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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:47 AM Jul 2016

Cruz defends distance from Trump: I won't be 'servile puppy'

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) on Thursday morning defended distancing himself from Donald Trump, refusing to say he’s voting for Trump and ripping the Republican National Convention’s response to his speech the night before.

Speaking to Texas’s delegation at the convention at a Thursday breakfast, Cruz said his pledge to support the GOP’s eventual nominee was “abrogated” when the campaign between Trump and him became personal.

“I am not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father,” he said.

"Neither he nor his campaign has taken back a word of what they said about my family,” Cruz added, his voice rising. He was referring to Trump floating rumors alleging his father was involved in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and retweeted a disparaging picture of Cruz's wife, Heidi.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/288645-cruz-wont-say-whether-hes-voting-for-trump

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Cruz defends distance from Trump: I won't be 'servile puppy' (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2016 OP
The longer he keeps himself in the press right now, tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #1
Exactly. Keep talking, Ted! auntpurl Jul 2016 #10
Hee Hee Hee! Her Sister Jul 2016 #51
Bwahahahahaha!!! JoePhilly Jul 2016 #2
Cruz just reaffirmed last night that he is an equal opportunity prick. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #3
yep; so much for the "pledge" everyone made such a big deal over! nt 7962 Jul 2016 #40
Wait, I read from Tweety and CNN that this is a ummmm, set up reality show by Iliyah Jul 2016 #4
I think Trump staged the response jcgoldie Jul 2016 #8
Food fight! C_U_L8R Jul 2016 #5
karma for the short-fingered vulgarian nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #6
I respect Ted for defending his wife and father. Justice Jul 2016 #7
Couldn't agree more. Like he said, when you attack my wife and my father, all previously agreed Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #12
My thoughts exactly. cwydro Jul 2016 #21
Like everybody keeps saying, this convention is totally without precedent! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #22
Same here. maddiemom Jul 2016 #34
Agreed - monumental asshole, but he is right to defend his family from that baboon. nt Lucky Luciano Jul 2016 #24
There are very very many Republicans that don't want to vote for Trump Sheepshank Jul 2016 #32
Of all the people we have to bestow our respect to... LiberalLovinLug Jul 2016 #37
Same gogo_du Jul 2016 #44
This slimeball is trying to make me respect him liberal N proud Jul 2016 #9
You can see why Boehner thought he was an asshole alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #11
Well, if you're going to be an asshole, be the biggest and best you can be! bulloney Jul 2016 #17
If I could creat animated gifs, I would totally make one with Cruz's head bullwinkle428 Jul 2016 #13
Dare I say that I respect Ted Cruz for one reason...and one reason only... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #14
Eh, he's more likely doing it because he knows Trump will lose in November auntpurl Jul 2016 #15
Agreed. But I still give him some credit for defending his family. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #19
FReaks & Conservatives are up in arms vowing that Cruz is finished as a Republican. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #20
+1!!! Dustlawyer Jul 2016 #23
Agreed. Cruz is messianic crazy. kairos12 Jul 2016 #27
Which is why this is my new favorite moment of the convention lakercub Jul 2016 #28
Well at least you got to give him credit for something he can hold a grudge Legends303 Jul 2016 #16
Sausage Time! They_Live Jul 2016 #18
Ted was never a team player PatSeg Jul 2016 #25
Cruz is crazier by half than Drumpt. kairos12 Jul 2016 #26
LOL! I love this! Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #29
...except for *real* billionaires. n/t Orsino Jul 2016 #30
I have to give him props for that much. Most of the rest of them don't have the spine of a slug. Hekate Jul 2016 #31
The contrast between Cruz and the mealy-mouthed Ryan and McConnell could KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #36
Whatever excuse Cruz wants to use to back out of his word. keithbvadu2 Jul 2016 #33
Yeah. Basically having your wife called ugly and your dad called an assassin ... maddiemom Jul 2016 #35
Are you talking about Christie or Carson? keithbvadu2 Jul 2016 #38
I am talking about the originator of those remarks: Donald Trump. maddiemom Jul 2016 #41
Yes, Trump bullied and harassed everyone during the Primary Her Sister Jul 2016 #39
Can't stand Cruz . . . makes my skin crawl . . . having said that . . . standing up for his wife and Liberal In Red State Jul 2016 #42
Good Lord Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #43
I cannot bring myself to say I respect Cruz, but I do... 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #45
I'm just enjoying the fact that Demobrat Jul 2016 #46
I'm not a Cruz fan, but I respect him way, way more than Spit-Shine Christie, Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #47
Amazing they both *claim* to be Christian RoadRunner Jul 2016 #48
Ted Crudz is just a different dog of the same species as Trump mdbl Jul 2016 #49
This is the difference between the Dem divide and the GOP divide Tarc Jul 2016 #50

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. Wait, I read from Tweety and CNN that this is a ummmm, set up reality show by
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jul 2016

the a-hole, T-rump. Also, Pence who?????

Justice

(7,185 posts)
7. I respect Ted for defending his wife and father.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:05 AM
Jul 2016

I also respect his point about campaign not apologizing for what was said.


 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
12. Couldn't agree more. Like he said, when you attack my wife and my father, all previously agreed
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jul 2016

pledges are "abrogated".

I have more respect for him now than previously. Still near zero, but slightly more than before.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
32. There are very very many Republicans that don't want to vote for Trump
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jul 2016

they just don't want to be the only ones, but the have a conscience, they have standards, a moral compass that is screaming at them to walk away from Trump.

As I'd said on another post, Ted Cruz just pulled his finger out of the hole in the dam. Others are going to follow their conscience. Add that to the Bush Co no show, the Kasich no show, Ryan's very public hesitancy and delays in endorsing..... Trump is in trouble.

Trump may tweet that it's no big deal.....but he's a consummate liar. It's a big deal, and many others will follow Ted's lead (many likely will vote very privately to avoid a public flogging).

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
37. Of all the people we have to bestow our respect to...
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jul 2016

But I agree. What kind of man would let those kinds of personal attacks on family members stand? And not only that go up before crowds and praise and endorse the person that has attacked...who has never even apologized? Meanwhile Christie submits like a good puppy after being insulted left and right by Trump during the primaries.

To me, it would be surprising if he HAD endorsed. But then why have him speak at all? This gamble will pay off for Cruz I fear. After the Don crashes and burns...whether he actually wins or not...Ted will be the "wounded but not fallen" candidate that rises from the ashes. The one with..... .....integrity.

gogo_du

(29 posts)
44. Same
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jul 2016

I'm getting more and more concerned that more people aren't standing up for themselves after that brutal process. With all the name calling and deeply personal insults. Is this what we are heading towards?

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
11. You can see why Boehner thought he was an asshole
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jul 2016

He really is! But it's so great that he is.

That said, I think they need to bring back the real context: Donald Trump called Cruz's wife ugly, and his father a murderer! I mean, honestly.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
17. Well, if you're going to be an asshole, be the biggest and best you can be!
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:49 AM
Jul 2016

I would say Cruz lives by that rule.

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
13. If I could creat animated gifs, I would totally make one with Cruz's head
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:07 AM
Jul 2016

on a scorpion body, stalking a frog-bodied Trump head!

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
14. Dare I say that I respect Ted Cruz for one reason...and one reason only...
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jul 2016

He is protecting and honoring the dignity of his wife and father, unlike John McCain who still supposed Bush after he allowed KKKarl Rove to go after his wife and adopted daughter.

I have much respect for Cruz on this issue alone.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
15. Eh, he's more likely doing it because he knows Trump will lose in November
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jul 2016

and he's positioning himself for 2020.

He's a snake, but he's not stupid.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
23. +1!!!
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jul 2016

He is a cold and calculating asshole who is only doing this to set up his next run. By doing this he is betting the farm that Trump will lose. This sets him apart from whoever will run on the Republican side next time and he is playing the odds.

I was hoping Trump would get the nomination because giving Cruz a shot at the White House was even scarier than Trump. Cruz is smart and evil, Trump is just ignorant and nuts!

lakercub

(659 posts)
28. Which is why this is my new favorite moment of the convention
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jul 2016

He actually was remarkably stupid here, if he had future aspirations. He's absolutely right to trash any agreement with Trump after the Trump attacks on his family, but going out to center stage and making it an "all about Ted" moment is looked upon as absolute betrayal by most of the republicans. Two years from now they won't remember all the stupid crap they supported from Trump, or all the Trump BS (these folks are good at forgetting what they once believed with all their hearts), but they will remember betrayal. Cruz doomed himself permanently yesterday in what I can only describe as a Kamikaze attack on Trump.

Melania's a plagiarist, nobody's talking about Pence on Pence's big day, Cruz is done, the party is in turmoil, and no one who is undecided has heard any reason whatsoever why they should vote Trump, only why they should hate Hillary. Short of a natural gas leak in the stadium igniting, I don't know how this convention can get any worse for them.

PatSeg

(47,285 posts)
25. Ted was never a team player
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jul 2016

in the senate, which is why no one on either side of the aisle could stand him.

Glad he didn't bow down to the Trump though. He really didn't have anything to lose.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
35. Yeah. Basically having your wife called ugly and your dad called an assassin ...
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jul 2016

is a pretty lame excuse for "backing out" of your word. I despise Cruz and know he was being somewhat self-serving here, but the lack of backbone in the other former candidates (Please, Sir, may I have another?) is truly disgusting.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
41. I am talking about the originator of those remarks: Donald Trump.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:48 PM
Jul 2016

Notice I said "basically called", meaning he "insinuated" his way around the accusations, but made his insults perfectly clear.

42. Can't stand Cruz . . . makes my skin crawl . . . having said that . . . standing up for his wife and
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jul 2016

father . . . he should have said it on the convention floor not wait until the next morning. Who knows maybe last night killed his chances in 2 years! 👏🏻

3catwoman3

(23,951 posts)
45. I cannot bring myself to say I respect Cruz, but I do...
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jul 2016

...think he did the right thing not to roll over for the bully.

RoadRunner

(4,492 posts)
48. Amazing they both *claim* to be Christian
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:19 PM
Jul 2016

When Jesus was very clear when he said if you want to follow me, deny your self. Both of them are all in for their self, nothing else matters to them. It's all about them.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
49. Ted Crudz is just a different dog of the same species as Trump
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:34 AM
Jul 2016

And if he thinks anyone gives a sh&% about his anger, he's sadly mistaken. His own party kicked him to the curb. Take the hint Ted. Maybe there's a job for you on a shopping channel.

Tarc

(10,475 posts)
50. This is the difference between the Dem divide and the GOP divide
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:56 AM
Jul 2016

We differed, sometimes sharply on policy, on ideology.

The GOP differed on a deeply personal level; small hands, hot wives, and other nonsense.

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