The Latest: Sarandon Waits to Be Convinced to Back Clinton

[Eugene]

Source: Associated Press

The Latest: Sarandon Waits to Be Convinced to Back Clinton

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS PHILADELPHIA — Jul 26, 2016, 7:03 AM ET

The Latest on the Democratic National Convention (all times local):

6:25 a.m.

Susan Sarandon says she's waiting to be persuaded to support Hillary Clinton before giving her vote.

The actress is attending the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia and has been taking part in demonstrations with various groups.

Sarandon has been an outspoken supporter of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. In an interview with left-leaning website Democracy Now, she says she wants to see what Clinton's plans for are on issues such as fracking and the Trans-Pacific Partnership. She says she wants to be "convinced" by the likely Democratic nominee.

In a separate interview with left-wing online network, The Young Turks, Sarandon calls the leaked e-mails that show the Democratic National Committee and chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz strongly backing Clinton for the party bid, "disgusting." But she adds, "it doesn't come as a surprise."

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[leftofcool]

1. Naderite says what?

[merrily]

8. I believe she says the info in the leaked emails was disgusting, but no surprise.

So, not all that different from what most people are saying about them.

[Hortensis]

74. Yes, some people were less highly principled than

we are here, for sure. But Sarandon's become awfully predictable. Wonder what forum she picked this "woo me" schtick up from? For all we know, maybe she hangs here.

I can't imagine signaling the world I can be placated with some schmoozing and an apology. If I was going to demand, it wouldn't be stroking my hurt feelings, it'd be specific: "If you want MY vote, contract to hang the Kochs up by their feet and shake them down, then deposit them in jail."

[merrily]

75. With enough exposure, each of us is awfully predictable, including you, me and Hillary.

Let's be real. It's about which candidate Sarandon supported and which she is opposing.

On the other hand, I don't know how any candidate woos anyone who doesn't trust or believe him or her--and Trump and Hillary both have that issue.

I am a Sanders supporter (surprise!), but I, too, thought Sarandon could have chosen her words better on that one.

That said, what a celebrity says about a candidate doesn't affect my voting choices. They have a much bigger megaphone than I do, but that is not because they are political geniuses. It's fun when they say nice things or insightful things and pretty much irrelevant when they don't.

Sarandon is a beautiful, older woman and a good actress. She is also intelligent and I believe her intentions have always been good. My admiration for her outside that realm began when she spent her own money to make a TV commercial against invading Iraq, when our war drums started beating and before the vote.

There is so much important stuff that is off the rails. That Sarandon is not in love with Hillary is not important, nor does it make her a bad person. Plenty of other celebrities are. Seems to me having fun with what they say would be more fun that dissecting what Sarandon says. Your candidate is the nominee. Enjoy.

[tonedevil]

77. +100 /nt

[Hortensis]

86. Well, if a person is right, or right enough,

in his or her beliefs, why can't the truth that matters to that person about each issue be sufficient explanation?

I think soaking up proven lies in order to vilify someone who disagrees with one's views is an indicator of major character flaws. But that's hardly a new insight.

Bearing false witness against others is actually listed as one of Christianity's 10 deadly sins, and no doubt right up there in the other major religions also. But, hey, can't really be so wrong if EVERYBODY does it, right?

Well, everybody doesn't do it.

[merrily]

88. Sorry. You're on your own.

Life is too short to keep obsess over a poor choice of words by a show biz celebrity, no matter whose candidate was involved.

[Hortensis]

90. :) Ultimately,

we're all on our own, aren't we? "But everyone did it!"

[merrily]

91. Hopefully, during life, not unless we want we want to be on our own.

Strong support systems have been shown to help people live longer. (I don't recall if the study considered fellow posters and facebook friends a support system, even if they can't bring you chicken soup when you have the flu, but that would be interesting to know.)

After life as we know it, who knows?

[Hortensis]

93. Now, come on, Merrily. Anger, resentment,

hostility, stress, intense frustration and fear from imagining the forces of evil always win -- these not only shorten lives but end up re-forming the faces of people who live that way.



Back to the topic, I'm fine with Sarandon's supposed positions on issues -- good that she has some and cares about something. My big problem with her, a former major favorite, is that knowing this about her makes me unable to watch her movies without memories of her mean and dishonest idiocy getting in the way.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

100. Ok Princess Susan. Do we need to do EVERYTHING you say and then you MIGHT think about

gracing us with your support?? Attention-seeking ........

[Hortensis]

104. Given how great our platform is, that seems

possible. When people can't be pleased, you do start wondering what their real, or at least other, agenda is. My general experience is the more (seemingly) unreasonably passionate people are the less likely they are to know themselves.

[stopbush]

2. Yawn.

I wouldn't waste any time or energy on that one.

[sarae]

20. +10

I didn't realize Sarandon's vote was so precious.

It counts far more than the vote of a common person.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

33. SS is a highly respected progressive... it would be good for Hillary to get her endorsement.

[leftofcool]

37. She has never endorsed a Democrat. She supported Nader

Hillary does NOT need her endorsement.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

38. Not sayin Hillary needs SS's endorsement... just that it would be good if she got it.

[LoverOfLiberty]

72. I'm not sure what Hillary could do to get it

most holdouts now simply don't believe that Clinton has adopted the platform she has. I suppose there is always 2020.

[Cha]

40. She supported John Edwards

[leftofcool]

45. So she said

[MelSC]

97. Well John Edwards is a horrible person...

Susan S is a bad judge of character.

[Cha]

98. That's in essence what I was saying. "John Edwards" speaks for itself unfortunately.

[leftynyc]

43. Respected by whom?

I doubt Hillary is giving one second's thought to someone who needs to be convinced that Hillary is better than don the con. Anyone with a brain already knows that. For the record, I have NO respect for anyone that voted for nader.

[lunamagica]

65. Look at her history...her endorsement is the kiss of death

And she's nothing but a dilettante who plays at being a "progressive" between movies

[Cha]

99. LOL!

[obamanut2012]

112. She endorsed Edwards -- he sponsored the frigging Invasion of Iraq

[yeoman6987]

36. She's closer then before. She's more open to at least maybe supporting

This election will be about turn out. That's number 1.

[avaistheone1]

3. Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't.

Oh well...

[rjsquirrel]

7. Pretty much

Damn her. Does anyone care what a washed up movie star limousine Marxist thinks?

[avaistheone1]

30. Some people do.

Careful now...washed up is in the eye of the beholder.

[rjsquirrel]

32. Washed up as in

name her last major role in a hit movie.

[avaistheone1]

39. I see so now you are siding with the sexism, ageism and misogyny of the film industry towards

mature women.

BTW
She is still very active in films:

2015 The Meddler Marnie Minervini
2015 About Ray Dolly
2015 Kid Witness Detective Dottie Wheel
2015 The Other Side of the Lake the Purple Girl
2016 Mothers and Daughters Millie
TBA The Death and Life of John F. Donovan Grace Donovan Filming

[rjsquirrel]

42. Hardly

And I've never heard of any of those films.

[LanternWaste]

69. The important thing is you've never heard of them. Critical though at its finest!

The important thing is you've never heard of them. Critical though at its finest!

[rjsquirrel]

71. The important thing is never to repeat yourself

without proofreading.

My distaste for Sarandon is completely political. I have no opinion of her acting abilities other than to note that even her famous roles are in relatively minor films, and she hasn't been in anything commercially prominent in recent years.

Why she is washed up and just how washed up she may be are irrelevant to the point that her stardom doesn't make her a particularly credible political voice.

She lives a completely luxurious 1% life. She faces no real consequences if Trump prevails. Her arrogant claim to speak for the oppressed is belied by her petulant self-aggrandizing media presence.

Supporters like her hurt Bernie Sanders in the primary more than they helped. Her support is certainly irrelevant to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. Might even be good for Hillary to piss off a few prominent leftist loony birds like her.

[RoBear]

60. Is that list for real???

Makes Rocky Horror look like Shakespeare, doesn't it???

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. I do... love SS!

[LanternWaste]

68. Seems rational and objective to presume any and all commenting on this thread cares enough

Seems rational and objective to presume any and all commenting on this thread cares enough to comment on her thoughts, despite the tortured justifications coming shortly.

But the most important thing is your petulance in assigning pejoratives to someone who holds a different opinion than you, much as my nine year old nephew does.

I empathize.

[JCanete]

116. limousine marxist? What's good for the GOP is good for the democratic party these days?

I mean damn, that's using their language and not even re-appropriating it.

[rjsquirrel]

118. Because it's literally true

So I stand by it.


She travels around Manhattan from opening to fashion show in a limousine, yet believes in some idiotic "revolution" bulllshit.

[JCanete]

119. might as well be any republican saying "if you want to tax the wealthy so bad why

don't you just give away your money?" Its a really convenient way of attacking the person rather than the message, so congrats for that intellectual contribution.

[rjsquirrel]

121. Lol whut?

Sarandon is a rich woman who travels by limousine. She is also a play-Marxist who spouts radical doctrine in fine cashmere.

She is a limousine Marxist. She's a hypocrite. What I said had nothing *whatsoever* to do with taxes, although if she's such a radical you'd think she'd give away some of the limo and cashmere money.

You might as well be a republican, because you twist words and impute meanings to win arguments. Pffft.

Susan Sarandon is a creep. She has said she'll vote for Trump. She and her fellow limousine radicals like Cornell West (makes half a million a year giving speeches) actually harmed Bernie Sanders because most democratic voters could look at supporters like that and see they were rank hypocrites.

Good day.

[JCanete]

122. I thought she said she would never vote for Trump. And no I'm not twisting your words.

I'm using what is a damn fair example. Limousine liberal is exactly a term out of the Republican lexicon and you changing it to Marxist is keeping it in the same ballpark. Every rich person who has ever advocated for higher taxes has been pilloried by the right, for being hypocrites who aren't serious unless they just voluntarily give more of their money to the state. The point was not that you were talking about taxes, and holy shit that you would even miss something so obvious. The point was that you are doing the same thing by trashing Sarandon for having socialist leanings while being rich, as if that in itself proves her a hypocrite. That you can't see it is pretty astonishing. Hell, give some credit where credit is due.

[Peacetrain]

4. . its okay Susan..

I think that is one vote we can skip.

[rjsquirrel]

5. Lol who?

At this point I think it's better for Hillary if Ms. Sarandon endorses the ghost of Hugo Chavez and stops the play acting. Cashmere-clad Leninist wannabe airhead can get lost. Jill Stein deserves her and Cornell West, two people who are far more in love with themselves than with any cause.

[Arkansas Granny]

6. Her vote is her choice. I think most of Bernie's supporters will vote for Hillary, in the end,

but there are some who will not. I just hope they don't vote for Trump.

[rjsquirrel]

19. That would be pretty stupid of them, no?

Ms. Sarandon is the queen of the stupid set. However, as a rich white lady who gets chauffeured around to fashion shows and radical rallies alike and who sent her kids to the best private schools, she likely stands to do very well under a President Trump (lower taxes on her millions for sure), or at least not to suffer much. She's far to useful an idiot for him to send her to Guantanamo anyway.

If you can vote for Trump out of spite or rage at the imperfections of the Democratic Party, you either are voting your actual interest (you're white and privileged, in other words) or you were never going to vote for a democrat not named Bernie, or you're an idiot or a person who lets emotion trump reason, both categories of voters I submit we are better off without and never had in the first place anyway.

The ideologically motivated far left has sabotaged the Democratic Party over and over for decades.

[sarae]

22. But Sarandon said a vote for Trump will bring a "revolution".

The rich white starlet forgot to mention that she can jet off to live in another country while we're the ones who would have to suffer under a Trump presidency.

[Arkansas Granny]

28. Well, she's probably right about that, but I don't think it would bring the results she wants.

[joeybee12]

9. Ah, how cute, she thinks she matters!

Stick it acting, one day you may learn how to do it.

[unitedwethrive]

120. Ha!

[Orsino]

10. That honestly sounds like the nicest she's been.

I wouldn't blame her for holding out, but she's been nasty.

[MineralMan]

11. Has-been actor holds forth about election.

[stonecutter357]

12. Susan Sarandon is a disgusting person.

Pretty baby is prime example of Susan Sarandon being a disgusting person.

[bigwillq]

13. That's fine.

She has that right. I find it fascinating how much some care about what a celebrity thinks or who that celebrity votes for or doesn't. I don't spend much time worrying about Susan Sarandon. Great actress, imo, though.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. Aww bless her heart.

[bettyellen]

48. I'm sort of surprised how upset she looked last night....

How in the world would any intelligent person not be totally prepared for what was coming? What did she think would happen?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

51. the saddest thing that has happened to her recently is that her primary candidate lost

it must be nice to live in such a world.

[bettyellen]

52. It reminded me of those very young girls the interviewed last night!

They've followed politics for an entire year and are upset a two lotion did not come of it!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

56. there was a girl who was literally sobbing, and my friend who campaigned for SAnders

could not get over this. Her point was, how easy is your life if this is something you can sob over? not tear up, which is perfectly normal, literally sob on national television.

[bettyellen]

61. It's nice they care but a bit insulting they don't know or care about the

Many years of hard work people have been doing to better this country. They literally think their issues just started the moment they noticed them?
Voter disenfranchisement? It's happening mostly to HRCs voters and the GOP is behind it. But that's not sexy enough. Ugh. The ignorance

[JI7]

78. some complained about sanders speaking last and having to sit through other people speaking

first of all , going last means you are THE main speaker for the day. it shows how much respect they have for him to be given that slot .

and then they said some other things which showed they were not informed at all.

and tonight while the mothers who lost their kids were speaking they walked out and held a candlelight vigil for themselves for how the democrats treated them horribly .

[bettyellen]

96. Didn't hear about the vigil but wow. Such self centered behavior

[NCTraveler]

15. We accept Naderite votes.

I'm glad she is stating publicly she is open to voting for Clinton.

[NurseJackie]

16. Who? And..

... who cares? Seriously ... Who the fuck cares what she thinks? She's a kook.

I wonder if she knows that John Edwards, whom she supported, also voted for the IWR. Why didn't it matter then? Why did it only matter when it comes to Hillary?

She's just another single minded, rabid and irrational Hillary Hater.

[yuiyoshida]

17. She would be stupid to vote for Trump

and she is not stupid. Eventually she will have to decide who is best, Jill Stein or Hillary. Jill Stein will never win enough votes to beat the top pick. That leaves one left.

[JaneQPublic]

18. And while she's waiting...

...she can also wait until someone gives a damn.

[revmclaren]

21. Sarandon needs to convince ME why I should care

what a washed-up Naderite thinks. Way too many people slinking out of the fading spotlight trying to grab the last fleeting crumbs of importance before they are relegated to the ranks of the unimportant.

[Cha]

41. There ya go!

[sufrommich]

23. Meh,who cares? She's a joke. nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

24. Who gives a fuck about Susan Sarandon!

[katsy]

25. Easy peasy HRC can do this

We are awesome & our party will grow stronger with every grumpy pants we convert yay!!!!

[Yavin4]

26. She's registered in NYC. Her vote won't matter.

Hillary won her neighborhood by double digits over Bernie in the primary.

[carburyme]

46. There you go!

She won't matter either way!

[Peigan68]

27. She voted for Nader in 2000

Enough said.

[DinahMoeHum]

29. WTF - when did she become the center of the universe?

[Lil Missy]

31. Stay home Susan. You're not that importanat. n/t

[giftedgirl77]

34. Lol, self entitled privileged princess needs to take a loonng

walk off a short bridge into lava.

[fun n serious]

44. Bye bye Susan

Lol...

[DemonGoddess]

47. She'll never be convinced

she's a Naderite.

[Politicub]

49. She's concerned, you see

She has so much to lose under a Clinton presidency, like...

Oh wait, no she doesn't. She's fine no matter what happens come November. Must be nice to feel that way - so secure and warm in a privileged cocoon. I am wholly unable to relate.

[Thrill]

50. If Trump isn't enough to convince her

nothing is

[DemonGoddess]

55. y'see

she wants Trump to bring Revolution

[tallahasseedem]

53. Who gives a shit about her?

NOT me!

[liberal N proud]

54. If she doesn't get it...

[ronnykmarshall]

113. I feel bad for the Thunderbird.

[Protalker]

57. Maybe talk over Trump with Palin

Perhaps while taking a drive in your convertible.

[One of the 99]

58. A rich priviledged white woman

who didn't suffer under the Bush presidency and won't under a Trump presidency.

[NaturalHigh]

59. She's desperately trying to seem relevant.

[OnDoutside]

62. The Train of Relevance is about to leave the station for Susie !

[BainsBane]

63. Who cares?

Who is she that we need to sit in wait for her vote?

[Sheepshank]

64. Good to know Trump et al already had her convinced...and it's apparently now Hillary's job

to re-convince her?

I wonder what Trump had to do to get her attention and her vote?

[workinclasszero]

66. She's a special little snowflake isn't she?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

67. It's not my job to cater to spoiled millionaires

She should stay as far away from Hillary's campaign as possible. She's a moron.

[Paladin]

73. +1000. Thank you. (nt)

[asiliveandbreathe]

76. Thats right - it's all about ME (susan) - get over yourselves..

I am more concerned about an effin Russian hack...

[LenaBaby61]

79. The Latest: Sarandon Waits to Be Convinced to Back Clinton.

My Susan Sarandon give-a-damn-o-meter:

1 ---------------------------------------------------10 HERE----------------------------------------->

[LiberalLovinLug]

80. She speaks for many Democrats

The degree of arrogant juvenile assholishness in this thread is disgusting. She is only asking what any Democrat with any kind of principles would ask of a candidate that has been contradictory and/or vague on a couple of important issues.

My gawd the hatred of the "liberal Hollywood elite" in here rivals the dregs of uneducated baggerville.

[Kali]

81. I agree with you.

We are going to have to convince a lot of voters, not just her. The kind of attitude displayed here is terrible and destructive. You don't get votes by saying fuck the voter - to any of them. So ugly!

[JaneyVee]

82. Shes running against Donald Trump.

[MFM008]

83. stick to Rocky Horror

its when I liked you.

[Lady_Chat]

84. LOL! I'm happier with Meryl Streep's support of Hillary and

Kerry Washington, Elizabeth Banks, Eva Longoria, Katy Perry, Julianne Moore, Alicia Keys, Uzo Aduba, America Ferrera, Ellen DeGeneres, Deborah Messing, Rosie Perez, Demi Lovato, and Lady Gaga, and that's just to name a few, and that's not even the guys!

[David__77]

85. I get what's she's saying about wanting to be convinced.

I can understand that.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

103. She should know her own mind and do her own research. I've never had to have someone to

convince me to vote for them. You either agree more with Hillaries and the Democrats issues, or Trumps or not really think it's that big of a deal who wins.

[David__77]

115. I get what you're saying too.

...

[BobbyDrake]

87. She certainly never gets this much attention for her acting any more. nt

[baldguy]

89. Why do I get the feel that she'll still need convincing on Jan 20?

The BoBs can go fuck themselves.

[renie408]

92. Sure she's not just waiting to be relevant again?? n/t

[Recursion]

94. She can go on waiting. I'm sick of special-snowflake-itis

I'm sure it's an agonizing decision for you, Ms. Sarandon. May you go with your conscience.

[Adrahil]

95. Meh. Who cares?

She, like many BoB's, are not thinking with their heads. They are making decisions emotionally. Like creationists and climate deniers, you can't convince them with facts, so don't try.

[kestrel91316]

101. I don't give a damn who that fool votes for. She only gets one vote.

[Lebam in LA]

102. who cares

[JCanete]

105. Good for her. I've moved to Clinton but she has every right to be dubious, and her perspective

is not uninformed. It would be a little higher level if people on these boards could discuss principled positions with a generous read as to the place they are coming from. You don't have to agree with everything Sarandon says, and you can believe she's flat out wrong, but as somebody who very publicly stood against Bush and the Iraq War, and has been on the right side of history more often than Clinton has, maybe people could try to remember the things they used to like about her.

Oh did she vote for Nader? Is this club only two moneyed parties and nobody else gets to play? You have reasons why she's wrong? Talk about those then and quit besmirching the fuck out of people. And yes, I've seen it on both sides, so Clinton fans aren't the only culprits.

[glennward]

106. I thought she was out? nt

[still_one]

107. No Susan, you shouldn't back Hillary. If you even have to ask that dumb assed question, you should

be supporting the only dumb assed candidate in that race, Trump

now go back to one of your million dollar estates that won't be affected by whoever is the next president, while the grown ups work for Hillary to defeat Trump

[obamanut2012]

108. I don't give a damn who she votes for

Let her write in Nader of Edwards again.

[SidDithers]

109. Two words...

Meryl Streep.

Sid

[Stuckinthebush]

110. I hope she has saved enough money

I'm betting her career has been seriously injured. The righties hate her and the Dems are disgusted with her. Her stock isn't exactly rising.

[DemonGoddess]

111. Her and any other speshul snowflake

who thinks we need to "sell" them on Hillary because they didn't get their way can go to hell.

[Blue Idaho]

114. She can wait until Hell Freezes over.

I have no time for self-indulgent movie stars.

[StevieM]

117. After Trump, Our Turn!

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/03/29/susan_sarandon_is_perfect_spokeswoman_for_neverhillary.html