2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI listened to Donald Trumps Speech...I have to tell you
I have never heard so much fear and loathing in my life.. He gave the Impression that America was under attack not only from abroad but from within. He promised swift justice...which to me sounded a lot like military action, the possible use of Nuclear weapons. No Nuclear weapons have been used since World War Two. I am thinking that, that is a record Donald Trump is not afraid to break. His vision for America is to use the military swiftly and he also stated he will be the Law and Order candidate. Militarized Police? Most Likely.
This man has no clue what is going on in the world.. no clue. But he is willing to make America a mirror image of what Putin has in Russia. Its bad enough we have lost some of our freedoms, but it sounds like, at least to me, the last of them, will fly out the windows. It will truly be like a George Orwell novel.. except it will be real. We HAVE TO STOP THIS.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)This is just more proof.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Mika
(17,751 posts)GOPers have done their level-best to inculcate authoritarian personality disorders throughout this country. Americans seem to want a strong leader to shepherd them to safety/security.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)That is his mentality
bora13
(860 posts)not to create a conspiracy theory or anything, but what do we know about Melania's past?
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,642 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)MineralMan
(146,286 posts)That's the answer.
REALforever
(69 posts)The parallels must be shown to those who are educated enough to understand what it means A) and B), to those who do NOT and are thus ignorant(FOX News types).. Thank you
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Drawing that comparison only reaches people who care about history. People do know who Hitler was, but not so many know much about Mussolini. In that sense, there's little point in the comparison, really. I understand it. You understand it, but most voters don't understand the comparison at all, and aren't interested in an explanation of it.
This is the 2016 campaign, and we need to focus on 2016 and the near future and the recent past. That's what people remember. That's what people understand.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Mussolini..... oh yeah! Those little Italian cars! Or was it a type of biscotti?
Even a lot of people who actually know who Mussolini was don't know he (and not Hitler) sorta "invented" fascism. People kinda know what fascism is, but a lot think it's just totalitarian and don't get the connection to commerce and big business.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)mountain grammy
(26,614 posts)He said nothing about anything.. just fear and loathing all the time. Unbelievable that we're here today.
kairos12
(12,852 posts)Rangers Lead the Way.
griloco
(832 posts)You poor uninformed people! Trump served in Vietnam, albeit his own Vietnam, and emerged without neither scratch nor itch thus not receiving a Purple Prick Medal.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)he survived STDs
emulatorloo
(44,112 posts)He's more of the same.
dmosh42
(2,217 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)I have always seen films of Hitler, but they were of course in German, which I don't speak so I never understood what he was saying. The subtitles make a huge difference, but as I watch this even in Black and White, its still chilling to see just how cold and calculated the Nazi's were. Had they gotten a hold of Nuclear weapons, I am sure they would have made thousands of them and devastated this planet.
Now, fast forward to his age, there are thousands of Nukes here in America, and Donald Trump is not afraid to use them.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)they hate Hillary sooooo much that they don't mind Trump winning.
apparently it would be such a disaster that the whole country would turn progressive or something.
how crazy is that???
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)but its the Rightwing ideology that I am afraid of. This country becoming another Putin Paradise would be a disaster in the making.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)As many there do.
So if you're saying they aren't really progressive, then I agree.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Conservative thinking is trying to make things like they were in the past. Like they said in Star Trek, that's the wrong direction, we want to go. The future is ours... and for generations to come. Conservatives won't even come up with money to fix the things that are in the present. This past 8 years, Republicans have sat on their hands refusing to do anything for that "Black man in the office". They didn't want to give him any credit for anything even if he acted on their own ideas. That is not what we need. What we need now is to look at our goals of the future, and make sure we implement them so everyone will benefit.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)No there isn't. Not at all.
But there are people on here now who think "free speech zones" are great!
how crazy is that???
zappaman
(20,606 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)In your imagination.
That's why you won't name the site you think you're being clever dissing.
Not liking Hillary does not mean one likes Trump. Implying so is merely a smear.
It's up to Hillary to inspire people to vote for her.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I read them for myself.
Some who post they love Trump over there continue to post shit here, too.
And I have no problem with anybody who disrupts the proceedings inside the convention being forced to stay a minimum of two miles away from the site.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Yes, I saw that some here are all for "first amendment zones"...
Unbelievable!
Legends303
(481 posts)I know things are tough but not amargadan if you don't vote for the orange man.
calimary
(81,209 posts)His poll numbers will improve, short-term. Everybody gets a convention bounce, even if it's only a little. I'm just glad OUR side gets its week, this coming week, to wipe that all away and set the record straight. OUR convention bounce will be corrective.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)By the time Next week rolls around, the only thing they will remember about the Republican convention was Trump's wife Rick Rolling the crowd. Once Democrats grab the lime light, you will hear, hopefully how America can be a beacon in the darkness, and how democracy is the greatest ideology in the world.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Who would have thought the enemy would be our own Trump ordered military.
As a Marine Corps veteran, I could not allow this takeover and would have to fight in a resistance movement.
See tRump? We vets also took an oath which ends when we die!
Vote Hillary and let's not make my hypothetical outcome happen.
Wounded Bear
(58,642 posts)although your choice of football teams leaves something to be desired. Go Seahawks!
Trump could be a disaster for us vets. I depend on VA medical to keep me alive, well sort of, but all my medical is through them. I can't afford civilian care.
I want a Hillary win, a Senate flip, and Bernie back chairing the Veteran's Affairs committee.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Wondering when Trump's storm troopers will come for me and my husband.
I hope the best of America stops this ugly, hateful menace from burning the world.
bucolic_frolic
(43,124 posts)except the protagonist has knowledge of what he is doing here
The movie was widely panned, but I always like Michael Caine
Robert Ludlum's books were great because, to quote Wikipedia,
they and The Holcroft Covenant "reflected the theory that terrorists, rather than being merely isolated bands
of ideologically motivated extremists, are actually pawns of governments or private
organizations who are using them to facilitate the establishment of authoritarian rule."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ludlum
elmac
(4,642 posts)Love Michael Caine gov agent & cold war movies. I believe in that theory. It is used to control the general population and for a few to amass great wealth and power. We do not live in a democracy.
onecaliberal
(32,818 posts)His supporters are more stupid than a bag of dirt.
HoosierCowboy
(561 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)more people in our overflowing prisons. more lives destroyed.
tblue37
(65,318 posts)Saddam Hussein. He is not running for president, but for emperor of the world.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)to capitalize on new terror attacks, more cop shootings, bad economic news, I guess we better hope none of those things transpire in the next couple of months.
toddwv
(2,830 posts)As if it ever truly stopped...
AllyCat
(16,177 posts)Disappointing conversation with her today and she says we need to save our country from "all these people wanting freebies".
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Republicans think many of them should have just died in a war, so they don't have to come back to America and rely on the US government to give them free health care, and medicines. If they had their way there would be no Veterans Hospitals, they would rather VETS just off themselves despite the fact, they served their country far more than many have.
AllyCat
(16,177 posts)I bet it has not even crossed her mind about vets.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)ya know, with our funny eyes and all...
NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)pay their fair share! That's what she's talking about right?
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Domestically he is totalitarian. He played the straight "Fear card" last night because he thinks so little of the average Republican's intellect.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)but who's looking at history?
alterfurz
(2,474 posts)still_one
(92,126 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,642 posts)ancianita
(36,022 posts)At the start of his speech:
GOTV for sure, because if these numbers hold, many of us will l have to learn what world his win might have come from, if we don't try to get a clue about that world in time for GOTV efforts.