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Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:06 AM

 

Oh, Sally Kohn just let the cat out of the bag that there were e-mails that showed help for BS

Exculpatory e-mails that are not even being talked about.

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Reply Oh, Sally Kohn just let the cat out of the bag that there were e-mails that showed help for BS (Original post)
glennward Jul 2016 OP
Her Sister Jul 2016 #1
Cha Jul 2016 #2
bigwillq Jul 2016 #3
Fast Walker 52 Jul 2016 #4
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #5
Sheepshank Jul 2016 #6
JaneyVee Jul 2016 #7
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #9
zappaman Jul 2016 #25
tralala Jul 2016 #46
Fast Walker 52 Jul 2016 #70
joeybee12 Jul 2016 #12
BainsBane Jul 2016 #21
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #31
sufrommich Jul 2016 #13
BainsBane Jul 2016 #22
MohRokTah Jul 2016 #14
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #33
SaschaHM Jul 2016 #49
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #50
pnwmom Jul 2016 #60
NastyRiffraff Jul 2016 #63
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #64
NastyRiffraff Jul 2016 #65
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #66
Bradical79 Jul 2016 #17
BainsBane Jul 2016 #19
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #27
BainsBane Jul 2016 #32
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #34
pnwmom Jul 2016 #61
annavictorious Jul 2016 #35
DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #67
okasha Jul 2016 #47
Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #24
BainsBane Jul 2016 #29
annavictorious Jul 2016 #26
emulatorloo Jul 2016 #36
Scurrilous Jul 2016 #37
ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #39
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #43
ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #44
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #45
LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #48
SidDithers Jul 2016 #51
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #54
BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #52
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #55
kstewart33 Jul 2016 #53
Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #57
George II Jul 2016 #59
okieinpain Jul 2016 #69
JaneyVee Jul 2016 #8
glennward Jul 2016 #56
Orsino Jul 2016 #68
lillypaddle Jul 2016 #10
DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2016 #11
sufrommich Jul 2016 #15
DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2016 #18
ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #40
Raspol Jul 2016 #16
anotherproletariat Jul 2016 #20
annavictorious Jul 2016 #38
aikoaiko Jul 2016 #23
TDale313 Jul 2016 #30
annavictorious Jul 2016 #41
doc03 Jul 2016 #28
B Calm Jul 2016 #42
George II Jul 2016 #58
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #62

Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:09 AM

1. Oh noooos!!! ~I want to know about emails from the RNC about Trump at that time?

 

Hmmmm?

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:32 AM

2. On tv? Well.. it should come out too.. if not on tv then online.. Tweets.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:34 AM

3. Then they need to be released and reported (nt)

 

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:50 AM

4. yeah, but that doesn't fit the narrative of a rigged DNC process

 

I doubt it will get as much attention

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:55 AM

5. This from yesterday won't get attention on DU either

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:30 AM

6. What's to discuss?

 

The trunkated, jaded, constantly offended words of one person certainly does not paint the full picture.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:34 AM

7. I dont believe any of the hyperbole spewed from Jill fans.

 

They live in a constant state of conspiracy.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:47 AM

9. How about former a vice chairwoman of the DNC?


Same exact behavior of only count the votes that vote for us!

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/271087-top-dnc-official-leaves-post-to-back-sanders


In October, she complained she was “disinvited” from a debate after she urged the party to hold more debates. Sanders later offered her a seat with his campaign.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:57 PM

25. So Sayeth the Wizard!

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:07 PM

46. Maybe Jill is on the KGB payroll too

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Response to tralala (Reply #46)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:11 PM

70. maybe, though not sure if that is sarcasm or not!

 

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:43 AM

12. What somebody posts on twitter is somehow proof?

 

jesus

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:40 PM

21. It's proof they feel entitled to seize control of the committee

Despite not having been elected to it.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:06 PM

31. It's in the W Post


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/23/superdelegates-clash-begins-at-pre-dnc-rules-meeting/

The smaller space used for today's meeting was carefully guarded, to the disappointment of Sanders supporters. Dozens lined up and failed to get into the room, prompting chants of "open the doors" that security guards could not honor without packing even more people into a standing room-only venue.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:44 AM

13. Oh no,the "big black guy" meme.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #13)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:42 PM

22. Of course

Fits perfectly.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:44 AM

14. Why in the HELL should they be allowed into a Democratic Party Rules Committee meeting????

 



They were not members of the committee and had no business there. I proudly support what was done with them.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:09 PM

33. The public was allowed in last week


Funny how some conveniently forget things.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #33)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:39 PM

49. Yes and we saw how they acted last week when they didn't get their way...

Why would we want a repeat of that?

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Response to SaschaHM (Reply #49)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:46 PM

50. So observers will never be allowed in?


Yesterday they had plenty of security and police apparently. Why change party policy? Let them in. IF they disrupt, then throw them out. Your using pre-crime logic.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #50)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:30 PM

60. There was no space to let any more people in, and no reason they were needed there. Other observers

were already inside.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #50)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:53 PM

63. From your own post:

The smaller space used for today's meeting was carefully guarded, to the disappointment of Sanders supporters. Dozens lined up and failed to get into the room, prompting chants of "open the doors" that security guards could not honor without packing even more people into a standing room-only venue.


Emphasis mine. The room was already packed. There are fire dept regulations about the number of people who can fit into one room. Is that so hard to understand?

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #63)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 06:08 PM

64. Why did they use the smallest room in the complex when larger empty rooms were avaiable?


Is that so hard to understand?

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #64)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:17 PM

65. Now it's getting absurd

Sarah Silverman to the BernieOr Bust nutters: "You're being ridiculous."












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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #65)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:37 PM

66. I am not a Bernie or bust


And Bernie has nothing to do with the bad news cycle.

It seems strange you enjoy seeing our party turn it's back on transparency when that was the morning after the email dump.

You laugh does nothing to unite even the DU, let alone party. You might work on that. I want to win in Nov.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/politics/poll-trump-leads-clinton-in-mo-by-10-points/280772539

If the election were held today, Donald Trump would win in Missouri and the it would not be a close race.
That is according to a new SurveyUSA poll conducted exclusively for KSDK.

According to a survey of likely voters during and after the Republican National Convention Trump would win both with men and women in Missouri.

And that adds up to a 10-point win for Trump in the Show Me State. According to KSDK’s SurveyUSA poll, Trump has an almost 20-point lead with men statewide in Missouri, while his lead with women in the state is only two points - which is within the margin of error of 1.6% for the poll.



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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:09 PM

17. Why are hundreds of Bernie supporters at a rules comitee meeting?

 

I'm a bit confused as to what was going on and how these comitee meetings work.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:27 PM

19. So they do intend to disrupt

Pay no attention to the fact they weren't elected to serve on that committee and create chaos, which can only help Trump win the presidency.


I'm sure Trump is greatful for their help, and they in turn can exact their revenge on the Democratic Party, and it's voting majority of women and people of color, they so resent. Why should they have to worry about something as trivial as majority rule, when they are certain they deserve power and privilege by birthright.

When people aren't self-entitled, they understand and they have to be elected to a committee to be seated.


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Response to BainsBane (Reply #19)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:03 PM

27. Don't want the public to see what went on after last weeks DNC fiasco in public?


Link to your disruption theory?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/23/superdelegates-clash-begins-at-pre-dnc-rules-meeting/

The smaller space used for today's meeting was carefully guarded, to the disappointment of Sanders supporters. Dozens lined up and failed to get into the room, prompting chants of "open the doors" that security guards could not honor without packing even more people into a standing room-only venue.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #27)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:08 PM

32. She openly calls for Trump to defeat Clinton

It's a committee, not a fuckng rally or rock concert. The person tweeting isn't even a Democrat. Should Newt Gingrich be able to attend as well?

The last thing on earth I care about is what Trump humping ratfuckers like that tweeter think. They belong no where near the convention. It's for Democrats elected as Delegates, not Trump supporters. Jesus Christ.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #32)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:12 PM

34. She isn't mentioned in the WP story


The public was allowed in last week. Where was your attitude then?

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #34)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:31 PM

61. Some members of the public were allowed in last week, and some were allowed in this week.

Probably more showed up this week,but there wasn't space for more.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #27)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:14 PM

35. Entitlement

 

"I'm a Jill Stein / Donald Trump supporter who wants the Democratic nominee stopped, but I was disenfranchised by the DNC when it did not allow me to vote during their subcommittee meeting. IT'S VOTER SUPPRESSION!"

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Response to annavictorious (Reply #35)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:40 PM

67. ^^^This!!!

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #27)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:13 PM

47. Apparently there is enough of "the public"

present at the meeting that some are standing. Fire regulations govern how many people may occupy a public space.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:48 PM

24. That woman wants Trump to beat Hillary.

https://twitter.com/amyzworldamy/status/757255891338993668


I can only watch 15 minutes of #ClintonCash at a time.I'll campaign 4 Jill but I urge swing states to vote Trump.She must be stopped. #livid

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #24)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:03 PM

29. Of course, that's the whole point of what they are doing.

That much is obvious.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:02 PM

26. I don't put faith on spin from someone called "Amy 4 Jill"

 

And I don't understand why DU should be advancing the narratives of an opposition party supporter.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:20 PM

36. Sorry Steve, I trust nothing said by Liars For Jill who advocate swing-staters vote for Trump

Nor do I beleive everything I read on Twit-ter is the gospel truth.

You're a good man and I love you. But I doubt the veracity of your source.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:20 PM

37. She disrupted poorly.

@#$% her and Jill Stein.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:22 PM

39. "A Big Black guy"

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Would they say "A big white guy"??

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #39)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:27 PM

43. I'm called "A big white guy"


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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #43)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:49 PM

44. By whom?

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #44)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:55 PM

45. When I'm described by people


It has even come up on the DU that way. My son gets it too.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:37 PM

48. Why are you pushing something from a Stein supporter?

You know they are agitating to disrupt the DNC Convention.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:22 PM

51. Oh FFS...

why should ratfuckers like @amyzworldamy be allowed into Democratic party committee meetings.

What's her JPR name?

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #51)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:32 PM

54. Party policy is it was open to the public as in the past


You ashamed of something that happened in that room? A Dem doctor from Fl says there were empty chairs....

No idea if she is on JPR.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:28 PM

52. How many times do you have to post this, OS?

Once is enough. I've seen it in at least one other thread.

Why are you posting anything from a Jill/Bernie supporter on DU anyway? Neither Jill nor Bernie is on the Democratic ticket.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #52)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:37 PM

55. I also posted the W Post link & paragraph


I replied in this OP that ain't mine. I gave it it's own post in this the proper forum too.

Bernie is speaking from the podium this week last I knew.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:32 PM

53. Well, if it came from 'Amy 4 Jill,' it must be true.

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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #53)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:46 PM

57. How is it so many DUers can't see the W Post Link & info?


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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:19 PM

59. Perhaps because it's never been corroborated? Surely if "hundreds" were escorted out...

...there would be many reports about it?

And if they were waiting for permission to be let it, how could they be forced out?

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:58 PM

69. True n/t.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:36 AM

8. The DNC bent over backwards for Bernie Sanders...

 

Giving a non Democrat access to decades of resources, tools, and voter rolls. Then he sues them.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:42 PM

56. Speaks volumes about the kind of person he really is. nt

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:51 PM

68. That's not bending over backwards.

That's what a Democratic candidate ought to receive at a minimum.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:36 AM

10. Well, of course they aren't being talked about

would ruin the current narrative.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:39 AM

11. All of the emails are available. Post the one you're referring to.

 

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:47 AM

15. How could you possibly know that "all" the emails

have been released?

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #15)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:30 PM

18. You don't get to derail this. It's not in your purview.

 

And in fact, I took a shortcut with my words. More emails will be released in the coming days, so no, not all emails have been released. That aside, a claim has been made about some of the emails that have been released. I'd like to see them. You're attempting to change the subject; I'm not permitting that.

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #18)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:23 PM

40. There more than the 20,000 on the wiki-leaks page?

How do you know-- did wikileaks say?

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:47 AM

16. So Russia was cherry-picking

 

shocker.

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Response to Raspol (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:34 PM

20. Surprising, right? nt

 

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Response to Raspol (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:20 PM

38. Even with the cherry-picking, they couldn't find an email that implicates DWS.

 

The DNC should do EXACTLY what the Sanders campaign did when they were caught stealing data: repudiate the behavior, fire the two individuals involved, and move on.

If that response was ethical enough for Sanders, then it's ethical enough for DWS.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:42 PM

23. The DNC is supposed to help candidates impartially.


How the hell does that exculpate the DNC that they did there jobs at times.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #23)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:05 PM

30. Yeah, exactly

"Oh, there are some emails that show them at times not totally screwing over the Sanders Camp" does not let them off the hook for the ones that do. The DNC are, as you point out, by their own damn rules, supposed to be impartial. We've seen plenty- even before these emails- that shows they were always biased.

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #30)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:25 PM

41. The DNC remained impartial. None of the strategies the two individuals discussed were employed.

 

This is very similar to (but not as serious as) the two rogue Sanders operatives who stole data back in February. The DNC should respond exactly the way the Sanders campaign responded to the data theft.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:03 PM

28. Here we go our convention is this week and Trump is playing the

news media like a Stradivarius. I turn on every channel and they are talking about Trump and trying to work up Sanders
and his supporters to disrupt the convention, rather than the Democratic ticket.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:25 PM

42. So Sally just admittedly said the DNC was not being impartial.

 

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:15 PM

58. Of course the reporting on the emails will be one-sided. And Sally Kohn has been a strong...

...supporter of Sanders throughout the campaign. Good for her!

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:35 PM

62. Exculpatory? Show us.

 

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