Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:23 PM Jul 2016

Jill Stein doesn’t mind helping Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton

Jill Stein doesn’t mind helping Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton

Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate for president, thinks progressives should vote for her even if it means Donald Trump would defeat Hillary Clinton as a result.

“Sometimes you have to lose elections to build your power,” Stein told RI Future in a wide-ranging, 35-minute interview Wednesday. “Because we don’t get out of this hole unless we build our power. We don’t change this system unless we challenge it. In the words of Frederick Douglass ‘power concedes nothing without a demand.’ It never has, it never will. We’ve been doing this lesser evil thing for quite a while right now and this politics of fear has brought us everything we are afraid of. All those things we didn’t want we’ve gotten by the droves because the lesser evil essentially silences us.”


Anybody willing to vote for Stein over Clinton needs their head examined.
35 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Jill Stein doesn’t mind helping Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton (Original Post) SFnomad Jul 2016 OP
Jill Stein is a fascist. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #1
I wonder if she'll become a pundit on RT after the election like Fast Eddy Schultz,the shape shifter RonniePudding Jul 2016 #2
As far as I'm concerned, anyone working against Clinton is in bed with Putin Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #18
A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #3
+1 sarae Jul 2016 #31
anti vaccine fucking dumbass who says she will put snowden in her cabinet JI7 Jul 2016 #4
+1 tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #14
So she's pro-Putin in other ways as well? No surprise there I guess. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #19
Couldn't have said it better myself n/t JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #27
Same strategy as the the populist demogogue Senator Huey Long in 1935 andym Jul 2016 #5
M ex wife is voting for stein gabeana Jul 2016 #6
She said the weekend of the 2012 election it would be better if Rmoney won ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #7
She is a white privileged idiot. lunasun Jul 2016 #13
That's what bothers me so much. sarae Jul 2016 #32
I dare her to bring that message to Boyle Heights, to Montebello, to Watts. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #8
To the Borderlands. okasha Jul 2016 #9
I was in Philadelphia tonite. Raine1967 Jul 2016 #20
This..... UMTerp01 Jul 2016 #10
Jill Stein better find some missing progressives as well because if PoC, Women, Lgbt, etc.... SaschaHM Jul 2016 #11
"Sometimes you have to lose elections to build your power" -- hmm, hasn't worked for her. TwilightZone Jul 2016 #12
she may have a point. she kept losing elections for lower office and now she is a candidate for JI7 Jul 2016 #15
She was already a candidate for president in 2012. TwilightZone Jul 2016 #24
isn't that the conservative mantra runaway hero Jul 2016 #28
"Sometimes you have to lose elections to build your power," yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #16
Or "We must destroy the village to save the village". Midnight Writer Jul 2016 #17
Green makes me see red and feel the blues. nt TeamPooka Jul 2016 #21
people who vote for her or defend her are republicans. worse than trump devotees. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #22
that's why SheriffBob Jul 2016 #23
Because that's how that lunatic fringe element rolls. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #25
Grrrrr apcalc Jul 2016 #26
Jill Stein is a narcissistic asshole nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #29
Ironically, if she were really concerned with building party power whatthehey Jul 2016 #30
She's probably got a sweet deal to be a pundit on RT after its over RonniePudding Jul 2016 #33
If Progressives vote for Jill Stein they will lose their power if Trump is elected UCmeNdc Jul 2016 #34
Earth to Jill... Mike Nelson Jul 2016 #35

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
18. As far as I'm concerned, anyone working against Clinton is in bed with Putin
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:25 AM
Jul 2016

either literally, effectively or directly. It's all the same.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
4. anti vaccine fucking dumbass who says she will put snowden in her cabinet
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jul 2016

a fucking joke of a party the greens are.

andym

(5,443 posts)
5. Same strategy as the the populist demogogue Senator Huey Long in 1935
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jul 2016

Huey long believed that FDR was beholden to corporate powers, and wanted to challenge FDR from the Left. Long wanted to redistribute wealth from the rich to everyone. He planned to challenge FDR on the left from a new political party based on his Share the Wealth clubs, and figured he could capture 10% of the vote, throwing the 1936 election to the republicans. He would then ride in on his white horse in 1940 as a Democrat and sweep to power cleaning up the GOP mess that would have resulted. That was the plan and it was actually might have worked, if he didn't get shot in 1935.

One difference, Stein would never the get the Democratic nod in 2020-- but perhaps she feels an ally might.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
7. She said the weekend of the 2012 election it would be better if Rmoney won
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:33 PM
Jul 2016

Fuck "Doctor" Jill Stein. She is a white privileged idiot.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
13. She is a white privileged idiot.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:03 AM
Jul 2016

that's why it doesn't matter to them.
nothing to lose if he wins
f her
and her voters

sarae

(3,284 posts)
32. That's what bothers me so much.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jul 2016

She doesn't give a shit about anyone who's not white, if she's willing to hand the election to Trump.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. I dare her to bring that message to Boyle Heights, to Montebello, to Watts.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:34 PM
Jul 2016

Her lily white privileged ass won't even get out of her car.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
20. I was in Philadelphia tonite.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:06 AM
Jul 2016

I dare her to bring that message there.

Dare her to bring that message to North Philadelphia, particularly the area called the Philadelphia Badlands.



She has not one clue because -- she has the privilege of saying so. I wonder is she has ever had the courage to walk through -- or even DRIVE -- through these neighborhoods.

They were burned down LONG before white people like here were willing to advocate tearing shit down for a complete rebuild.

No one ever came came back to rebuild the Badlands.


 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
10. This.....
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jul 2016

You know what...if I say what I REALLY want to say I will get a permanent ban from this place so I am just gonna be quiet and just say NO!!!! No it would not be good if we lose this election to build power.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
11. Jill Stein better find some missing progressives as well because if PoC, Women, Lgbt, etc....
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:49 PM
Jul 2016

feel abandoned to Trump by "progressives" say goodbye to that movement unless Republicans start taking them seriously.

TwilightZone

(25,467 posts)
12. "Sometimes you have to lose elections to build your power" -- hmm, hasn't worked for her.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jul 2016

And she's lost a lot of elections.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
15. she may have a point. she kept losing elections for lower office and now she is a candidate for
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:16 AM
Jul 2016

higher office . THE highest office in the country.

TwilightZone

(25,467 posts)
24. She was already a candidate for president in 2012.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 08:45 AM
Jul 2016

She got 0.35% of the vote. She's getting nowhere.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
16. "Sometimes you have to lose elections to build your power,"
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:21 AM
Jul 2016

Its sounds more like:
"Sometimes you have to Kill your CREW to save the ship"

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
22. people who vote for her or defend her are republicans. worse than trump devotees.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:15 AM
Jul 2016

at least trump's base don't pretend to be something they are not.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
30. Ironically, if she were really concerned with building party power
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:15 AM
Jul 2016

by building a group of Green councillors, aldermen, mayors, state reps and so on first I'd find her approach much more laudable than these absurd quadrennial quixotic quests for the presidency which just help fascists.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
34. If Progressives vote for Jill Stein they will lose their power if Trump is elected
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:26 AM
Jul 2016

Progressives will have 0% influence over who goes on a Donald Trump Supreme Court.
Hillary Clinton will listen and provide a 100% more progressive Supreme Court than Donald Trump.



Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Jill Stein doesn’t mind h...