2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJill Stein doesn’t mind helping Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton
Jill Stein doesnt mind helping Donald Trump beat Hillary ClintonSometimes you have to lose elections to build your power, Stein told RI Future in a wide-ranging, 35-minute interview Wednesday. Because we dont get out of this hole unless we build our power. We dont change this system unless we challenge it. In the words of Frederick Douglass power concedes nothing without a demand. It never has, it never will. Weve been doing this lesser evil thing for quite a while right now and this politics of fear has brought us everything we are afraid of. All those things we didnt want weve gotten by the droves because the lesser evil essentially silences us.
Anybody willing to vote for Stein over Clinton needs their head examined.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)RonniePudding
(889 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)either literally, effectively or directly. It's all the same.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Stein doesn't care about anyone but herself.
JI7
(89,247 posts)a fucking joke of a party the greens are.
That about sums it up!
Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,813 posts)andym
(5,443 posts)Huey long believed that FDR was beholden to corporate powers, and wanted to challenge FDR from the Left. Long wanted to redistribute wealth from the rich to everyone. He planned to challenge FDR on the left from a new political party based on his Share the Wealth clubs, and figured he could capture 10% of the vote, throwing the 1936 election to the republicans. He would then ride in on his white horse in 1940 as a Democrat and sweep to power cleaning up the GOP mess that would have resulted. That was the plan and it was actually might have worked, if he didn't get shot in 1935.
One difference, Stein would never the get the Democratic nod in 2020-- but perhaps she feels an ally might.
gabeana
(3,166 posts)thats why we are exes, shit like that
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Fuck "Doctor" Jill Stein. She is a white privileged idiot.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)that's why it doesn't matter to them.
nothing to lose if he wins
f her
and her voters
sarae
(3,284 posts)She doesn't give a shit about anyone who's not white, if she's willing to hand the election to Trump.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Her lily white privileged ass won't even get out of her car.
okasha
(11,573 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I dare her to bring that message there.
Dare her to bring that message to North Philadelphia, particularly the area called the Philadelphia Badlands.
She has not one clue because -- she has the privilege of saying so. I wonder is she has ever had the courage to walk through -- or even DRIVE -- through these neighborhoods.
They were burned down LONG before white people like here were willing to advocate tearing shit down for a complete rebuild.
No one ever came came back to rebuild the Badlands.
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)You know what...if I say what I REALLY want to say I will get a permanent ban from this place so I am just gonna be quiet and just say NO!!!! No it would not be good if we lose this election to build power.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)feel abandoned to Trump by "progressives" say goodbye to that movement unless Republicans start taking them seriously.
TwilightZone
(25,467 posts)And she's lost a lot of elections.
JI7
(89,247 posts)higher office . THE highest office in the country.
TwilightZone
(25,467 posts)She got 0.35% of the vote. She's getting nowhere.
runaway hero
(835 posts)"lose with honor"
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Its sounds more like:
"Sometimes you have to Kill your CREW to save the ship"
Midnight Writer
(21,751 posts)TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)at least trump's base don't pretend to be something they are not.
SheriffBob
(552 posts)She's a Nazi pig.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)She's a kook.
apcalc
(4,463 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)whatthehey
(3,660 posts)by building a group of Green councillors, aldermen, mayors, state reps and so on first I'd find her approach much more laudable than these absurd quadrennial quixotic quests for the presidency which just help fascists.
RonniePudding
(889 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Progressives will have 0% influence over who goes on a Donald Trump Supreme Court.
Hillary Clinton will listen and provide a 100% more progressive Supreme Court than Donald Trump.
Mike Nelson
(9,953 posts)...it's not "lose elections," it's lose your country. Wake up, Jill Stein!