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There is an OP that is saying Nate projects Donald to win. IT IS A LIE. (Original Post) Squinch Jul 2016 OP
Why can't we get the op hidden? redstatebluegirl Jul 2016 #1
I saw that, its reversed? Cosmocat Jul 2016 #2
Nope. The numbers aren't close. Squinch Jul 2016 #6
Thanks for the clarification. UtahLib Jul 2016 #3
It wasn't a lie, but thankfully it has been updated. M_Demo_M Jul 2016 #4
FiveThirtyEight has three forecast models - the 'Now' forecast has Trump ahead: Make7 Jul 2016 #5
The OP says it has Donald projected to win. Squinch Jul 2016 #8
But the OP said that Donald was projected to win. This is not true. Squinch Jul 2016 #13
Is that the OP that ends with: Make7 Jul 2016 #17
In the small print. After the big honking headline that says Donald is winning. And then an Squinch Jul 2016 #21
You misunderstand... brooklynite Jul 2016 #7
Yes, and the OP said that Nate was projecting Donald to win. Squinch Jul 2016 #10
I just pulled it up, as quoted in the other OP, and it shows Trump up on vote % and electoral votes Matt_in_STL Jul 2016 #9
It is the nowcast, but the OP says that Nate is projecting Donald to win. He isn't. Squinch Jul 2016 #11
K&R Scuba Jul 2016 #12
The source they used in that OP was salon still_one Jul 2016 #14
Then Salon and the OP wish to create the same confusion. Nate forecasts Hillary to win. Still. Squinch Jul 2016 #16
I agree. Salon has an extreme bias against Hillary, and I believe this was intentional on their still_one Jul 2016 #18
I am so frickin' tired of this shit. You are welcome. Squinch Jul 2016 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #15
Here is Silver's Twitter page, and his Poll+ reverse the Salon numbers still_one Jul 2016 #22
It came from Salon Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #20

M_Demo_M

(158 posts)
4. It wasn't a lie, but thankfully it has been updated.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jul 2016

I checked earlier today and Nate had Trump at 285 Electoral votes. Must have gotten new data. It's still way too close.

Make7

(8,543 posts)
17. Is that the OP that ends with:
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jul 2016

[div class="excerpt" style="margin-right:3px; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #bfbfbf inset;"]But in the the polls-plus equation, which Silver seems to think the most accurate, Clinton still has a 57.8% chance of being our next President.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
21. In the small print. After the big honking headline that says Donald is winning. And then an
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jul 2016

article about how Donald is winning. When in fact he's losing.

Yep. That one.

brooklynite

(94,508 posts)
7. You misunderstand...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jul 2016

Nate has THREE models: "polls only" and "polls plus" which give Clinton a hire probability of winning, and a "NowCast" which projects that Trump would win IF THE ELECTION WAS HELD TODAY.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
9. I just pulled it up, as quoted in the other OP, and it shows Trump up on vote % and electoral votes
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jul 2016

This is the nowcast which is referenced in the other op and takes more than polling into account.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

still_one

(92,174 posts)
18. I agree. Salon has an extreme bias against Hillary, and I believe this was intentional on their
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:02 PM
Jul 2016

part.

You post of course was a DIRECT LINK to Nate Silver's site

Thanks Squinch

Response to Squinch (Original post)

still_one

(92,174 posts)
22. Here is Silver's Twitter page, and his Poll+ reverse the Salon numbers
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jul 2016
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I am not sure if I agree with his analysis completely, however, I think waiting until the Convention is over, and the campaign starts to swing into action is right on.

As is typical of Salon, they will of course put emphasis on the negative if it is in regard to Hillary, and then mention the polls+


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