Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:06 AM
glennward (989 posts)
Oh, Sally Kohn just let the cat out of the bag that there were e-mails that showed help for BS
Exculpatory e-mails that are not even being talked about.
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glennward | Jul 2016 | OP |
Her Sister | Jul 2016 | #1 | |
Cha | Jul 2016 | #2 | |
bigwillq | Jul 2016 | #3 | |
Fast Walker 52 | Jul 2016 | #4 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #5 | |
Sheepshank | Jul 2016 | #6 | |
JaneyVee | Jul 2016 | #7 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #9 | |
zappaman | Jul 2016 | #25 | |
tralala | Jul 2016 | #46 | |
Fast Walker 52 | Jul 2016 | #70 | |
joeybee12 | Jul 2016 | #12 | |
BainsBane | Jul 2016 | #21 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #31 | |
sufrommich | Jul 2016 | #13 | |
BainsBane | Jul 2016 | #22 | |
MohRokTah | Jul 2016 | #14 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #33 | |
SaschaHM | Jul 2016 | #49 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #50 | |
pnwmom | Jul 2016 | #60 | |
NastyRiffraff | Jul 2016 | #63 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #64 | |
NastyRiffraff | Jul 2016 | #65 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #66 | |
Bradical79 | Jul 2016 | #17 | |
BainsBane | Jul 2016 | #19 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #27 | |
BainsBane | Jul 2016 | #32 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #34 | |
pnwmom | Jul 2016 | #61 | |
annavictorious | Jul 2016 | #35 | |
DemonGoddess | Jul 2016 | #67 | |
okasha | Jul 2016 | #47 | |
Starry Messenger | Jul 2016 | #24 | |
BainsBane | Jul 2016 | #29 | |
annavictorious | Jul 2016 | #26 | |
emulatorloo | Jul 2016 | #36 | |
Scurrilous | Jul 2016 | #37 | |
ismnotwasm | Jul 2016 | #39 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #43 | |
ismnotwasm | Jul 2016 | #44 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #45 | |
LiberalFighter | Jul 2016 | #48 | |
SidDithers | Jul 2016 | #51 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #54 | |
BlueMTexpat | Jul 2016 | #52 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #55 | |
kstewart33 | Jul 2016 | #53 | |
Omaha Steve | Jul 2016 | #57 | |
George II | Jul 2016 | #59 | |
okieinpain | Jul 2016 | #69 | |
JaneyVee | Jul 2016 | #8 | |
glennward | Jul 2016 | #56 | |
Orsino | Jul 2016 | #68 | |
lillypaddle | Jul 2016 | #10 | |
DisgustipatedinCA | Jul 2016 | #11 | |
sufrommich | Jul 2016 | #15 | |
DisgustipatedinCA | Jul 2016 | #18 | |
ismnotwasm | Jul 2016 | #40 | |
Raspol | Jul 2016 | #16 | |
anotherproletariat | Jul 2016 | #20 | |
annavictorious | Jul 2016 | #38 | |
aikoaiko | Jul 2016 | #23 | |
TDale313 | Jul 2016 | #30 | |
annavictorious | Jul 2016 | #41 | |
doc03 | Jul 2016 | #28 | |
B Calm | Jul 2016 | #42 | |
George II | Jul 2016 | #58 | |
cherokeeprogressive | Jul 2016 | #62 |
Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:09 AM
Her Sister (6,444 posts)
1. Oh noooos!!! ~I want to know about emails from the RNC about Trump at that time?
Hmmmm?
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Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:32 AM
Cha (284,035 posts)
2. On tv? Well.. it should come out too.. if not on tv then online.. Tweets.
Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:34 AM
bigwillq (72,790 posts)
3. Then they need to be released and reported (nt)
Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:50 AM
Fast Walker 52 (7,723 posts)
4. yeah, but that doesn't fit the narrative of a rigged DNC process
I doubt it will get as much attention
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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #4)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:55 AM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
5. This from yesterday won't get attention on DU either
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:30 AM
Sheepshank (12,504 posts)
6. What's to discuss?
The trunkated, jaded, constantly offended words of one person certainly does not paint the full picture.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:34 AM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
7. I dont believe any of the hyperbole spewed from Jill fans.
They live in a constant state of conspiracy.
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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #7)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:47 AM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
9. How about former a vice chairwoman of the DNC?
Same exact behavior of only count the votes that vote for us! ![]() http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/271087-top-dnc-official-leaves-post-to-back-sanders In October, she complained she was “disinvited” from a debate after she urged the party to hold more debates. Sanders later offered her a seat with his campaign. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #9)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:57 PM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
25. So Sayeth the Wizard!
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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #7)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:07 PM
tralala (239 posts)
46. Maybe Jill is on the KGB payroll too
Response to tralala (Reply #46)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:11 PM
Fast Walker 52 (7,723 posts)
70. maybe, though not sure if that is sarcasm or not!
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:43 AM
joeybee12 (56,177 posts)
12. What somebody posts on twitter is somehow proof?
jesus
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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #12)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:40 PM
BainsBane (52,585 posts)
21. It's proof they feel entitled to seize control of the committee
Despite not having been elected to it.
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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #12)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:06 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
31. It's in the W Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/23/superdelegates-clash-begins-at-pre-dnc-rules-meeting/ The smaller space used for today's meeting was carefully guarded, to the disappointment of Sanders supporters. Dozens lined up and failed to get into the room, prompting chants of "open the doors" that security guards could not honor without packing even more people into a standing room-only venue. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:44 AM
sufrommich (22,871 posts)
13. Oh no,the "big black guy" meme.
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Response to sufrommich (Reply #13)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:42 PM
BainsBane (52,585 posts)
22. Of course
Fits perfectly.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:44 AM
MohRokTah (15,429 posts)
14. Why in the HELL should they be allowed into a Democratic Party Rules Committee meeting????
![]() They were not members of the committee and had no business there. I proudly support what was done with them. |
Response to MohRokTah (Reply #14)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:09 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
33. The public was allowed in last week
Funny how some conveniently forget things. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #33)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:39 PM
SaschaHM (2,897 posts)
49. Yes and we saw how they acted last week when they didn't get their way...
Why would we want a repeat of that?
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Response to SaschaHM (Reply #49)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:46 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
50. So observers will never be allowed in?
Yesterday they had plenty of security and police apparently. Why change party policy? Let them in. IF they disrupt, then throw them out. Your using pre-crime logic. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #50)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:30 PM
pnwmom (107,670 posts)
60. There was no space to let any more people in, and no reason they were needed there. Other observers
were already inside.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #50)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:53 PM
NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)
63. From your own post:
The smaller space used for today's meeting was carefully guarded, to the disappointment of Sanders supporters. Dozens lined up and failed to get into the room, prompting chants of "open the doors" that security guards could not honor without packing even more people into a standing room-only venue. Emphasis mine. The room was already packed. There are fire dept regulations about the number of people who can fit into one room. Is that so hard to understand? |
Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #63)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 06:08 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
64. Why did they use the smallest room in the complex when larger empty rooms were avaiable?
Is that so hard to understand? |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #64)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:17 PM
NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)
65. Now it's getting absurd
Sarah Silverman to the BernieOr Bust nutters: "You're being ridiculous."
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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #65)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:37 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
66. I am not a Bernie or bust
And Bernie has nothing to do with the bad news cycle. It seems strange you enjoy seeing our party turn it's back on transparency when that was the morning after the email dump. You laugh does nothing to unite even the DU, let alone party. You might work on that. I want to win in Nov. http://www.ksdk.com/news/politics/poll-trump-leads-clinton-in-mo-by-10-points/280772539 If the election were held today, Donald Trump would win in Missouri and the it would not be a close race. That is according to a new SurveyUSA poll conducted exclusively for KSDK. According to a survey of likely voters during and after the Republican National Convention Trump would win both with men and women in Missouri. And that adds up to a 10-point win for Trump in the Show Me State. According to KSDK’s SurveyUSA poll, Trump has an almost 20-point lead with men statewide in Missouri, while his lead with women in the state is only two points - which is within the margin of error of 1.6% for the poll. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:09 PM
Bradical79 (4,490 posts)
17. Why are hundreds of Bernie supporters at a rules comitee meeting?
I'm a bit confused as to what was going on and how these comitee meetings work.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:27 PM
BainsBane (52,585 posts)
19. So they do intend to disrupt
Pay no attention to the fact they weren't elected to serve on that committee and create chaos, which can only help Trump win the presidency.
I'm sure Trump is greatful for their help, and they in turn can exact their revenge on the Democratic Party, and it's voting majority of women and people of color, they so resent. Why should they have to worry about something as trivial as majority rule, when they are certain they deserve power and privilege by birthright. When people aren't self-entitled, they understand and they have to be elected to a committee to be seated. |
Response to BainsBane (Reply #19)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:03 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
27. Don't want the public to see what went on after last weeks DNC fiasco in public?
Link to your disruption theory? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/23/superdelegates-clash-begins-at-pre-dnc-rules-meeting/ The smaller space used for today's meeting was carefully guarded, to the disappointment of Sanders supporters. Dozens lined up and failed to get into the room, prompting chants of "open the doors" that security guards could not honor without packing even more people into a standing room-only venue. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #27)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:08 PM
BainsBane (52,585 posts)
32. She openly calls for Trump to defeat Clinton
It's a committee, not a fuckng rally or rock concert. The person tweeting isn't even a Democrat. Should Newt Gingrich be able to attend as well?
The last thing on earth I care about is what Trump humping ratfuckers like that tweeter think. They belong no where near the convention. It's for Democrats elected as Delegates, not Trump supporters. Jesus Christ. |
Response to BainsBane (Reply #32)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:12 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
34. She isn't mentioned in the WP story
The public was allowed in last week. Where was your attitude then? |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #34)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:31 PM
pnwmom (107,670 posts)
61. Some members of the public were allowed in last week, and some were allowed in this week.
Probably more showed up this week,but there wasn't space for more.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #27)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:14 PM
annavictorious (934 posts)
35. Entitlement
"I'm a Jill Stein / Donald Trump supporter who wants the Democratic nominee stopped, but I was disenfranchised by the DNC when it did not allow me to vote during their subcommittee meeting. IT'S VOTER SUPPRESSION!"
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Response to annavictorious (Reply #35)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:40 PM
DemonGoddess (4,640 posts)
67. ^^^This!!!
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #27)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:13 PM
okasha (11,573 posts)
47. Apparently there is enough of "the public"
present at the meeting that some are standing. Fire regulations govern how many people may occupy a public space.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:48 PM
Starry Messenger (32,335 posts)
24. That woman wants Trump to beat Hillary.
https://twitter.com/amyzworldamy/status/757255891338993668
I can only watch 15 minutes of #ClintonCash at a time.I'll campaign 4 Jill but I urge swing states to vote Trump.She must be stopped. #livid |
Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #24)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:03 PM
BainsBane (52,585 posts)
29. Of course, that's the whole point of what they are doing.
That much is obvious.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:02 PM
annavictorious (934 posts)
26. I don't put faith on spin from someone called "Amy 4 Jill"
And I don't understand why DU should be advancing the narratives of an opposition party supporter.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:20 PM
emulatorloo (41,206 posts)
36. Sorry Steve, I trust nothing said by Liars For Jill who advocate swing-staters vote for Trump
Nor do I beleive everything I read on Twit-ter is the gospel truth.
You're a good man and I love you. But I doubt the veracity of your source. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:20 PM
Scurrilous (38,676 posts)
37. She disrupted poorly.
@#$% her and Jill Stein.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:22 PM
ismnotwasm (40,975 posts)
39. "A Big Black guy"
You've got to be fucking kidding me. Would they say "A big white guy"??
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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #39)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:27 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
43. I'm called "A big white guy"
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #43)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:49 PM
ismnotwasm (40,975 posts)
44. By whom?
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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #44)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:55 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
45. When I'm described by people
It has even come up on the DU that way. My son gets it too. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:37 PM
LiberalFighter (45,624 posts)
48. Why are you pushing something from a Stein supporter?
You know they are agitating to disrupt the DNC Convention.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:22 PM
SidDithers (44,228 posts)
51. Oh FFS...
why should ratfuckers like @amyzworldamy be allowed into Democratic party committee meetings.
What's her JPR name? Sid |
Response to SidDithers (Reply #51)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:32 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
54. Party policy is it was open to the public as in the past
You ashamed of something that happened in that room? A Dem doctor from Fl says there were empty chairs.... No idea if she is on JPR. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:28 PM
BlueMTexpat (15,135 posts)
52. How many times do you have to post this, OS?
Once is enough. I've seen it in at least one other thread.
Why are you posting anything from a Jill/Bernie supporter on DU anyway? Neither Jill nor Bernie is on the Democratic ticket. |
Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #52)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:37 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
55. I also posted the W Post link & paragraph
I replied in this OP that ain't mine. I gave it it's own post in this the proper forum too. Bernie is speaking from the podium this week last I knew. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:32 PM
kstewart33 (6,551 posts)
53. Well, if it came from 'Amy 4 Jill,' it must be true.
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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #53)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:46 PM
Omaha Steve (92,603 posts)
57. How is it so many DUers can't see the W Post Link & info?
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:19 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
59. Perhaps because it's never been corroborated? Surely if "hundreds" were escorted out...
...there would be many reports about it?
And if they were waiting for permission to be let it, how could they be forced out? |
Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #4)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:58 PM
okieinpain (9,396 posts)
69. True n/t.
Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:36 AM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
8. The DNC bent over backwards for Bernie Sanders...
Giving a non Democrat access to decades of resources, tools, and voter rolls. Then he sues them.
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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:42 PM
glennward (989 posts)
56. Speaks volumes about the kind of person he really is. nt
Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:51 PM
Orsino (37,428 posts)
68. That's not bending over backwards.
That's what a Democratic candidate ought to receive at a minimum.
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Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:36 AM
lillypaddle (9,515 posts)
10. Well, of course they aren't being talked about
would ruin the current narrative.
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Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:39 AM
DisgustipatedinCA (12,530 posts)
11. All of the emails are available. Post the one you're referring to.
Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #11)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:47 AM
sufrommich (22,871 posts)
15. How could you possibly know that "all" the emails
have been released?
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Response to sufrommich (Reply #15)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:30 PM
DisgustipatedinCA (12,530 posts)
18. You don't get to derail this. It's not in your purview.
And in fact, I took a shortcut with my words. More emails will be released in the coming days, so no, not all emails have been released. That aside, a claim has been made about some of the emails that have been released. I'd like to see them. You're attempting to change the subject; I'm not permitting that.
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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #18)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:23 PM
ismnotwasm (40,975 posts)
40. There more than the 20,000 on the wiki-leaks page?
How do you know-- did wikileaks say?
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Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:47 AM
Raspol (20 posts)
16. So Russia was cherry-picking
shocker.
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Response to Raspol (Reply #16)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:34 PM
anotherproletariat (1,446 posts)
20. Surprising, right? nt
Response to Raspol (Reply #16)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:20 PM
annavictorious (934 posts)
38. Even with the cherry-picking, they couldn't find an email that implicates DWS.
The DNC should do EXACTLY what the Sanders campaign did when they were caught stealing data: repudiate the behavior, fire the two individuals involved, and move on.
If that response was ethical enough for Sanders, then it's ethical enough for DWS. |
Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:42 PM
aikoaiko (33,343 posts)
23. The DNC is supposed to help candidates impartially.
How the hell does that exculpate the DNC that they did there jobs at times. |
Response to aikoaiko (Reply #23)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:05 PM
TDale313 (7,758 posts)
30. Yeah, exactly
"Oh, there are some emails that show them at times not totally screwing over the Sanders Camp" does not let them off the hook for the ones that do. The DNC are, as you point out, by their own damn rules, supposed to be impartial. We've seen plenty- even before these emails- that shows they were always biased.
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Response to TDale313 (Reply #30)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:25 PM
annavictorious (934 posts)
41. The DNC remained impartial. None of the strategies the two individuals discussed were employed.
This is very similar to (but not as serious as) the two rogue Sanders operatives who stole data back in February. The DNC should respond exactly the way the Sanders campaign responded to the data theft.
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Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:03 PM
doc03 (33,020 posts)
28. Here we go our convention is this week and Trump is playing the
news media like a Stradivarius. I turn on every channel and they are talking about Trump and trying to work up Sanders
and his supporters to disrupt the convention, rather than the Democratic ticket. |
Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:25 PM
B Calm (28,762 posts)
42. So Sally just admittedly said the DNC was not being impartial.
Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:15 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
58. Of course the reporting on the emails will be one-sided. And Sally Kohn has been a strong...
...supporter of Sanders throughout the campaign. Good for her!
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Response to glennward (Original post)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:35 PM
cherokeeprogressive (24,853 posts)
62. Exculpatory? Show us.