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AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 04:19 PM Jul 2016

Kaine is a dagger into the heart of the Republican party.

Last edited Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:18 AM - Edit history (1)

I just streamed the Miami rally. I will admit I have been more than vocal for my enthusiasm to pick Elizabeth Warren as VP. Having said that, I was VERY RELUCTANT about Kaine. But, you know, I never heard him talk before. I didn't know much about him and should have been more open. And now that I have, I am so blown away by him.

It is NO WONDER he came highly recommended by both bill clinton and Barack Obama. Holy shit! This man is nothing short of amazing and all I could think of while he spoke is that he is the dagger right into the heart of the GOP. I could hear TAPS in the distance. This is the end of the republican party.

How can you not like this man? He is a tremendous speaker, with incredible experience, and lifelong integrity to help the vulnar able and less fortunate.

Hillary and Co are totally killing it. Change is coming. I AM SO EXCITED!!

#HillaryKaine2016 #changeisuponus #timetokickass #hillary45 #wearetakingbackthehouseandsenate #proudtobeademocrat #republicansarescrewed #donaldwho?

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Kaine is a dagger into the heart of the Republican party. (Original Post) AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 OP
Agree! UCmeNdc Jul 2016 #1
Thanks! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #14
K&R! LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #2
Thanks, Luv! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #12
My thoughts as well awake Jul 2016 #3
I like the way you think. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2016 #4
Thanks, Charlie! Heck yeaa! We need to GOTV like no one's business!! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #13
I thought the same..... chillfactor Jul 2016 #5
Yep! That was me too!! Glad you are on board too! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #11
He seems pretty solid. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #6
No doubt. I am strongly pro choice. I know he is prolife personally but is prochoice in polic AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #10
Please, please, please, somebody in this machine Stevepol Jul 2016 #19
Chill. Trump doesn't even have the Republican machine to help him flip #'s. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #20
they may not do it for him... RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #31
What do you think of Kasich telling Trump JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #51
No need to be sorry, I enjoyed your post. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #22
I was ok with the pick qazplm Jul 2016 #7
That's impossible...the GOP has no heart. spooky3 Jul 2016 #8
Ha! That's the truth! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #9
Tim Kaine eschewed rich law firms after Harvard Law to work with communities 4lbs Jul 2016 #15
That speaks volumes to me, too. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #21
I'm in the same boat as you. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #16
People can't stand him because he's for the TPP fast track and oligarchic interests. BUT ancianita Jul 2016 #17
Kaine has said he will follow Hillary's lead re: the TPP. auntpurl Jul 2016 #27
Good to know, because a few Dems I know hold the TPP fast track vote against him. ancianita Jul 2016 #56
Thanks so much wryter2000 Jul 2016 #18
Here's the vid: auntpurl Jul 2016 #28
IF you get a chance, you should watch the video auntpurl so kindly posted. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #37
Can't wait to watch the Democratic convention. DinahMoeHum Jul 2016 #23
Tim Kaine is our secret sauce IronLionZion Jul 2016 #24
His son is an active Marine. His wife is the education secretary of VA. auntpurl Jul 2016 #29
He is a Harvard Law school grad & could have done anything& he chose to be a civil rights lawyer AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #39
The type of people who value liberal policies and social justice IronLionZion Jul 2016 #45
I'm pretty disgusted she picked white, male and moderate adigal Jul 2016 #25
Have you seen the speech from today? auntpurl Jul 2016 #30
Nope. And I don't plan wasting my time watching adigal Jul 2016 #32
Yes, we are excited. auntpurl Jul 2016 #34
I see from your logo there you accepted him unconditionally adigal Jul 2016 #35
I did, yes. auntpurl Jul 2016 #36
I wouldn't even bother... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #44
Presiding over 11 executions? Oh, it's ok! He speaks Spanish!!! adigal Jul 2016 #48
OK, we get it. GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #50
He was one of the majority of Dems who voted to give President Obama the fast-track authority pnwmom Jul 2016 #52
Then you should shut up. GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #49
Not gonna lie. Those thoughts crossed my mind at first too. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #40
That's exactly why he's such a good choice IronLionZion Jul 2016 #46
I was blown away by Tim Kaine last night and today, AS! Cha Jul 2016 #26
Hi Cha! Good to see you, my friend. Isn't his speech amazing! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #41
I started loving him last night.. Cha Jul 2016 #43
The pictures in that... 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #53
Wooo-Hooo TomJulie Jul 2016 #33
k/r Dawson Leery Jul 2016 #38
That's what I've been trying to tell you all underpants Jul 2016 #42
You know what, that is my EXACT impression of him too. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #47
I love Bernie and,like him, am all aboard for Clinton/ Kaine. argyl Jul 2016 #54
I think he's a good choice DashOneBravo Jul 2016 #55

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
4. I like the way you think.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jul 2016

Now, let's GOTV for all the Democratic candidates...at national, state, and local levels!

March On, Democrats!

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
5. I thought the same.....
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jul 2016

I was so disappointed when Hillary chose Kaine.....who in the hell is this guy? WOW! I listened to him speak today and he blew my mind. Now I am very excited with a Hillary-Kaine ticket!!!

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
6. He seems pretty solid.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 04:47 PM
Jul 2016

I don't agree with him on everything, but I don't even agree with myself all the time.

What changes do you see coming?

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
10. No doubt. I am strongly pro choice. I know he is prolife personally but is prochoice in polic
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jul 2016

And that is fine with me.

As for changes, I think we have been slowly seeing it. I mean 10 yrs ago, I didn't think we would ever have the LGBT rights and acceptance that we do today. That is a pretty big shift in our collective thinking.

I think we will be a monumental time where we take the presidency, congress, and supreme court. I cant rememver the last time we had controlling interest of all 3 branches of the govt. This is the time where we can really roll up our sleeves, get to work, and affect the change we have been wanting for so long.

But with Hillary's administration, I see a change in paradigm. It is evident in her vetting and elevating Stravridis. He brings a different tone and approach that is MUCH needed on the international platform. We haven't had much of that. It was been all shock and awe and Stravridis understands the complexities of the middle east and knows how to balance soft and hard power. He clearly has the intellect and capabilities. But equally so, I see an integrity and conviction to his set of beliefs which is the direction we need to go to forward advancements in our fight against terrorism.

Now that I know a bit about Kaine, his pick makes complete sense to me besides the large strategic swing state that he brings to the election. He is the total package. His likability, easy approach demeanor, incredible speaking skills, and sharp intellect will serve him, the Hillary administration, and country well. Also, with Tim Kaine, I see him establishing and garnishing tremendous respect throughout the world. He will be a force for the Hillary administration.

He speaks spanish, SERVED as a missionary in Honduras for a year. That speaks VERY highly of him and I think will translate well to the latino population. People know the real deal when they see it. He is the real deal. He went to Honduras because of his convictions of doing good. Not because he wanted to be senator or governor or whatever. People know this. It is not lost on the population we want to capture.

I don't know who else will be part of her cabinet but it would not surprise me to see Warren, Perez and Hinkenlooper in the mix.

One thing I am learning is that it is easy to sit and wring our hands. That's because we don't have the Intel or inside scoop. But I am learning to trust the machine to put Hillary in place. And make no mistake, she has the very best of the best working for her. Her team is a machine. They know what they are doing. They must be in order to fight the powerful MSM. For her to be ahead despite all the shit they throw at her is nothing short of brilliance from her people. They are running this campaign like a machine.

So, in conclusion (hahaha. Sorry, it's so long), I think our political landscape is changing as we speak. And there is much more ahead to look forward to. The Republican party is fracturing and it is much needed. That level of greed and hate has to end. It always does. It will be exciting to see what replaces it.

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
19. Please, please, please, somebody in this machine
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jul 2016

can you keep track of any anomalies in vote counts when the voting machines are used, particularly in MA but all across the country?

This is not a lot to ask. Surely, in such a well-oiled and finely tuned machine, there is some computer expert, familiar with statistics (and remember the science of statistics deals with MATHEMATICAL FACTS), who can keep track of these anomalies, of which I feel absolutely sure there will be many in the final election which defy mathematical probability.

Hopefully, Hillary and Kaine will absolutely blow Trump out of the water and the Royal Privatized Counters of the Vote will be fearful of tilting the vote too far. But if it's a fairly close race you can rest assured that Trump, if the far right-wing owners of the voting machine companies inform him of what's up, will sure help them all he can to carry out and hide the cheat. He's been in bed with the mob his whole career. There's nothing he will not cheat at. NOTHING.

Remember all: WHEN THE VOTE IS COUNTED IN TOTAL SECRECY WITHOUT VERIFICATION, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A DEMOCRACY!!

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
20. Chill. Trump doesn't even have the Republican machine to help him flip #'s.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jul 2016

Hell, he can't even get them to say rah rah for him at their own convention.

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
31. they may not do it for him...
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jul 2016

but they would definitely do it to stop Hillary. it would be foolish to discount the danger. I live in Ohio and have been here before.

JustAnotherGen

(31,781 posts)
51. What do you think of Kasich telling Trump
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:08 AM
Jul 2016

To "talk to the hand" last week?

I'm very interested in our Ohio Party members' opinions/predictions about Kasich during the G.E.

As an outsider looking in - he's no Chris Christie. Here we have our future Democratic Party nominee (Phil Murphy) demanding Christie step down. Christie is so hated that he has guaranteed NJ will not cast a substantial number of votes for TP.

There, you have a Governor who knows Trump is not qualified to be President and as of this posting has not endorsed him. I *think* he's running in 2020 on a slogan of "I Told You So."

Would he allow the shenanigans that occurred in 2004? He doesn't have to endorse Trump or dismiss Clinton - he just has to ensure everyone who wants to vote gets to vote , there are enough polling locations and the votes are counted accurately.

I feel better about Ohio voters - than I do in NJ. I'm seriously thinking of volunteering to work the polling location in my town.

qazplm

(3,626 posts)
7. I was ok with the pick
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jul 2016

not blown away, but not upset either...but yeah, that speech was ridiculously good.

4lbs

(6,831 posts)
15. Tim Kaine eschewed rich law firms after Harvard Law to work with communities
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:51 PM
Jul 2016

and the less fortunate.

Like a certain community organizer we all know.


ancianita

(35,942 posts)
17. People can't stand him because he's for the TPP fast track and oligarchic interests. BUT
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:03 PM
Jul 2016

I'm for the whole package, and we'll deal with the trade issues later.

Clinton and Kaine will Trump's whole "better deal" theme by revealing him as ignorant
of the geopolitics that create trade.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
18. Thanks so much
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jul 2016

I didn't see the rally, but I'm amazed at what I've read here today. Can't wait for the convention.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
37. IF you get a chance, you should watch the video auntpurl so kindly posted.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jul 2016

Well worth it. It is a great intro into the convention...and the only time I am excited for Monday to come. Lol

DinahMoeHum

(21,774 posts)
23. Can't wait to watch the Democratic convention.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:32 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:21 PM - Edit history (1)

Gonna be a love-feast compared to that 4-day dumpster fire in Cleveland last week.

Hillary, Tim, Liz, Bernie, Barack, etc. are all gonna CRUSH IT.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
24. Tim Kaine is our secret sauce
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jul 2016

People who know about him, know that he's very liberal. People who don't know him, often make incorrect assumptions based on the fact that he's a white man from the south. Both of those qualities helps us.

And he has appeared on Spanish language TV having conversations in fluent Spanish. His roots are in the midwest and his dad was union iron worker. He's Catholic and has been a missionary in Honduras. He fought for fair housing practices for African Americans in the old confederate capital of Richmond. He's going to win Virginia for us. The list goes on.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
29. His son is an active Marine. His wife is the education secretary of VA.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:23 PM
Jul 2016

As you say, the list goes on.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
39. He is a Harvard Law school grad & could have done anything& he chose to be a civil rights lawyer
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jul 2016

He took a PAYCUT to leave more towards education in the state of Virginia. How many people do that???!?!!

The list does go on and on. He is pretty darn amazing! And I agree. He is our secret sauce (LOVE that!)! I can see where he is pretty liberal. I see him as totally grounded with stellar values and ideals. If people question that, I don't know what to say. The proof is in the pudding. Too often though, some people just get tunnel vision and refuse to see anything else. That's too bad. They are stuck on the rain drops and can't see the rainbow in front of them.


IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
45. The type of people who value liberal policies and social justice
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:42 PM
Jul 2016

tend to be intellectually curious enough to research a politician's record to find out. These types will be mostly happy with what they find.

The type who value moderates or white males or southerners, probably don't do that much research and believed the initial reports that he is a boring moderate Democrat from a historically red state. And they will also be happy voting based on their assumptions.

It's a win win for us.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
25. I'm pretty disgusted she picked white, male and moderate
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jul 2016

But it's exactly what I expected from her. Sigh. I hate my choices this year. I have no choice, I get that, but I have zero enthusiasm for Hillary and this made it worse.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
30. Have you seen the speech from today?
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:24 PM
Jul 2016

I really recommend watching it. He was not my first choice, but I am now fully on board with him. He has an inspiring life story full of public service, a good old fashioned Liberal Democrat, and he gave an amazing speech today.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
32. Nope. And I don't plan wasting my time watching
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:34 PM
Jul 2016

Pro- fracking
Anti-choice personally
Anti-gay rights
Pro-TPP

Seriously???? WTF? Democrats are excited about someone like this? Damn. We really are leaning right now.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
34. Yes, we are excited.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jul 2016

He's said over and over he doesn't believe the abortion issue should be legislated. Joe Biden is also a Catholic who doesn't allow his personal beliefs to compromise his ability to do his job.

He is not anti gay rights. Look at his positions.

He's said already he will follow Hillary's lead on the TPP, which she opposes.

If you won't get to know him, if you can't open your mind enough to learn a little more about him, then why complain? You are closed off to knowledge. I think that's a shame.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
35. I see from your logo there you accepted him unconditionally
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:48 PM
Jul 2016

Why be excited over someone who has to change so many positions to be acceptable? It doesn't make sense.
More I read about him, the more I realize we are going to get the same old shit we've been getting. 1/4 of American kids in poverty, war on the middle class, and no one gives a shit.
I'm beyond depressed.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
36. I did, yes.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jul 2016

Before today, I would have told you (and did say on DU many times) that my VP choices were Becerra, Brown, Booker, Perez, Warren, Kaine, Vilsack, in that order. Once I knew he was the choice, I spent my Friday night and Saturday reading about him, watching videos of his speeches and interviews, and listening to the several VA DUers who've had personal experience working with him (including one very strong Bernie supporter, Joe The Revelator, and Underpants, who I've known on this site for many years and trust his judgment). I educated myself because I'd accepted the common wisdom that he was a boring white guy. Now I know I was wrong. There is no shame for me admitting I was wrong. I am happy to be wrong because it means we have a strong ticket for the GE.

I'm suggesting you learn more about him, starting by watching the speech I embedded. If you can't even do that, it seems to me you're determined to stay depressed and angry about Hillary's campaign and this election in general.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
44. I wouldn't even bother...
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:30 PM
Jul 2016

This is a man who has walked the walk and talks the talk...others a keyboard commands who won't/refuse to see what's in front of them and/or do the research.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
48. Presiding over 11 executions? Oh, it's ok! He speaks Spanish!!!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:29 AM
Jul 2016

Or maybe it's his support for the TPP? Or being pro-life?

How is he even a Democrat????? But let's all fall in line, right, like the good little programmed bots that we are.

GaYellowDawg

(4,446 posts)
50. OK, we get it.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:53 AM
Jul 2016

You're the arbiter of all things Democratic. No room for any candidate who doesn't meet your many litmus tests. I remember a bunch of Naderites saying the same thing about Al Gore. I'm just glad there aren't more of you.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
52. He was one of the majority of Dems who voted to give President Obama the fast-track authority
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:05 AM
Jul 2016

to negotiate the TPP.

He is pro-choice, fully supports Roe v. Wade, and that's all that matters. His personal religious beliefs are his own and he doesn't impose them on others.

GaYellowDawg

(4,446 posts)
49. Then you should shut up.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:49 AM
Jul 2016

If you're not willing to give someone a look, then you're too inflexible to really matter.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
40. Not gonna lie. Those thoughts crossed my mind at first too.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jul 2016

His speech was a real eye opener. He is not your typical middle aged, white guy much less one with money or power. He is not a fake.

He is the real deal and a total package. His resume is quite inspirational and clearly impressive.

He is going to be as moderate or as liberal or as conservative as his boss.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
46. That's exactly why he's such a good choice
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:53 PM
Jul 2016

Many moderate voters will think he checks off enough boxes for them to vote Dem.

He's much more liberal than people think.

Cha

(296,868 posts)
26. I was blown away by Tim Kaine last night and today, AS!
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jul 2016

I admitted I was bummed when I found out who she chose.. but, that's because I didn't know anything about him but the basics!

Nicholas Kristof
✔ ?@NickKristof
Watching Tim Kaine, I'm struck that he's great at skewering Trump while remaining genial. Destroying rivals pleasantly is a political art.
8:05 AM - 23 Jul 2016
742 742 Retweets 1,449 1,449 likes

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/07/23/going-solar/#comments

Thank you for your OP!

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
41. Hi Cha! Good to see you, my friend. Isn't his speech amazing!
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jul 2016

How can anyone not love this man?!?!?!

So excited for Monday now!!!

Cha

(296,868 posts)
43. I started loving him last night..
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:25 PM
Jul 2016

haven't had time to watch his speech yet.. but I will!


Victoria Brownworth ?@VABVOX
When white "progressives" say #TimKaine doesn't excite the base but this is his church for 30yrs & this is Dem base.
1:09 AM - 23 Jul 2016
586 586 Retweets 620 620 likes

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/07/23/all-who-want-to-serve-are-welcome-thanks-president-obama/

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
47. You know what, that is my EXACT impression of him too.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:09 AM
Jul 2016

He is your genuine next door kind of guy who had a good moral compass. How people depict him is exactly how I picture him to be.

I like how that reporter asked how can he get elected in a district with mostly African American constituents? Because for a white guy, he's not very white. of cpurse, he also accomplished a lot too. This guy walks the walk.

I don't understand people calling him boring. That speech was anything but boring. He is a dynamic speaker who had the crowd eating out of his hands.

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