I don't understand why the million or so protestors the leaders expect in Philly

[pnwmom]

weren't out there protesting the evil going on in Cleveland.

They weren't. The demonstrations were very small and contained in Cleveland. So why do progressives protest other progressives more than the party at the other extreme?

Why do they think it will help their cause to appear so divided? To send the message that everyone on the right and many people on the left hate Hillary?

Why weren't these people out there protesting the monster in Cleveland?

[RandySF]

1. A million? Really?

[pnwmom]

3. I don't expect that many, but some of the leaders do.

http://nypost.com/2016/07/05/organizers-planning-for-1-million-protesters-at-democratic-convention/

The City of Brotherly Love is expecting up to 200,000 protesters at this month’s Democratic National Convention, the Philadelphia mayor’s office told The Post.

Protest organizers, however, say they are planning for 1 million protesters. “It’s becoming more and more realistic as the days go on,” said the chief organizer, Billy Taylor, 31, who holds permits for three-quarters of the permitted protesters.

[WhiteTara]

6. The number I saw was

about 50,000. I don't remember where and I'm sure/hope someone will not be lazy like me and look it up for sure.

[rjsquirrel]

8. No way it's even hundreds of thousands

It's gonna be 99 degrees on Monday and only a notch cooler on subsequent days.

Most people can't stay outside in that for more than a few hours of exertion.

[pnwmom]

9. Good point. I forgot about the weather!

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/USPA1276:1:US

Yeah, not such great weather for camping out at night and protesting on the streets by day.

[LiberalFighter]

13. Yes good point.

That should be even more fun for law enforcement and pretend security.

[spooky3]

21. It was 97 in the DC area today (and humid) and expected to be bad all week; we're not far from Phil.

I predict there will be fewer than 50,000 protesters, even allowing for Koch- and other donor-paid trolls.

[MADem]

2. Everyone has an agenda. Follow the money. nt

[JaneyVee]

4. because they are rightwingers.

[Sheepshank]

17. Those claiming to be such purists are lead by the noserings

And in their inane sense of pushing a useless agenda, are more damaging to Dems than Republicans

...so they are either *that* naive, or are Republicans.

[Andy823]

5. They are not really progressives

They simply "claim to be", but in reality they are right wing trolls, and trump trolls. They only want to make the Democrats look bad, and help Trump win.

[RandySF]

7. It's the party in power.

Everyone with some grievance or another wil show up.

[pnwmom]

10. Except the R's control the Congress. n/t

[davidn3600]

27. Obama is the face of the government...not Paul Ryan.

[pnwmom]

30. To people who want to ignore the other two branches, yes. n/t

[uponit7771]

16. Rs are the party in power they have the house or reps...the most powerful part of the federal gov

... by design

[annavictorious]

11. Because for some people this is not about electing a good president.

It's about their entitlement being thwarted.

[SpareribSP]

12. ...

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

I think one basic principle here is people feel like they were personally wronged by people they thought were on their side. The Republicans on the other hand are just as terrible as everyone excepted them to be.

[pnwmom]

15. They are being MORE wronged by the other party. If they're going to protest anyone,

that's where the protests should be directed.

If they were protesting at both conventions, I'd completely respect that. But they're not.

[emulatorloo]

14. There won't be a million protesters.

[NurseJackie]

18. Answer: Vanity.

They probably think this post is about them.

[Grassy Knoll]

22. Lol, Clouds In Their Coffee...

[brooklynite]

19. Why do you imagine ther'll be a "million" protestors in Philly?

Besides the fact that a Facebook page said there would?

[pnwmom]

20. I'm repeating the prediction of the leader who has arranged for most of the permits.

But I agree he's engaging in hyerbole and wishful thinking.

OTOH, even the 200K that Philly is preparing for makes no sense.

[FrenchieCat]

23. Yeah! Let's do a 1968 and elect

Nixon-Trump!

Guess these folks don't Think that it will hurt them… But it will hurt everyone, them included!

They are the entitled ones....wanting it their way or else! And of course the media will have a field day magnifying it all!

Who do I thank for this clusterf*ck waiting to happen???

[Dem2]

24. One of my kids curses Hillary so much

I feel like I'm going to be thanking her for President Trump.

[pnwmom]

25. That would be really hard. Fortunately the RNC convention woke my Bernie-supporting sons up.

I don't think they really got it till they saw those people in action.

[Renew Deal]

26. They are probably right wing agitators sent by Trump to reinforce his "law and order" message

What better for him than chaos on the Democratic side?

[davidn3600]

28. Some people hate both parties

I don't get why that is so difficult to understand. There are a lot of people out there who feel neither party represents them. And there are also a few people out there who are downright anarchists.

Others just want to bring attention to their cause or message and want the delegates and the TV cameras to hear it.

[aikoaiko]

29. Probably because they think there is still the possibility for change within the democratic party.

Its similar, but not the same, some groups protested Democratic candidates during the primary and not the Republicans.

[Expecting Rain]

31. I hope the "fake" so-called progressives

who seem hell-bent on aiding Trump, get a nice baking with some double-century days of heat and humidity in Philly.

Could't happen to a better group of folks.

Meanwhile I hope the real progressives and liberals inside the hall have some very good AC.

Look forward to Monday!

[MFM008]

32. remember the orange hooting ape

is going to be perched in front of his tv watching every second for screw ups/ fights to claim victory
I hope we dont give him one.