Why Sanders Hold Outs are a Problem for Clinton

[DonViejo]

July 25, 2016 By Taegan Goddard

“New data and analysis shared with FiveThirtyEight from Catalist and SurveyMonkey shows that, before the 2016 primaries, Sanders’s supporters voted less frequently than other 2016 voters, and they were less reliably Democratic than Clinton supporters. In other words, it’s not a matter of Clinton simply coaxing Sanders supporters back into the fold — many were never in the fold to begin with. That could increase the difficulty of the task facing Clinton.”


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https://politicalwire.com/2016/07/25/why-sanders-hold-outs-are-a-problem-for-clinton/

[leftofcool]

1. No, they are not a problem

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

2. Nope! Because there are many more reliable voters than there are not.

[DinahMoeHum]

3. Fuck the "hold-outs". They're not Clinton's problem anymore. . .

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. . .if, it is said, nearly 90% of the Sanders delegates/supporters/voters will vote for her.

She and Kaine will now go after the independent voters and the disaffected among the Republicans who are disgusted with TrumpleThinSkin.

[OnDoutside]

7. Great post! The only problem is to get them out of the Convention Center without causing more issues

[Demsrule86]

15. Pull their credentials before Hillary takes the stage.

I have put up with Hillary being treated disrespectfully too long...toss them out.

[OnDoutside]

24. Yes, that's the fear i have too.

[aikoaiko]

8. independent voters and the disaffected among the Republicans" comprised much of the Bernie holdouts.

[rjsquirrel]

13. Neither of whom belongs

at a democratic convention.

[aikoaiko]

17. They most certainly belong there according to DNC rules.

Maybe not for rjsquirrel rules, but by DNC rules.

[rjsquirrel]

19. We can make the rules

for our party. I was speaking prospectively of the importance of going to a completely closed primary system.

[aikoaiko]

20. True. I think closed primaries would be bad for the Democratic party by forcing people

into third party camps or get behind moderate republicans.

The solution to the problems of diversity is not to force homogeneity.

[rjsquirrel]

21. It would be good for third parties

Force people to make a choice in advance rather than be guided by momentary emotions.

We have plenty of heterogeneity without the left version of the tea party. As with the republicans, giving your radical fringe voices more say than your reliable rank and file base voters (working class and minority voters) is a recipe for disaster.

Trump is the outcome of rational republicans tolerating the tea party insurgency out of cynicism.

Some kinds of diversity are not good. Bending our party's culture in the direction of the campus left has lost us many elections in my lifetime.

[DinahMoeHum]

16. I was referring to those folks NOT AT THE CONVENTION. . .

. . .and I don't mean the ones participating in those side-show street demonstrations, either.

I meant those voters who are home, who are watching this convention on TV/livestream, etc who, while they may be disgusted at TrumpleThinSkin, still can't bring themselves to pull the lever for Hillary.

Those are the ones Clinton and Kaine will be courting when they go on the road with their show.

[aikoaiko]

18. That's who I'm talking about, too.

[BobbyDrake]

6. In defense of babies, they actually stop crying when they get what they want. nt

[rjsquirrel]

12. Mentally unstable is right

Their parents raised them on Prozac and adderall and gave them prizes for getting out of bed. They are privileged young white people, for the most part college educated or in college now.

[BobbyDrake]

5. "It's my first election, so give me what I want or I'm going to hold my breath until I pass out!"

Here's a pillow to land on, kids. Don't hurt yourselves now.

[C_U_L8R]

10. I feel a bit sorry for them

They're being played like a fiddle.
I trust they'll figure that out sooner or later.
Besides we're a team... And you don't get no
trophy until you win. So as Michelle Obama
said, let's get to work.

[rjsquirrel]

11. They've been played like a fiddle for generations

A reliable fool in the American political comedy.

[Demsrule86]

14. My feeling is many of them are not voting which is why

you had big rallies but fewer votes for Sanders...thus we won't miss them...never had them. I doubt they will even vote for Green asshat Jill Stein or Comrade Heil Trump.

[NCTraveler]

22. Sanders supporters are in large on board.

That stench you are smelling isn't coming from Sanders supporters. It's coming from privileged little twits banking off mommy and daddy's bank account while thinking they are a disadvantaged class.

[timlot]

23. So the Obama coalition that propelled him 08' and 2012 with 8% unemployment and...

the attacks in Benghazi 2 months before the election has disappeared? Not buying it. Some young voters, like the young lady on MSNBC last night with the Bernie tattoo, will be harder to get to because Bernie to them is almost like a cult leader. Where its become less about the message Bernie is talking about (most of which Hillary as adopted) and more about some bazaar idolization of the man.