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Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:32 AM

I'm tired of hearing "Hillary's the only Democrat who can't beat Trump"

How naive are we to swallow and repeat this crap?

Hillary's numbers have been dragged down PRECISELY because she CAN beat the Republicans. That's why they went after her. That's why they launched the Benghazi "scandal" witchhunt. That's why they raked her over the coals, pushed for an FBI investigation, and hammered the "not honest and trustworthy" drumbeat - that too many Democrats picked up and banged along with them.

This has little to do with Hillary herself. If a different Democrat had been the frontrunner, they would have found a slit in THEIR armour and done exactly the same thing to them, probably to even greater effect since there isn't another Democrat on the scene who is more battle-tested and able to withstand such an onslaught as well as Hillary.

So, myyfellow Dems, PLEASE stop doing the Republicans' work for them - stop repeating this BS mantra that Hillary is inherently weak. She's only as vulnerable as we let her be and if we stand firm and strong WITH HER, she's unstoppable!

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Reply I'm tired of hearing "Hillary's the only Democrat who can't beat Trump" (Original post)
EffieBlack Jul 2016 OP
Skinner Jul 2016 #1
DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #2
brer cat Jul 2016 #3
JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2016 #7
Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #8
Cosmocat Jul 2016 #4
DinahMoeHum Jul 2016 #6
EffieBlack Jul 2016 #9
CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #5

Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:35 AM

1. Considering that she's the Democratic nominee...

...she is the only human being on the entire planet who can beat Trump.

Everything else is noise.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:36 AM

2. ^^^This!!!

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Response to Skinner (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:44 AM

3. Yes! nt

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Response to Skinner (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:41 AM

7. By the same logic, she's the only human being who can lose to Trump.

So, the OP makes a valid, if sort-of-funny, point.

Wait, no, Clinton's not the only one who can defeat Trump. Trump can also defeat Trump, and he's doing a bang-up job of it.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:44 AM

8. My earlier response to a remark that die-hard Sanders voters are livid about the Kaine pick

 

and that the only "unity", if any, between Clinton and Sanders people is supposedly the imperative to defeat Trump:


Well, the Bernie or Bust people will soon have to decide where their real priorities lie, I guess.

This is the ticket. Point, finale.

A Trump defeat is only going to come through this ticket. No do-overs.


Will they vote for the ticket even though they didn't get their way? Remains to be seen.

If not, then we can only qualify them as "Bernie or Bust".

Cornell West? Nina Turner? Who can say...

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:47 AM

4. I voted Bernie

and I truly wish we lived in a world where he would have been the nominee.

But, I always knew Hillary was going to the primary, and I posted the point you made countless times here.

The reason Hillary is so "damaged" is the very reason you noted, the right wing has spent a quarter century now, literally savaging her, and the dolts in this country hear them screaming bloody murder and don't have the common sense to recognize it for the partisan hatchet job it is, and just think it is about her - WHICH THEY KNOW.

And, as you noted, it is because she has always been such a big threat.

You can see in her "approval" rating. It rose to the 70s or so when she lost the primary in 08 and became SOS, then started to dip at that point at which BHO had won his second term and they knew she coming again.

This is what they do, and Bernie was not immune to it by any means.

They destroyed good, honorable, intelligent can capable men in Gore, Dean, Kerry ...

Bernie is great, but he absolutely; was not immune to their bullshit, he would not be anywhere near his peak level in "approval" right now had he surpassed Hillary and been the presumptive nominee months ago, we would be facing some bullshit sal alinsky, revereand wright, flag win SCANDAL now, some completely bullshit thing like Benghazi and the e-mails that everyone in the country woudl be exposed to ever second of every day with right winger screaming their heads off and the country thinking it really was about Bernie.

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:07 AM

6. +1000s

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:00 AM

9. THIS^^^

is what I also wanted to say but I didn't have the time or patience to explain it clearly - thank you for putting it so much more succinctly and eloquently than I could have.

You nailed it - this should be an OP!

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:51 AM

5. It's especially stupid since she currently IS beating Trump.

 

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