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Scuttlebutt is....Kaine's the one (Original Post) Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 OP
no, no, no! chillfactor Jul 2016 #1
He adds Virginia. That's enough. nt Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #10
VA was safely in the blue column without him. VA is not a swing state at all this year. LonePirate Jul 2016 #19
You and I define 'safely' differenty. nt Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #27
If Virginia is a blue state GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #61
When I watched his Univision interview I had a feeling it would be him. NWCorona Jul 2016 #41
YES YES YES! He adds TONS to the ticket, WAY more than Warren. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #56
I prefer DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #2
Yah, it's just a tweet from some guy named KMOD Jul 2016 #4
It was retweeted by Ben Tribbet Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #12
Did Ben provide a link? KMOD Jul 2016 #15
Do you understand how twitter works? Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #16
Yes. KMOD Jul 2016 #20
Well other than being a steady stream of word vomit MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #24
Unrec. femmocrat Jul 2016 #3
Like him better than Big Ag guy kwolf68 Jul 2016 #5
... TDale313 Jul 2016 #6
I'm really hoping that you guy's learn to lover Tim Kaine Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #13
Convince me. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #23
I don't know if I can convince you, he'll have to do that, however Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #32
His selection might cause a lot of progressives The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #43
' he's basically just another boring old white guy' Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #52
As Governor Kaine signed into law the Marshall-Newman Amendment, which defined marriage in Virginia Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #59
He signed it because 60% of the state voted to ratify it, and the only way to kill it, was to sign Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #60
The party needs the same on choice. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #68
I am so disappointed in this pick...and there weren't many choices that would have disappointed me. StevieM Jul 2016 #7
Vilsack sucks kwolf68 Jul 2016 #9
Tom Vilsack is 65 BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #14
I am not looking for a running-mate that will be set up to run for president. Besides, I expect StevieM Jul 2016 #17
Disappointing pick. Meh. nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #8
Bleh. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #11
deal breaker! Cobalt Violet Jul 2016 #18
Oh stop it. woolldog Jul 2016 #22
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #35
You'll vote for Clinton and you'll like it. woolldog Jul 2016 #49
I'll hate it. Cobalt Violet Jul 2016 #51
Have you been watching the RNC? woolldog Jul 2016 #53
seems legit ! stonecutter357 Jul 2016 #45
I've watched all her joint rallies, and I think they have the best chemistry. Native Jul 2016 #21
Beyond disappointing. Barack_America Jul 2016 #25
You're being silly. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #26
I'm being honest. He brings nothing to the ticket. Barack_America Jul 2016 #31
Worked on me. nt Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #33
You voted already? Barack_America Jul 2016 #36
. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #39
LOL! nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #29
I'm not saying this is wrong but Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #28
I guess we'll see. Like i said, Ben Tribbett (@notlarrysabato)retweeted this and according to me... Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #37
"Clinton and Kaine are able"? KamaAina Jul 2016 #30
CK1 bigwillq Jul 2016 #48
If this is true dflprincess Jul 2016 #34
Let's be fairly honest. She has those votes. nt Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #38
Not necessarily dflprincess Jul 2016 #44
It would be bad judgement to pick him. Cobalt Violet Jul 2016 #40
Well, that creates a good reason to talk about Honduras again, John Poet Jul 2016 #42
I trust the nominee to pick her running mate! Her Sister Jul 2016 #46
Solid choice as far as VA goes bigwillq Jul 2016 #47
All good points. He's not exciting, but he's a worker, and that is what you want in a VP Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author johara Jul 2016 #54
Can I disagree? Because I disagree. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #55
If true this is disappointing to me (I really wanted Warren) Peigan68 Jul 2016 #57
When Al Gore selected Joe Liberman I thought Al knows better than I. B Calm Jul 2016 #58
Joe, I'm elated to have you on board. grossproffit Jul 2016 #62
As goes Virginia... Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #64
I wish Clinton would do something to make me excited about voting for her.. hollowdweller Jul 2016 #63
LOL. CharlotteVale Jul 2016 #65
Not excited MelSC Jul 2016 #66
And hey, he wants to deregulate the banks! Not like that mean old Warren. Iggo Jul 2016 #67
 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
56. YES YES YES! He adds TONS to the ticket, WAY more than Warren.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:30 PM
Jul 2016

Warren is wonderful and I love her. But she isn't ready for president and we need her in the Senate. She brings no new demographics and no new geography. Nor does she bring gender balance.

Kaine is the best pick. Kaine brings gender balance which is a reality, he brings a purple toss up state, TONS of experience so he's ready to be President if needed, and he speaks Spanish and has a great relationship with the Hispanic community. He is a GREAT choice.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
16. Do you understand how twitter works?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jul 2016

Bookmark the thread, and wait for slow media to announce this tomorrow. No skin off my back.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
20. Yes.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:42 PM
Jul 2016

But no link to a source of this information was cited.

Twitter is usually not an accurate source of news.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
5. Like him better than Big Ag guy
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jul 2016

I know he's moderate on some issues, but he is mostly good on his environmental and energy views. And sorry those ARE HUGE issues for me.
 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
13. I'm really hoping that you guy's learn to lover Tim Kaine
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:31 PM
Jul 2016

He's really a great guy. He'll make you proud.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
32. I don't know if I can convince you, he'll have to do that, however
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:51 PM
Jul 2016

This was part of a longer post I made about my time working on his run for Lt. Governor:


The one thing that struck me about him was at a time when Virginia was leading the country in executions, he had no fear about stating that he did not agree with the death penalty and that VA should look into a moratorium. This was 00-01 and it just wasn't something that Virginia Democrats trying to take the Governor's mansion back openly said. I did not work in close proximity to him, as it was during a statewide run and I was working in tidewater, but anytime Mark Warner seemed too conservative for my tastes at the time, I always drew inspiration from Kaine.

He's always been upfront and honest about his personal feelings on abortion, and why he doesn't think that his personal opinions should be legislated, and position of his that I've always respected. That's the ultimate thing you can ask of a politican, to put the good of the country above his personal beliefs.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,676 posts)
43. His selection might cause a lot of progressives
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:59 PM
Jul 2016

to become even less enthusiastic about the ticket than they are already. What does he have to offer? He's an uninspiring speaker; he was a terrible DNC chair (remember what happened in 2010?); he's basically just another boring old white guy. If the idea is to win over some of the old white guys who like Trump, I hardly think that will work. There are so many exciting candidates who would really add some spark to the campaign - why pick a stiff like Kaine?

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
52. ' he's basically just another boring old white guy'
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:06 PM
Jul 2016

He's not going to be able to convince you. That position is way too close minded.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
59. As Governor Kaine signed into law the Marshall-Newman Amendment, which defined marriage in Virginia
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:57 PM
Jul 2016

as reserved for straights only. He did so after having said he would veto it during his campaign. This does not suggest that he keeps his personal biases separate from his legislative agenda at all.

The Party needs to unload the anti gay baggage.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
60. He signed it because 60% of the state voted to ratify it, and the only way to kill it, was to sign
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:03 PM
Jul 2016

and let the courts knock it down. As they did.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
68. The party needs the same on choice.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:49 PM
Jul 2016

Yes, I know that Biden is Catholic, too, yada yada yada. But we need to be moving forward on social issues; not backwards, and I would prefer someone with the same stance on abortion rights as Hillary AND the party platform for 2016.

To me, Kaine conveys that the issue of choice is not all that important to the ticket. I was simply hoping for more.

This is my opinion and it's not worth arguing over. I will still be first in line to vote for Hillary.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
7. I am so disappointed in this pick...and there weren't many choices that would have disappointed me.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:25 PM
Jul 2016

I thought Tom Vilsack was a much better choice.

I am even worried that we will lose the Senate seat in 2017 when the special election is held. We won't have two full years to get somebody situated in the seat because Virginia has statewide elections in odd-numbered years. We could lose both the Senate seat and the governor's seat in 2017, harkening memories of losing both senate seats and the governorships in Minnesota in 1978 and Tennessee in 1994.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
9. Vilsack sucks
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:26 PM
Jul 2016

May as well have Monsanto in the White House.

Nice story, don't want him. He was Dead Fucking Last on my list. Anyone else works for me compared to this guy.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
17. I am not looking for a running-mate that will be set up to run for president. Besides, I expect
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:38 PM
Jul 2016

Elizabeth Warren to run in 2024. She will be 75 but I still think she will run...and win.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
22. Oh stop it.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:43 PM
Jul 2016

I was hoping for Warren (I was originally against her because I thought we needed a man VP, but had changed my mind), but stop it.

Response to woolldog (Reply #22)

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
53. Have you been watching the RNC?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:06 PM
Jul 2016

It should make any sane person grateful to have the opportunity to vote for Hillary.

Native

(5,942 posts)
21. I've watched all her joint rallies, and I think they have the best chemistry.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:43 PM
Jul 2016

She looks totally relaxed and enjoying herself when she's with him.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
31. I'm being honest. He brings nothing to the ticket.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jul 2016

No one who is unenthused by Hillary is going to make a point to go vote for Kaine.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
28. I'm not saying this is wrong but
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:49 PM
Jul 2016

searching around the internet right now, no one else but Randomguy McWhoever in the link is reporting this.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
37. I guess we'll see. Like i said, Ben Tribbett (@notlarrysabato)retweeted this and according to me...
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:53 PM
Jul 2016

he's a guru of VA politics. If he said that the corpse of George Washington was going to be disinterred and run for Governor in 2017, I'd believe him.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
34. If this is true
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jul 2016

you have to wonder if she really wants to be president. This is not going to help her with left leaning independents and she needs those votes.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
44. Not necessarily
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:00 PM
Jul 2016

It's hard enough for left leaning party loyalists to vote for her (though the RNC was making the thought easier this week) but choosing Kaine has me back to thinking I'll need to take a clothespin into the voting booth with me and try to comfort myself by repeating "I'm voting against Trump" as I fill in the oval next to her name.

I think choice like this - which pretty much signals her move to the left was all for show - will push those who are on the fence either to not vote or to vote for Stein. (And to, be clear, I am not one of those.)

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
42. Well, that creates a good reason to talk about Honduras again,
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:59 PM
Jul 2016

since Kaine served as a missionary there...


This is my least favorite potential VP that's been mentioned.
If he's the best we can do..... then I am pretty disgusted.


 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
47. Solid choice as far as VA goes
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jul 2016

He should do well in that position if selected, although I think he is kind of a bore. It's not an "exciting pick" to me, but it's about getting a job done and winning an election. Kaine should help in both those areas.

Response to Joe the Revelator (Original post)

Peigan68

(137 posts)
57. If true this is disappointing to me (I really wanted Warren)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:39 PM
Jul 2016

However it is not a deal breaker, especially after witnessing this insane RNC this week, and she still has my vote.

But really Hillary...Kaine?

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