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Doodley

(9,048 posts)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:34 AM Jul 2016

Speechwriter, Meredith McIver photoshopped picture with Trump and fake profile

Last edited Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Here's a photo, supposedly of Trump and McIver



Here's another one, same image of McIver in same room, no Trump



Photos can be seen on: https://twitter.com/imeredithmciver which is obviously fake and was created yesterday.

No Facebook or LinkedIn can be found.

No media have been able to contact her.

No record of her being on the Trump campaign payroll.

No evidence at all that she exists.

More info on on: https://www.good.is/articles/will-the-real-meredith-mciver-stand-up

This story is bigger than the plagiarism scandal that started it. It is bigger than the denial by the Trump Campaign. It is bigger than the campaign manager blaming Hillary Clinton. This is a story that needs to run and run.





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Speechwriter, Meredith McIver photoshopped picture with Trump and fake profile (Original Post) Doodley Jul 2016 OP
An obvious photoshop. Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #1
I did. white_wolf Jul 2016 #4
I am impressed you are already on the case. Doodley Jul 2016 #82
Here you go: white_wolf Jul 2016 #89
Good article - thanks for sharing! Doodley Jul 2016 #106
This thread has been covering the story since it broke, in detail, no BS L. Coyote Jul 2016 #112
McIver tweet: I assure you I am real, and that none of these photos are "photoshopped." riversedge Jul 2016 #17
I think it is obvious now the Twitter account is a hoax. Doodley Jul 2016 #83
Until we see the long form birth certificate, you should remain a birther L. Coyote Jul 2016 #114
Is it true that she used to day John Barron? nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #2
I have to think the person behind that Twitter account is a troll Maven Jul 2016 #3
I mentioned that in my article. white_wolf Jul 2016 #6
I agree with you--but I think the woman is real, the account is fake. MADem Jul 2016 #8
Yeah, I agree. The person is real but the account is fake... SidDithers Jul 2016 #45
But matt819 Jul 2016 #56
There's the ex-boyfriend--and that original pic (not the one with Trump) is the real one. MADem Jul 2016 #69
Yes, I agree. It is too obvious. Doodley Jul 2016 #84
And yet Melania tried puffy socks Jul 2016 #109
In her tweets KT2000 Jul 2016 #5
I think she is a pseudonym for Trump. King_Klonopin Jul 2016 #10
LOL! McGiver and McGruber KT2000 Jul 2016 #11
Trump used to call up tv shows and pretend he was his own agent and lie about all the things he had Squinch Jul 2016 #73
Yes, and by having a fictional co-author (who isn't the actual ghost writer) Doodley Jul 2016 #87
You do realize that twitter account is a joke, right? whopis01 Jul 2016 #80
Yes, and the second letter is obviously fake. Doodley Jul 2016 #88
Good point. Perhaps Trump's schizophrenic. Doodley Jul 2016 #85
Speaking as a person who creates 3d animation Wednesdays Jul 2016 #7
the picture of trump holding KT2000 Jul 2016 #12
I agree. Unreal berni_mccoy Jul 2016 #31
Does that look like a 65yo ex ballerina? bullimiami Jul 2016 #37
Yes, actually. She's been out of the ballet game for many, many years, now--she's MADem Jul 2016 #70
ok ill buy> now lets see if she is real> bullimiami Jul 2016 #118
LOLOLOL sarae Jul 2016 #110
It's truly sickening to see so many people asking to see my birth certificate... #sad Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #9
sad is another word trump uses often KT2000 Jul 2016 #13
look at Trump LittleGirl Jul 2016 #14
She is John Miller's wife. TeamPooka Jul 2016 #15
I had mentioned that on Facebook yesterday NewJeffCT Jul 2016 #81
I think there is also a left/right Trump flip Helen Borg Jul 2016 #16
Some of her earlier tweets discussing this riversedge Jul 2016 #18
You can still see the blue shirt woman's hair behind trump. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #19
This is so obviously photoshopped mindfulNJ Jul 2016 #20
Good catch! randome Jul 2016 #46
LOLOLOL! workinclasszero Jul 2016 #77
Andy Kaufman is SO NOT DEAD Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #21
How about THIS doozy from her Twitter page mindfulNJ Jul 2016 #22
okay, now that's just someone fucking around. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #23
They aren't even trying very hard mindfulNJ Jul 2016 #24
This is the best from her twitter account Person 2713 Jul 2016 #53
HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE HONESTY OF A WAR HERO Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #25
BWAHAHAHA mindfulNJ Jul 2016 #26
OMG sarae Jul 2016 #105
That is Ivanka's dress NeverDump Jul 2016 #68
And, another one. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #27
no words mindfulNJ Jul 2016 #28
Okay lillypaddle Jul 2016 #29
I'm starting to think this person- whoever they are- really did write the speech Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #30
McIver's head is lower resolution greymattermom Jul 2016 #32
It's either him mindfulNJ Jul 2016 #33
Seems legit... JHB Jul 2016 #34
Why is there no web existence of a 30 something ex professional ballerina? bullimiami Jul 2016 #35
She appears to be a scapegoat that Drumpf made and set-up to take the fall. Snarkoleptic Jul 2016 #36
Wait, I thought she was 65 years old NBachers Jul 2016 #40
This needs to be spread like a virus! Here's her Facebook, also pretty new! Her Sister Jul 2016 #38
From Joy Ann Reid Her Sister Jul 2016 #39
I think her name is mis-spelled in the headline. Isn't it Meredith, not Meridith? NBachers Jul 2016 #41
Thanks. I have corrected the spelling. Doodley Jul 2016 #51
That's gotta be a troll Twitter account... SidDithers Jul 2016 #42
I agree mindfulNJ Jul 2016 #43
Everything on both desks is exactly the same. randome Jul 2016 #44
Same room, not different room. MineralMan Jul 2016 #47
Sorry. I have corrected that mistake. Doodley Jul 2016 #52
Well, the original picture does depict Trump's real office. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #48
Same Photo: I googled image this photo Her Sister Jul 2016 #49
http://www.everipedia.com/meredith-mciver/ Her Sister Jul 2016 #50
So on that page jcgoldie Jul 2016 #55
Really!? Did not notice that! Her Sister Jul 2016 #57
Where do you see that? "Her friends are listed as John Barron and John Miller. Seriously?" Her Sister Jul 2016 #58
Its in the column on the left jcgoldie Jul 2016 #60
And this is not suspicious! She knows all these "people?" Her Sister Jul 2016 #61
I'd be more confident of her existence jcgoldie Jul 2016 #62
Why would she friend fake "Trump" people. Right? Her Sister Jul 2016 #63
This woman also compares the 2 photos and says you can see the woman's hair by Trumps head Her Sister Jul 2016 #64
They are obviously the same picture jcgoldie Jul 2016 #66
Has her existence been verified yet? bluestateguy Jul 2016 #54
Shadows on pictures on the wall are identical. B Calm Jul 2016 #59
This woman also compares the 2 photos and says you can see the woman's hair by Trumps head Her Sister Jul 2016 #65
The photoshops are so bad I have to think its someone just fucking around. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #91
I don't think so - it's probably Trump's staff womanofthehills Jul 2016 #92
There's just no way someone is thinking they could get away with this Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #94
First post NeverDump Jul 2016 #67
HAHA wtf? jcgoldie Jul 2016 #74
welcome to the discussion! DonRedwood Jul 2016 #97
Obviously fake -- look how big his hand is ! nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2016 #71
Why has she not been interviewed? DesertRat Jul 2016 #72
another photoshop from twitter Qutzupalotl Jul 2016 #75
What a complete amateur. Also the worst photoshop ever. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #116
Here's a picture that looks earily familiar... brooklynite Jul 2016 #76
Corporate media needs to do it's job for once RapSoDee Jul 2016 #78
Meredith McIver is the "Flat Stanley" of the Trump campaign! n/t woodsprite Jul 2016 #79
Hahaha! workinclasszero Jul 2016 #93
This would be the biggest political story since Watergate if McIver doesn't exist. yardwork Jul 2016 #86
There are 3 possibilities I see immediately. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #90
I agree with you, except I don't think this was a rickroll. yardwork Jul 2016 #100
No, I mean the rickroll in the actual speech. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #101
I know. And I'm pointing out that one of Trump's books has a similar title. yardwork Jul 2016 #102
Ah. Gotcha. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #103
Exactly. That's why we should all try to get to the bottom of it! Doodley Jul 2016 #108
"A ghost writer or a ghost? womanofthehills Jul 2016 #95
This Cosmopolitan piece is persuasive LAS14 Jul 2016 #96
The Guardian/Observer interview from 2007 that has the interviewer meeting her muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #98
I think McIver may be a real person, just sort of reclusive. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #104
Yeah, who knows what of the stuff that's appears over the past couple of days is real muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #107
Someone with that name came into the room and dropped a sheaf of papers on the desk? randome Jul 2016 #113
She works in the office. How much did you expect her to feature in a 2007 Trump interview? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #115
Who says she works there? Is that an assumption? randome Jul 2016 #117
The article says she works there. Trump shouted for her. No, it's not an assumption. muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #119
That article just confirms mindfulNJ Jul 2016 #99
Worst Photoshop ever. Damn, this is lame. Now who's the conspiracy theorist? L. Coyote Jul 2016 #111

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
4. I did.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:02 AM
Jul 2016

I didn't use that particular picture, but I called "her" out on other obvious photoshop in a recent article and even linked to the original. It was so blatant I was worried I had stumbled onto a troll account. Now will the mainstream media call him out? Somehow, I doubt it.

Doodley

(9,048 posts)
82. I am impressed you are already on the case.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jul 2016

Do you have a link to your article, I would love to read that.

riversedge

(70,093 posts)
17. McIver tweet: I assure you I am real, and that none of these photos are "photoshopped."
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:55 AM
Jul 2016



Meredith McIver ?@imeredithmciver 8h8 hours ago

Meredith McIver Retweeted Janelle, Janelle

I assure you I am real, and that none of these photos are "photoshopped."

Doodley

(9,048 posts)
83. I think it is obvious now the Twitter account is a hoax.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jul 2016

But is it a hoax by an independent troll, or a troll within the campaign. Again. this is all good fodder for a Trump reality show about the campaign after he loses the election.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
3. I have to think the person behind that Twitter account is a troll
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:48 AM
Jul 2016

It just...has to be. The bad photoshops are too much of a tip-off. No one would possibly be that clueless in trying to pull off a deception like this.

That said, I am still not convinced that Meredith McIver is a real person.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
6. I mentioned that in my article.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:03 AM
Jul 2016

Because honestly it was so fake that I didn't think it could be real. It was just too obvious.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. I agree with you--but I think the woman is real, the account is fake.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:17 AM
Jul 2016

NYT says she is a retired ballet dancer.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/melania-trump-speech-meredith-mciver.html?_r=0



CLEVELAND — In her mid-30s and slowed by injuries, Meredith McIver, a classically trained ballerina who had danced under the limelight with Balanchine and the ensembles of Broadway musicals, decided to pursue her passion for writing.

She tried her hand at short stories and poems in the style of Dylan Thomas before finding work writing advertising copy. “She was always very, very interested in writing as an art form,” said an ex-boyfriend, Stephen Palitz.

He said Ms. McIver brought a dancer’s discipline, precision and rigor to her work. “She’s adept at crystallizing phrases and saying things in an elegant straightforward way.”


Document: Trump Aide’s Statement on Melania Trump’s Speech
This week, Ms. McIver returned to center stage for her writing, but not in the manner she might have hoped.

“My name is Meredith McIver and I’m an in-house staff writer at the Trump Organization,” began an extraordinary statement she released Wednesday morning in which she took the blame for the disastrous plagiarism of Michelle Obama in Melania Trump’s prime-time speech Monday at the Republican National Convention.

In the statement, Ms. McIver, a 65-year-old co-author of several books with Donald J. Trump, said that as she and Ms. Trump were preparing her speech, Ms. Trump mentioned that she admired Mrs. Obama and read to Ms. McIver parts of the first lady’s 2008 speech at the Democratic convention.

Ms. McIver said she had inadvertently left portions of the Obama speech in the final draft.

“This was my mistake,” she wrote. She wrote that she had offered her resignation, but that the Trumps had rejected it. “Mr. Trump told me that people make innocent mistakes and that we learn and grow from these experiences.”.....



The whole article is worth a look.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
45. Yeah, I agree. The person is real but the account is fake...
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:33 AM
Jul 2016

Here's McIver in a picture from Trump's book "How to Get Rich", which she co-wrote.



"Meredith McIver, Rhona Graff, and Norma Foerderer of The Trump Organization"

That's the same woman in the photoshops.


But I gotta believe that the twitter account is fake.

Sid

matt819

(10,749 posts)
56. But
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jul 2016

There's nothing in the article about any independent and reliable source actually confirming that she exists or that she did what is claimed. San opportunist, i.e., anyone associated with trump, would have a verifiable online history. She doesn't.

Family?

Non trump related friends

Actual people who can show non photoshopped images of her.

Etc.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
69. There's the ex-boyfriend--and that original pic (not the one with Trump) is the real one.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jul 2016

AND her ballet work; there's got to be a record of that.

I think she is real. I think she knows a lot of Trump secrets, and is a willing dogsbody.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
109. And yet Melania tried
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jul 2016

to get away with plagerizing Michelle Obama's speech.

So yeah, I'd say Mr and Mrs Trump would possibly be that clueless in trying to pull off a deception like this.

KT2000

(20,568 posts)
5. In her tweets
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:03 AM
Jul 2016

she has adopted the trump superlatives - fantastic! most successful company in the world!, tremendous and wonderful direction (letter), wonderful as in wonderful trump, wonderful family, wonderful John Barron and John Miller, wonderful time (writing book with trump)
She has either been brainwashed or this is trump on twitter.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
10. I think she is a pseudonym for Trump.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:41 AM
Jul 2016

He has been caught pretending to be other people.
I think he is McIver and McGruber

KT2000

(20,568 posts)
11. LOL! McGiver and McGruber
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:58 AM
Jul 2016

Exactly - why would she say the fake PR guys John Miller and John Barron were wonderful. BTW - Barron is his son's name.

Squinch

(50,922 posts)
73. Trump used to call up tv shows and pretend he was his own agent and lie about all the things he had
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jul 2016

going on.

I think this woman is just part of a sham.

Doodley

(9,048 posts)
87. Yes, and by having a fictional co-author (who isn't the actual ghost writer)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jul 2016

he has somebody to blame for factual errors.

whopis01

(3,491 posts)
80. You do realize that twitter account is a joke, right?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jul 2016

It's clearly someone trolling. The photoshops are meant to look awful.

Wednesdays

(17,321 posts)
7. Speaking as a person who creates 3d animation
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:06 AM
Jul 2016

It's entirely possible to create a 3d model of a person that does not exist in reality, and make it look so life-like, no one cold tell the difference. Ergo, even the woman in the photo could have been synthesized.

KT2000

(20,568 posts)
12. the picture of trump holding
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:00 AM
Jul 2016

her arms up at the podium looks absolutely strange. (on the twitter page)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
70. Yes, actually. She's been out of the ballet game for many, many years, now--she's
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jul 2016

got more years away from ballet than she spent growing up, learning to dance, and dancing professionally. It was a brief career, but yes, she looks like she has the build of a ballerina.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
110. LOLOLOL
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jul 2016

Doing investigative work on 65yo ex-ballerinas...

How the fck did we get here?! Thanks, Donald!

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
81. I had mentioned that on Facebook yesterday
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jul 2016

Probably hiding out at an undisclosed location with John Miller...

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
16. I think there is also a left/right Trump flip
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:38 AM
Jul 2016

Something is a hit off. I think they could not find a left hand version of the thumb up and so they flipped a right hand version.

riversedge

(70,093 posts)
18. Some of her earlier tweets discussing this
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:06 AM
Jul 2016



Meredith McIver ?@imeredithmciver 10h10 hours ago

Meredith McIver Retweeted Katy Vernon

I'll be reporting you to the authorities for abuse.

Meredith McIver added,
Katy Vernon @LondonKaty
You're hilarious #deleteyourfakeaccount https://twitter.com/imeredithmciver/status/755905054004027392
1 retweet 3 likes
Meredith McIver ?@imeredithmciver 10h10 hours ago

Meredith McIver Retweeted (((Rav KellyL)))

Thank you!

Meredith McIver added,
(((Rav KellyL))) @ExitPass
the @imeredithMcIver account is really informative.
0 retweets 0 likes






Meredith McIver ?@imeredithmciver 10h10 hours ago

Meredith McIver Retweeted Jon Segall

You would do the same thing to defend your name.

Meredith McIver added,
Jon Segall @JonSegall
.@imeredithmciver @realDonaldTrump C'mon that is a total photoshop... Ok really guys stop this. Just stop... This is bad. New account today?
0 retweets 0 likes







Meredith McIver ?@imeredithmciver 10h10 hours ago

Meredith McIver Retweeted Joy Reid

It feels good to be vindicated!

Meredith McIver added,


Joy Reid @JoyAnnReid
Finally, an answer! #MeredithMcIver IS real. No, she's not a Democrat (not anymore) - https://twitter.com/tsgnews/status/755876662697455617 … @tsgnews
0 retweets 0 likes




Meredith McIver ?@imeredithmciver 10h10 hours ago

Meredith McIver Retweeted Katy Vernon

As you can see, I'm not wearing a bracelet in that picture, so no, it is not the same picture.



Meredith McIver added,
Katy Vernon @LondonKaty
@imeredithmciver @realDonaldTrump um, isn't this the exact same pic?? #photoshop
1 retweet 2 likes





Katy Vernon
?@LondonKaty

@imeredithmciver @realDonaldTrump


um, isn't this the exact same pic?? #photoshop










Meredith McIver ?@imeredithmciver 10h10 hours ago

Meredith McIver Retweeted Social Media Jobs

I felt I had to join to set the record straight. Unfortunately, many fake accounts began popping up too...

Meredith McIver added,
Social Media Jobs @JobsinSosh
So did Meredith McIver just join Twitter 6 hours ago? @imeredithmciver so confused as all her #socialmedia accounts were created today
0 retweets 1 like



Meredith McIver ?@imeredithmciver 10h10 hours ago

Meredith McIver Retweeted AnonBruja

Both John Miller and John Barron are wonderful people. Why do you enjoy trying to tear apart people's lives?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
19. You can still see the blue shirt woman's hair behind trump.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:10 AM
Jul 2016

A really obvious bad photoshop job. Also the clone tool "window" by the left side of his head.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
46. Good catch!
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:37 AM
Jul 2016

And both rooms are exactly the same. Not sure why the OP said "different room". It's the same room and both desks are exactly the same.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
[/center][/font][hr]

mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
22. How about THIS doozy from her Twitter page
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:26 AM
Jul 2016

She has photoshopped the same pic in the same jacket onto someone else's body.

greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
32. McIver's head is lower resolution
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:14 AM
Jul 2016

than the rest of the picture. Her linkedin account is totally fake looking too. Maybe Rachel can try to get an interview with her. I think it's him.

mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
33. It's either him
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:21 AM
Jul 2016

or it's a fake twitter account, not the real Meredith McIver, if she really exists. SO BIZARRE.

bullimiami

(13,076 posts)
35. Why is there no web existence of a 30 something ex professional ballerina?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 07:20 AM
Jul 2016

No pictures. No video. No nothing.

That doesn't seem possible.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
39. From Joy Ann Reid
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:01 AM
Jul 2016
Joy ReidVerified account
?@JoyAnnReid
Serious question: has any news outlet seen or interviewed Meredith McIver? Asking because of the GOP candidate's history of using aliases.


Serious question: has any news outlet seen or interviewed Meredith McIver? Asking because of the GOP candidate's history of using aliases.

mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
43. I agree
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:30 AM
Jul 2016

I think? You never know with Trump. His ego is big enough that he might think he could pull this off...or it is his way of trying to get out of this whole thing.

There are no other links to this Meredith person anywhere else. Bizarre.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
44. Everything on both desks is exactly the same.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:32 AM
Jul 2016

What do you mean by "different room"? They are the same. They are exactly the same.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
[/center][/font][hr]

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
48. Well, the original picture does depict Trump's real office.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:57 AM
Jul 2016
?quality=80

So whoever this lady is probably has some relationship with Trump, but probably not a high ranking one. Whether that's the Meredith McIver or someone else, who knows?

She could in fact totally exist...but I seriously doubt she's the one who wrote the plagiarized speech for Michelle Trump.
 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
49. Same Photo: I googled image this photo
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:05 AM
Jul 2016
Meredith McIver
?@imeredithmciver
I just wanted to set the record straight. @realDonaldTrump is a wonderful man.




https://twitter.com/imeredithmciver/status/755872297823510528










"I have known Donna Root since 2005 when we worked together speaking throughout the United States. I had the opportunity to work with Donna as well as to hear her speak all over the country. She has a dynamic presence, positive and clear thought provoking program. Donna is passionate about lifting other people up and helping them reach their greatest potential. Donna's integrity is an attribute that adds significantly to her dimensions as a speaker, consultant, writer and a friend. It has been a joy to be able to work with this amazing woman."
http://prosperinfluence.org/testimonials/


 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
58. Where do you see that? "Her friends are listed as John Barron and John Miller. Seriously?"
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jul 2016
Her friends are listed as John Barron and John Miller. Seriously?

jcgoldie

(11,613 posts)
62. I'd be more confident of her existence
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jul 2016

If she had any friends that weren't Trumps or fake Trumps lol.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
64. This woman also compares the 2 photos and says you can see the woman's hair by Trumps head
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jul 2016
http://imgur.com/gallery/MHJUt


With Diamond Donna Root
So out of curiosity seeing the name pop up with regards to the whole speech plagiarism I decided to google who this lady was. This was the first image that popped up. I've seen part of it used elsewhere where you can make out Root's hair in other images.


With Donald Trump
This image was number 5 or 6 and was from Mciver's twitter page... You can see Root's hair behind his head and the fact that Mciver never moves so much as a muscle in the two photos makes me think someone has been photoshopping poorly again.


I looked and it's true! Why the need to photoshop this photo?

jcgoldie

(11,613 posts)
66. They are obviously the same picture
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jul 2016

The question I have is are these profiles coming from Mciver herself or pranksters having fun on the internet?

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
54. Has her existence been verified yet?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jul 2016

To be fair here not everybody has an online presence.

Or she could just be a composite character of several people.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
65. This woman also compares the 2 photos and says you can see the woman's hair by Trumps head
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jul 2016
http://imgur.com/gallery/MHJUt


With Diamond Donna Root
So out of curiosity seeing the name pop up with regards to the whole speech plagiarism I decided to google who this lady was. This was the first image that popped up. I've seen part of it used elsewhere where you can make out Root's hair in other images.


With Donald Trump
This image was number 5 or 6 and was from Mciver's twitter page... You can see Root's hair behind his head and the fact that Mciver never moves so much as a muscle in the two photos makes me think someone has been photoshopping poorly again.


I looked and it's true! Why the need to photoshop this photo?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
94. There's just no way someone is thinking they could get away with this
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jul 2016

And not have people notice.

It doesnt really pass the smell test.




But then someone put a rickroll in the speech, too. Who knows what the truth is anymore.

NeverDump

(32 posts)
67. First post
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jul 2016

There is another pic on Twitter where she is photoshopped over Ivanka.

http://twitter.com/imeredithmciver/status/755874044990230528/photo/1

What the hell is wrong with this family?

PS. Hi everyone. First time poster but been reading for a while.

RapSoDee

(421 posts)
78. Corporate media needs to do it's job for once
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:55 PM
Jul 2016

This horrible pack of Republican lies must be outed. And all the others as well.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
86. This would be the biggest political story since Watergate if McIver doesn't exist.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jul 2016

That top photo is obviously photoshopped. The people in it are not in the same proportion.

If Donald Trump made up a person who took the fall for plagiarizing Michelle Obama's words in Melania Trump's speech, thus faking the letter from this person, it's hard to describe how big a story that would be. (That's assuming that the media didn't turn tail and run away from it, which they seem to be doing.)

As far as I know, it would be unprecedented for a major party's presidential candidate to have actually *made up* the person supposedly responsible for the campaign's unethical lapse.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
90. There are 3 possibilities I see immediately.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jul 2016

One, the person does exist, but is reclusive and/or not terribly internet savvy, and the twitter account is just some wag having a good time.

Two, the person does not exist, and the twitter account is some wag having a good time.

Three, the person does not exist, and the twitter account is just a mind-boggling inept attempt by someone with the Trump campaign to maintain the charade.

Of all of them, (3) strikes me as the most unlikely, because the photoshops are just THAT BAD. Still, someone also stuck the rickroll in Melania's speech, so who the fuck knows. Maybe there's a 4th option, in that 4chan has stuck a mole in Trump's campaign and is performing a deep operation mindfuck for the lulz.


The only possibility that clearly is NOT logically rational is that this person is real, exists, and this is their actual twitter account.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
100. I agree with you, except I don't think this was a rickroll.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jul 2016

Note that one of the ghostwritten books has a title very similar to the original rickroll. I see two possibilities re that - one, the ghostwriter rickrolled Trump years ago or two, Trump's team is that dumb.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
101. No, I mean the rickroll in the actual speech.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jul 2016

The fact that she said "He will never give up. And he will never, ever let you down" It could be a coincidence, but it's still pretty funny.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
102. I know. And I'm pointing out that one of Trump's books has a similar title.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:51 PM
Jul 2016

Trump Never Give Up, written by Donald Trump with Meredith McIver, published in 2008.

womanofthehills

(8,665 posts)
95. "A ghost writer or a ghost?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:14 PM
Jul 2016

Meredith McIver: The mystery of the Trump employee behind Melania’s plagiarised RNC 2016 speech

The pleasingly alliterative name of Donald Trump’s employee, the woman who supposedly helped to write Melania Trump’s speech for the RNC and which turned out to contain passages that matched Michelle Obama’s 2008 speech word for word, has no verified Twitter account and no LinkedIn profile.

There is growing speculation that the name is simply an alias, a fictional name for the Trump campaign to hide behind as Republicans and Democrats alike are furious that the potential First Lady has fluffed her first major appearance.

Is this another of Mr Trump’s scams, surrounding himself with make believe friends?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/meredith-mciver-rnc-speechwriter-melania-trump-donald-trump-allias-a7147081.html

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
98. The Guardian/Observer interview from 2007 that has the interviewer meeting her
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jul 2016

seems to it to rest:

Trump has what some of his employees refer to as an open-door policy; its main function seems to be that he can shout at them through it.

'Would you get me a biography please!'

Meredith McIver, one of the assistants who doubles as his ghost writer, scuttles in with a few sheets of paper, on which a company bio is printed in bold and written in similar fashion: 'A schoolboy's dream ... a competitor's challenge. Donald J Trump is the very definition of the American success story. In August 2006, Mr Trump was voted by the staff and writers of Business Week as one of the Top 10 most competitive business people on the planet.'

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2007/jan/07/media.citynews

They'd have no reason to play along with inventing that.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
104. I think McIver may be a real person, just sort of reclusive.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:18 PM
Jul 2016

Someone jumped on twitter and started fucking around though, and it's hysterically funny.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
107. Yeah, who knows what of the stuff that's appears over the past couple of days is real
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jul 2016

But they've been introducing someone by that name to people for years, and using that name as a co-writer/ghost writer on several Trump books for years, and there are some public records for someone of that name in New York. If the dubious-looking photo hadn't appeared, I don't think anyone would take "she doesn't exist" seriously.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
113. Someone with that name came into the room and dropped a sheaf of papers on the desk?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jul 2016

I'd hardly call that 'meeting her'. I'm not one to jump on speculation of this type but I'm seriously wondering what's up with this person.
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muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
115. She works in the office. How much did you expect her to feature in a 2007 Trump interview?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jul 2016

Yes, it literally was 'meeting her'. She comes back in later, and takes down the details of some guy who said something good about Trump. The article points out she wrote some of the 'Trump' books. They have indeed used her name, on the covers. There's basic public information about someone with that name in New York - buying property, registering to vote.

OK, what's "up" with her? Is the problem that she didn't have a Twitter of Facebook account, and now someone had made those up?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
117. Who says she works there? Is that an assumption?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jul 2016

She may be on the payroll but that doesn't mean she works in an office. It's starting to look to me like her 'job' is to show up briefly when it may be advantageous and then to quickly disappear again.

And anyone can claim to have helped write a book. Someone with that name in real life does not mean it's the same person who has been tirelessly working for Trump for all these years.

I still get emails at work for the 'other' randome at my office.
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muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
119. The article says she works there. Trump shouted for her. No, it's not an assumption.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:05 AM
Jul 2016

It's there in front of you, in black and white.

"It's starting to look to me like her 'job' is to show up briefly when it may be advantageous and then to quickly disappear again."

You're talking as if you've had a watch on Trump's offices for the past 10 years. You claim it was "advantageous" that she had a walk-on role in a Trump interview in 2007, but you think you should have more personal knowledge of her movements since then.

What is it, in your extensive knowledge of the Trump office personnel in the past decade, that troubles you?

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