. Just shameful the way they've demonized her and as we know, most of what they've said has been proven as flat out LIES and innuendo. Mrs. tRump's nude pics are all over the internet, and there are less than unsavory stories about her background, also stories contracting HOW she REALLY got with tRump as well (Seems as if they really didn't meet at a party as tRump has insisted). See, the thing about moralizing while standing on top of a mountain is that when you point your finger at someone (As has been done to Michelle), there are going to be fingers pointing back at you--the moralizer.

Finally, the right wing has gotten away with far too much of that moralizing for too long. I understand the "we're better than them" credo. However, I also feel compelled to go after those over on their side and to set the record straight of who I consider a bunch of moralizing hypocrites. Michelle sure wasn't off-limits, neither were the Obama daughters, especially not these last several years, and I sure as heck am not going to give the right-wingers a pass on their faux-moralizing, especially given the fact that there are extra-large volumes of skeletons living and thriving in their closets.

[NWCorona]

47. Trust me I get where you are coming from as I love Michelle!

I also don't want you to think I'm saying you are as bad as them. Not at all. It's just that it's a slippery slope once we decide to go there.

[tallahasseedem]

44. Now she copied Michelle's speech!

ROFL!

[NWCorona]

46. Yeah I just noticed that thread lol

[tblue37]

53. And she didn't even have to write her own speech, since she just borrowed the one Michelle gave

at the DNC.

[LenaBaby61]

59. Borrowed....

IS too kind a word for what Mrs. Mail-Order bride did.

She STOLE--PLAGIARIZED a huge graph of Michelle's 2008 Convention Speech.

I thought Melania said she had little help writing her speech? Which is it Melania? Did you write it or just steal it yourself?

SO much for poor Melania. She knew how to STEAL part of a speech Michelle Obama wrote from 2008. IF Michelle were a thief like Melania (Which she isn't--she's truly intelligent), she'd be raked over, under, around, through and into the coals.

NO sympathy for #CrookedMelania

[840high]

22. So what?

[TexasBushwhacker]

43. Married for money? She is earning every damn penny

Talk about hard labor!

[tallahasseedem]

45. Now she stole...

an ACTUAL hard worker's speech...our beautiful First Lady Michelle Obama!

[TexasBushwhacker]

48. My guess is that it was stolen by a speechwriter n/t

[tallahasseedem]

49. But Melania said she wrote it herself!

ROFL!!!

[tblue37]

54. Maybe the person who created that hysterically funny first attempt at a logo

has a friend or sibling who wrote that speech for Melania.

It does seem as though both the logo design and the plagiarized speech are too bizarre to be accidental, doesn't it? Maybe the campaign is full of little moles.

[TexasBushwhacker]

72. That's what I'm thinking

I mean if Melania was the one who did the plagiarizing, wouldn't she at least steal from a Republican wife? Wouldn't she crib from Ann Romney or Laura Bush?

Then again, Trump didn't marry her because she was smart. But yes, even if the logo creater and speechwriter were once Trump supporters, I imagine getting to know him better and working for him changed their minds real quick.

[PatSeg]

5. I agree

She doesn't deserve to be criticized because her husband is a lying narcissist.

[MichiganVote]

9. She deserves criticism for the same reason he does.

Namely-rich, out of touch, hasn't done a damn thing for the public good in any capacity, has no notion of the constitution and its laws, has no class, could care less about this country and its history and has a sordid past. Neither of these two should be representing our country in any way, shape or form.

Nuff' said.

[PatSeg]

13. I don't think she has a lot to do

with her husband's ambitions and shouldn't be held responsible for him. I'm quite sure if she had her way, he wouldn't be running for president.

Going after a candidate's wife is something republicans are notorious for. They've never let up on Michelle Obama. We should be better than that.

[MichiganVote]

14. Cry me a river. She has choices same as anyone else.

There is NOTHING to recommend this woman as any form of representative for this country. She was his mistress, engaged in soft porn and has not shown one iota of interest in the public good.

These are facts and if they serve as an indictment of the disgust that women feel toward her, so be it. Its a free country and I can say what I want.

[PatSeg]

21. Well yes

of course you can say what you want. I just prefer to focus my energy towards her husband, who I think is an absolute disaster. Melania Trump is a rich man's trophy wife, not particularly my kind of person, but my criticisms are for her husband.

I am sincerely not trying to pick a fight.

[MichiganVote]

30. I understand. But I would suggest to you that the role of

a first lady is not to be the object of ridicule. How many times have we seen Michelle Obama ridiculed because of her race alone? Yet some rich guys white wife who posed naked in a magazine for all to see is exempt from criticism? Oh hell no.

Consider the amazing role models other women have been as 1st lady and then look at this designer tramp. Sickening. Every head of state and their wives will know of how little this combo has to offer. Other than a bare butt in some rag of a magazine. This RNC makeover of her being a model and then a business woman is pure tripe. I've known scores of beautiful women and women in business women. Somehow they managed to keep their shorts on.

That is not the lack of dignity we need now. It is not what we should accept and I have the energy to speak out about both of these fraudulent and amoral individuals.

[PatSeg]

35. I can't picture her as first lady

anymore than I can picture Donald Trump as president, but he will be on the ballot, not Melania. I can't believe Trump has so much Evangelical support. This family is everything that far right Christians abhor.

[MichiganVote]

36. They believe what they are told thru our corrupt media.

[PatSeg]

39. Yep

and maybe they believe they are ushering in the End Times. A Donald Trump presidency would surely be an apt beginning of the end.

[MichiganVote]

40. The beginning of the end started with Bush.

[PatSeg]

41. Agreed

What a nightmare those eight years were and the world has never fully recovered. I can't believe that republicans are going to vote for someone even worse. Sure ain't my father's republican party.

[tblue37]

56. This family is everything that far right Christians CLAIM TO abhor.

There--fixed that for you.

[840high]

25. She's not running for office.

[fleabiscuit]

33. Most of the Dump parade of clowns on stage are not running either.

But they all seemed to have a stake in the game. They brought it.

[AgadorSparticus]

58. She embodies the hypocrisy that her husband is trying to promote

While running for office. The attack is not against her, per say, as it is against the hypocrisy of immigration that is central to his platform.

If it was an attack against her, they would have gone after the fact that she dated him while he was still married to Marla. They would have called her a home wrecker and what not.

[Ms.Lib]

6. I second that...

but seriously grossed out right now

[MichiganVote]

10. They are both gross.

[phleshdef]

15. I haven't heard her say anything politically charged against anyone else.

So I pretty much feel the same way you do.

[MFM008]

17. its been her choice

but she latched onto an opportunity.

[NWCorona]

18. Agreed but some just wanna hate.

[Retrograde]

19. For someone who boasts about being in the fashion world

that dress doesn't particularly suit her IMHO - it seems too tight in some areas (or is she pregnant?).

Otherwise, an okay speech but nothing earth-shaking.

[PatSeg]

24. You know

she did do a good job on the speech, especially for someone not used to speaking in public, BUT I honestly can't remember a word she said. I'll bet I'm not the only one.

[tavernier]

20. Give her a break

She is soon to be swapped out for a new showroom special.

[AgadorSparticus]

23. I think the problem with Melania is that she is a lightening rod for what we hate to see in women.

Stand there, be pretty, do what is asked, and for the love of god, don't say anything or have an idea.

And what is frustrating is to see just how much of that is accepted, rewarded, and valued by so many people. I wonder if they teach their little girls this?

And then to stand back and watch brilliant women like Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama get raked over the coals over stupid shit things like their hair, or showing their arms, or that their hips are a little wider.

It is disgusting to see. The media is disgusting and complicit in fanning the flames of ignorance and bigotry in the knuckledraggers.

[840high]

26. She is a pretty woman and intelligent. The only

problem on DU is she's Trump's wife.

[AgadorSparticus]

29. She's intelligent? How so? I am not being snarky. I don't know how she is smart

Other than that she used her looks and married "well".

[MichiganVote]

31. +1

[840high]

42. Fluent in foreign languages.

[AgadorSparticus]

50. The fluent part is up for debate according to newsmax.

Speaking 5 languages is impressive from an American standpoint since we aren't big on foreign languages. But most Europeans speak a minimum of 3-4 languages. That is their average and to be expected of just about everyone. And because she was in the fashion industry, even moreso.

What impresses me would not be what is a common denominator amongst all europeans. It would be something that she did on her own merits. Did she do anything on her own? Besides be a lingerie model? Don't get me wrong. I don't knock it. You work with what God gave you. And more power to her and everyone in the fashion or beauty industry. They make good money and live glamorous lives.

But so often we equate beauty (i.e. very narrow set of facial features) with all these other positive traits: intelligence, charisma, benevolence, integrity..... we lift them up just by them being beautiful. It is human nature.

And conversrly, when someone actually HAS the intelligence but the wrong skin color or whose facial features are not within the accepted norm, we make bullshit excuses to denigrate them.

[lunamagica]

34. She's an anti-immigrant immigrant. enought said

[AgadorSparticus]

51. Yep!

[BlueMTexpat]

63. Good points all!

[AgadorSparticus]

71. Thank you bluemtexpat.

[The_Casual_Observer]

32. I wouldn't worry about that woman, she is well taken care of.

[sofa king]

37. "Anchor Babe"

Was the verdict on Twitch.tv, if one ignored the thousand cynical demands to "DEPORT."

[RandySF]

52. My beef

Is that no one will hold her to the same standard as Michalle Obama has been for the past eight years.

[Cosmocat]

70. fucking A

Michelle Obama would be eviscerated, just totally annihilated, had she took two paragraphs from Laura Bush in her speech.

Mercilessly.

[bettyellen]

55. She gets to own her speech like everyone else though. And she...

Fucked the fuck up. Lazy assholes.

[AgadorSparticus]

60. She or someone sure did! On a national platform like this...shameless!

[ForgoTheConsequence]

57. She isn't a victim here.

She is the one choosing to sleep with a racist, fascist, asshole. Now she STOLE a speech from one of the strongest first ladies in American history. Fuck her.

[bettyellen]

61. On morning Joe they are making her a martyr, lol. Let's not.

[BlueMTexpat]

62. Oh please - by giving in to Don the Con's megalomania and

accepting that such a buffoon should run for what is literally the most important job in the world - and then giving a speech on national television at the RNC in support of his run? And then lifting entire portions from Michelle's speech to do it?

She is a grown woman who made her choices. Let her experience at least some of the consequences of those choices. Perhaps experiencing just a tiny bit of the vitriol that Hillary and Michelle have endured constantly and consistently for years for no cause other than that they are STRONG women will make Melania convince her buffoon of a husband to just go away.

A pawn has no choices at all. Melania both has and had several options. She chose none of the good ones, except perhaps that she didn't actually spew the hatred that her husband and his supporters do. For that I give her credit.

[MoonRiver]

64. When I started this OP yesterday, she had not given her speech.

Things are a bit different now. She right smack in the middle of a shit storm!

[BlueMTexpat]

65. OK - context is everything.

At this time yesterday, your sentiments were certainly more justified!

[MoonRiver]

68. No problem!

[B Calm]

66. Stephen Colbert calls her God's Girlfriend.

[NCTraveler]

67. Bullshit. She is no pawn.

She is supporting a monster. No one has shown me how she is being abused to do so.

[betsuni]

69. I see her as Holly Golightly (Manhattan model/party girl) who bagged the elephant.

Not easy to do, takes a certain kind of smarts. Incredible she managed to keep it going this long. Most important is maintaining mystery at all costs, no letting on you're human (no farts, burbs, admitting you poop or sweat or menstruate, get pimples, etc.). That's dedication. I sure as hell couldn't do it for a minute.