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heresAthingdotcom

(160 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 06:55 PM Jul 2016

Someone help me out... What is TPP and why is it bad....

I googled and I really don't understand 1. what tpp is and 2. why should I oppose.... I know it's a trade agreement between America and other countries... and I guessing it will benefit business more the worker..

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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
1. no one on DU will really be able to give you enough unbiased information about TPP
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jul 2016

i would google it and google what economists have to say about it.

I take the Paul Krugman view of it, but there are plenty of arguments pro and con

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
2. TPP: Trans Pacific Partnership.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jul 2016

A free trade agreement that is, well, trans-Pacific, involving countries in the Americas and in Asia.

Depending on who you ask it is either:
-- A big corporate giveaway that will ship American jobs overseas to sweatshops and destroy our national sovereignty
-- An essential counterweight to the growing influence of China, and a key step towards in ensuring our continued economic competitiveness

Which one is up to you to decide.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
3. AFL-CIO: "Ten Critical Problems with the Trans-Pacific Partnership"
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jul 2016

The AFL-CIO has done a good job of outlining the major concerns with the TPP that need to be addressed. It's a good place to start.

Ten Critical Problems with the Trans-Pacific Partnership


The TPP allows currency-manipulating countries to kill U.S. jobs.
The current TPP text doesn’t contain enforceable currency manipulation rules. Countries that intentionally devalue their currency cheat U.S. manufacturers and undermine any benefits from tariff reductions. Enforcing currency manipulation rules is probably the single most effective thing the United States could do to create jobs; in fact, doing so could add as many as 5.8 million jobs.1

The TPP lets foreign corporations bypass U.S. law.

The current TPP text allows multinational companies to challenge U.S. laws, regulations and safeguards through a provision called investor-to-state dispute settlement (ISDS), a private justice system that undermines our democracy. Through ISDS, foreign investors can seek compensation from the United States for enforcing regulations and safeguards designed to protect America’s working families. In fact, multinational companies currently are using ISDS to attack democratic policies and laws in Australia, Canada, Egypt, Peru and Uruguay, among many others.

The TPP allows climate change to go unchecked.

The current TPP text doesn’t contain any enforceable climate change commitments or “border fees” to offset the cost of environment-damaging imports. This undermines our efforts to address climate change and jeopardizes the important U.S.-China bilateral agreement on climate change and clean energy.2 It does nothing to discourage U.S. manufacturers from moving their factories to TPP countries with weak climate regulations. This damages both U.S. jobs and our efforts to address climate change.

The TPP doesn’t strengthen international labor rights protections.
There are extensive, well-documented labor problems in at least four TPP countries (Mexico, Vietnam, Brunei and Malaysia)3 but the administration has not committed to requiring all countries to be in full compliance with international labor standards before they get benefits under the agreement. Worker rights obligations have never been fully enforced under existing free trade agreements, which have provided too much discretion for worker complaints to be delayed for years or indefinitely (e.g., Honduras, Guatemala). A progressive TPP would eliminate this shortcoming, not repeat it. Given that no administration has ever self-initiated labor enforcement under a free trade agreement, any promise to “strongly enforce” the TPP should be met with skepticism...

Read all ten reasons here:
http://www.aflcio.org/Issues/Trade/Trans-Pacific-Partnership-Free-Trade-Agreement-TPP/Ten-Critical-Problems-with-the-Trans-Pacific-Partnership

msongs

(67,395 posts)
4. here's an example..the "made in hawaii" festival features things...made in hawaii as a showcase.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jul 2016

with TPP foreign countries and international corporations can shut down that event because is discriminates against not made in hawaii.
and they can sue for damages, loss of income, and who knows what else

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
5. Here is why the Sierra Club thinks it would be a disaster for climate change:
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jul 2016
https://www.sierraclub.org/sites/www.sierraclub.org/files/uploads-wysiwig/dirty-deal.pdf

People who oppose it on environmental grounds believe they are fighting for our very survival.
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