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Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:10 PM

Wiki leaks?

Nothing about it here yet? Can someone explain to me what's going on?

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Reply Wiki leaks? (Original post)
Chico Man Jul 2016 OP
Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #1
still_one Jul 2016 #2
Chico Man Jul 2016 #4
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #42
TheBlackAdder Jul 2016 #64
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #65
Else You Are Mad Jul 2016 #3
Chico Man Jul 2016 #6
Else You Are Mad Jul 2016 #12
Iliyah Jul 2016 #14
Else You Are Mad Jul 2016 #21
one_voice Jul 2016 #22
tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #5
Chico Man Jul 2016 #7
tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #8
Chico Man Jul 2016 #9
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #11
riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #10
Post removed Jul 2016 #13
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #17
notadmblnd Jul 2016 #25
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #28
notadmblnd Jul 2016 #29
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #32
notadmblnd Jul 2016 #33
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #36
notadmblnd Jul 2016 #37
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #41
notadmblnd Jul 2016 #53
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #67
ag_dude Jul 2016 #38
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #43
ag_dude Jul 2016 #45
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #50
ag_dude Jul 2016 #51
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #52
2banon Jul 2016 #71
LanternWaste Jul 2016 #39
HerbChestnut Jul 2016 #15
Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #26
Arazi Jul 2016 #54
NWCorona Jul 2016 #59
m-lekktor Jul 2016 #62
notadmblnd Jul 2016 #16
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #18
geek tragedy Jul 2016 #19
one_voice Jul 2016 #20
sufrommich Jul 2016 #23
notadmblnd Jul 2016 #24
sufrommich Jul 2016 #27
notadmblnd Jul 2016 #30
NCTraveler Jul 2016 #31
NWCorona Jul 2016 #60
LanternWaste Jul 2016 #40
Iliyah Jul 2016 #34
liberalmuse Jul 2016 #35
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #44
Scurrilous Jul 2016 #46
Ghost Dog Jul 2016 #47
liberalmuse Jul 2016 #49
Ghost Dog Jul 2016 #55
MohRokTah Jul 2016 #48
Will Morningstar Jul 2016 #56
jalan48 Jul 2016 #57
floppyboo Jul 2016 #58
riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #61
floppyboo Jul 2016 #63
riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #66
2banon Jul 2016 #68
floppyboo Jul 2016 #69
2banon Jul 2016 #70


Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:12 PM

2. Wow, that is a LEAK

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Response to Chico Man (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:24 PM

42. How great of Wiki leaks to support freedom loving Putin

Support his prefered candidate, freedom living Trump.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #42)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:18 PM

64. I just hope Russia doesn't drop an email trove from another server 2 weeks before the General.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #64)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:13 PM

65. Putin will be happy to help his BFF ztrump.

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Response to Chico Man (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:12 PM

3. Russia...

Hacked the DNC email server and stole all their emails then gave all the emails to wikileaks. Wikileaks then released the emails in a keyword searchable database.

Russia wants Trump to win and thinks that this will help Trump.

It will have no effect on the election.

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Response to Else You Are Mad (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:13 PM

6. Ok thanks

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Response to Chico Man (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:23 PM

12. You're welcome. nt.

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Response to Else You Are Mad (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:28 PM

14. And T-rump's Intelligence Briefing starts Monday

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:45 PM

21. Though, Obama...

Has the final say on what the candidates are allowed to see. Let's hope that he limits the Russian intelligence given to Trump.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:48 PM

22. And yet here some are concened

about what Wikileaks says are hacked emails. How do I know they haven't been manipulated? They have a clear agenda.

But Trump getting intelligence briefing--meh no big deal.

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Response to Chico Man (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:13 PM

5. There's plenty of discussions about it...

otherwise, Google is your friend.

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Response to tallahasseedem (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:14 PM

7. Thought it might have made the front page by now

Trying to gauge the reality of the situation.

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Response to Chico Man (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:16 PM

8. Russia is trying to sabotage our election. Plain and simple.

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Response to tallahasseedem (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:19 PM

9. That does sound newsworthy

Thank you.

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Response to Chico Man (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:20 PM

11. There's discussion of Putin's and Trump's symbiosis, this is just one more piece of evidence

that Putin is pro-trump. We know Trump is pro Putin, as he basically said he doesn't care if Russia invades our NATO allies.

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Response to Chico Man (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:19 PM

10. Inconvenient facts. You won't find much if any discussion here @ it

 

The purposeful actions to destroy the Sanders campaign will get silence if not applause.

Hillary won. That's all that matters.


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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:37 PM

17. We already saw one of these emails a few weeks ago. It was edited and manipulated by

cutting off email headers to make it appear to be a "smoking gun" when it was nothing of the sort.

Bernie said HRC won fair and square, and I have zero reason to doubt him.

Maybe I am more skeptical of Putin's blatant attempts to help Trump win than others are.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #17)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:55 PM

25. Oh really? could you direct me to that?

I sure would like to see it.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #25)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:59 PM

28. I'm not your research assistant

The email was from a vendor to the DNC. The header sender was cut off by "GUCCIFER 2.O" to make it appear that it originated with the DNC. It was discussed for days on DU, with some gullible and conspiracy minded DU'ers falling for the manipulation.

That should give you enough info to find it with a Google search.

If you cannot recognize a pro-Trump disinformation campaign from his fan-boy Putin, I cannot help you.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #28)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:00 PM

29. You made the claim. Guess you got nothing then, huh?

That's what I thought.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #29)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:03 PM

32. I have given you enough information for you to find it.

I do not have an encyclopedic recall of the URL's of every thread posted on DU or the Internet at large.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #32)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:04 PM

33. no, I think you made it all up.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #33)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:07 PM

36. Too bad. You're incorrect.

Have a nice day, and I mean that sincerely

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #36)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:09 PM

37. Too bad you can't prove it.

You have a nice afternoon too.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #37)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:22 PM

41. You as well.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #41)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:49 PM

53. I don't have to prove it. You are the person who claimed it

You said they've been debunked. I asked for evidence. You can not provide it. But if you want to keep going around in circles about it, I'll be happy to- as it will keep this thread kicked up where others can see it.

BTW, I can provide links to each and every email that Wikileaks released in regards to the DNC emails.

Again, have a great afternoon.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #53)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:13 PM

67. I was referring to your wish that I have a nice afternoon. I hoped you had a nice afternoon as well

Hope your evening is good too.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #32)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:09 PM

38. "Do it yourself" is not a rational response

It's what people who make up bull shit say when they are called on it.

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Response to ag_dude (Reply #38)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:25 PM

43. Look call me a liar as much as you want. It doesn't matter to me

Because I'm not a liar. I cast no aspersions on your character or anyone else's, other than Putin and his soulmate Trump.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #43)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:28 PM

45. I didn't call you a liar.

I'm saying that telling other people to find a source for something you cited is a commonly known tactic used by people who just make up lies and expect them to be taken at face value.

The responsibility of providing a source rests with the person who used that source.

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Response to ag_dude (Reply #45)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:41 PM

50. Ok so yr not calling me a liar, but I am using tactics liars use.

That clears it up.

More accurate description is I am just too lazy to spend a couple three hours googling to find a DU thread I remember reading several weeks ago which debunked Guccifer 2.0's first email leak.


Slothful and lazy, I willingly accept. You can add fat to the list too, given I'm still wasting time on DU rather than getting some exercise.

Take care and

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #50)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:45 PM

51. Yes, you are.

And the "I could do it but I don't want to" tactic is textbook as well.

You're not lazy, you could have posted the source for what you said happened about a dozen replies ago.

But you've chosen to attack the people asking for a source instead and there's almost certainly a reason for that.

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Response to ag_dude (Reply #51)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:47 PM

52. I'm attempting to be conciliatory but obviously the tone is not coming through.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #17)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 12:05 AM

71. Interesting, My theory had Assange as the Trump supporter

 

timing of his releases seemed suspect to me. Didn't consider Putin's involvment

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:11 PM

39. I applaud your faith-based allegation.

 

That's a creative allegation lacking objective evidence... a bumper-sticker.

That said, I really do sympathize with anyone who is unable or unwilling to rise above the simplicity of bumper-sticker thought, regardless of whether it's due to simple mental laziness, or an unshakable bias and faith-based thinking.

That's also all that matter. Part deux.

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Response to Chico Man (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:32 PM

15. I created an OP on this very subject, and it was just removed.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:56 PM

26. good.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:53 PM

54. I saw that. Unfuckingbelievable

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Response to Arazi (Reply #54)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 05:06 PM

59. Yup

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 05:38 PM

62. It's been a big topic on my facebook all day long. I figured it would be shut down here!

People are pissed and not surprised.

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Response to Chico Man (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:34 PM

16. The three monkeys method is being employed in regards to DNC email leaks

Hear no truth, see no truth, speak no truth.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:41 PM

18. Maybe some people don't care for Putin's pot stirring.

One of these "smoking gun" emails was released a while back by Guccifer 2. Turned out it had been edited and manipulated. On that basis I am skeptical about this latest Putin document dump.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:42 PM

19. there are plenty of other places to pimp material from Russia's intelligence services

 

allegedly obtained from illegal hacking and invasions of privacy

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:45 PM

20. Oh, they're pimping it alright...

having orgasms over it, in fact.

Same people think Putin is the bees knees. He's so dreamy....

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:50 PM

23. Leave this shit over at Jackass Radicals where it belongs.nt

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #23)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:54 PM

24. Are you agreeing with my post?

see, speak hear? Because I'm not hearing or seeing anyone dispute what has been released

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #24)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:56 PM

27. It's ratfucking brought over from your PUMA site. The primaries

are over,either let it go or go stew over there.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #27)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:02 PM

30. If it is an inappropriate post and in violation of TOS, please alert.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #27)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:03 PM

31. +1 nt

 

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #27)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 05:09 PM

60. The primaries are over but does that mean we aren't supposed to talk about current news?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:13 PM

40. More accurately, rejection of unsupported bumper-stickers is common in the rational mind.

 

More accurately, rejection of simplistic bumper-stickers lacking objective evidence is common in the rational mind.

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Response to Chico Man (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:04 PM

34. Why is Russia so concerned about the DNC e-mails?

Why not RNC? Why is Russia meddling in USA election? Well maybe because they want T-rump to win.

Adjustments can easily be done. Enough.

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Response to Chico Man (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:06 PM

35. It's trending on Twitter now...

https://twitter.com/hashtag/DNCLeaks?src=tren

As a Bernie supporter who plans on voting for Hillary, I am not happy with this at all.

On edit: After having read some of the emails, I have to say this is pretty devastating. The DNC (along with Putin/wikileaks) may have just handed the election over to Trump.

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #35)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:27 PM

44. Well handing the election to Trump is Putin's plan, but voters may have something to say about it.

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #35)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:28 PM

46. LOL

Indictment Fairy Redux.

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #35)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:29 PM

47. Do you think the DNC could be succesfully sued over this?

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Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #47)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:33 PM

49. Not really, but

I think if RNCLeaks happened, it would be much worse. But of course that will not happen because Putin wants the man who licks his boots in office. Fuck you, Putin!

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #49)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:14 PM

55. That latter is clear.

People who denated time, effort & money to a campaign undermined by the DNC or individual elements thereof might want to seek legal redress, is what occurred to me, in such a litigious culture.

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #35)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:32 PM

48. OFFS!!!!!

 

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Response to Chico Man (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:27 PM

56. 1984 + 32 = 2016

 

War may not be peace, love may not be hate, but our dear adversaries know very well that ignorance is strength. Anything that sounds even remotely like "Secretary of State" and "e-mail" (cable, what's the diff, eh?) is grist for their mills. If people weren't smarter than this, the forces of darkness would have swallowed us up long ago. I have an enduring faith in the inherent wisdom of regular folks, as should we all.

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Response to Chico Man (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:33 PM

57. Bernie said the system is rigged.

Apparently in more ways than one.

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Response to Chico Man (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:44 PM

58. I think this Putin/Trump thing is a bunch of bullpuckey

I think what's really happening is Assange has more - and this is the tip of the iceberg - and he is blackmailing. Note he met with Swedish authorities today at Equador embassy. This is about him, Manning and Snowden - not Putin

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Response to floppyboo (Reply #58)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 05:34 PM

61. Interesting. Do you have a link that the meeting was today?

 

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #61)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 05:50 PM

63. just heard about it, but this I found on google

https://twitter.com/AlanJonesPA/status/744912162825641985

I'd look more but its Friday and my girl friend is over with cold drinks!
cheers

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Response to floppyboo (Reply #63)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:22 PM

66. Ah, that's the report that it was going to happen. Thats from 6/20

 

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Response to Chico Man (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 10:05 PM

68. as a former enthusiast of Wikileaks...

 

It seems Assange played progressives big time.

IF there's anything of any significant substance allegedly planning to release during the DNC, his timing should at the very least be considered suspect.

I do believe his bias appears to be in favor of a Trump victory. Might have even made a deal with Trump for his release in the event he releases so called "indictable" evidence of criminal activity.
If that is even remotely true, obviously, I'm just speculating.

I can't describe how effed up that is. But so far as I'm aware, I've only taken a cursory glance at this latest "damning" release, it's just campaign stuff. Really nothing worthy of the hype whatsoever.

In my view he's played progressives big time.

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Response to 2banon (Reply #68)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 11:35 PM

69. I read a bunch of these 'damming' emails too and agree

there is nothing extraordinary here. Nothing that any campaign wouldn't be planning and discussing. I don't know what the party rules are re. collusion with the DNC - if that's a problem, then, well, there's a big problem.

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Response to floppyboo (Reply #69)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 11:59 PM

70. Political campaigns are like War.. they do whatever it takes to win. by any means necessary

 

That's the long and short of it. of course the Clinton Campaign colluded with the DNC.

They own that organization! As a Bernie supporter of course I'm not happy about it, but we didn't need wikileaks to reveal stuff we already knew in terms of the big picture. Just confirming what we already knew.. but I don't understand how it's a problem? It's not like Federal Crimes were committed, that I'm aware of.

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